struggling with handwriting

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  • lettucepatchkids
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    My older DD (who is almost 7) and can fully write, but struggles with proper formation and reversing some letters.  My younger DD (just turned 5) has never been required to write, she can write her name and wants to learn her letters, she will copy words, but again struggles with proper formation and she doesnt’ seem to retain what a letter looks like. 

    After much reading and debating back and forth I decided to go ahead and start working through Cursive First with each of them.  My ODD complains to no end about doing handwriting, and always goes back to print (w/o proper formation and letter reversing) when doing copywork or any other writing. She can form the letters and make them look ok.  My YDD tolorates the cursive first lessons but REALLY struggles with formation, and when she does copy words it’s into print.

    Is this struggle normal for cursive?  I chose to run with it because of all I had read about cursive being EASIER to master… but my kids seem to be proving this wrong. Is print just easier for some kids?  Will it damage their handwriting for life to start with print and move to cursive (just kidding lol).  Is this something I should just stick out… or switch to printing?  And then what printing program do I get?  I take it simply doing copywork is not enough to learn proper letter formation?

    Anyone have handwriting encouragement for me? 🙂

     

    Heather

    sheraz
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    http://simplycharlottemason.com/planning/scmguide/copywork/ – I think that you saw this from your post, just making sure you have. 

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/copywork-handwriting-instruction – This one looks like it will help…

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/printing-stuggles

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/handwriting-struggles

    You are not alone in this =)  We all have some of these issues…  Good luck!

    4myboys
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    No, I don’t think copywork is the place to begin when teaching proper letter formation.  I belive that should be reserved for later, after all the letters have been learned correctly.  I do not know anything about the cursive first program.  Does it group letters based on the strokes used to form them, or alphabetically?  I prefer the grouping method, it is much easier to start with letters requirely simple basic strokes. 

    I do not think that it is unusual for a young child to return to, or prefer printing over cursive at all. The vast majority of printed material our children encounter daily is printed — in story books, on computers, newspapers, billboards, sales flyers, TV ads, signs in shops, on buses, company vehicles, etc. Face it — unless they are reading a letter from Grandma, odds are it will be printed — and odds are good Grandma will print too, because she will expect that to be much easier for your children to read (which it definately is).  Yes, handwriting is pretty and quicker, and feels more natural, but it may be harder for your children to connect with because they don’t yet see the relevance. 

    I am homeschooling our two boys for the first time beginning in September.  My older son has been in the PS system for 5 years and can still barely print.  Now, he does have dysgraophia, but I feel the biggest issue is that they were never properly instructed in letter formation.  Even his ocupational therapist has just allowed him to do a modified version going for legibility — he still returns to the ball and stick letters out of habit.  This has left me with a dilema of my own — do I start at the beginning and teach my nearly 11 year-old son basic printing.  I am considering using the Getty-Dubay Italics as it moves very smootly into Italic cursive by telling smooth joins of the letters.  It is very smooth and natural, looks beautiful and is much easier to read than loopy forms of cursive. 

    lettucepatchkids
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    Thanks for the links! I’ve not read all of those articles yet! Smile

     

    So basically just keep on plugging away?  and yes, Cursive First groups letters by strokes not by the alphabet… big reason I went with it.

    lettucepatchkids
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    oh my goodness so after reading through those threads that were linked I am checking out Peterson Directed Handwriting… WOW that looks so good…. such clear instruction (I think this is where i’m REALLY floundering)

    maybe i need to just switch curriculums?

    suzukimom
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    I switched from cursive first, and moved to the Peterson directed handwriting (their cursive first option) and love it…. but my son still does an (unlearned) print when not doing copywork…..    but his copywork looks pretty good.

    lettucepatchkids
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    so suzukimom…. so is their cursive first option the sample download on their site? that is what i’m really liking the looks of, but can’t find a buy option..  I’m a bit confused… what did you use after he finished that?

    suzukimom
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    We did the Cursive Step 2 workbook (ebook)

     http://www.peterson-handwriting.com/By_Hand_Books/Cursive_Step_2_Rev.pdf

    that is partway down this page…

    http://www.peterson-handwriting.com/products/E-Workbooks.html

    you buy it from the store page (you can look at the whole book from the sample… but can’t print…)  

    http://shop.peterson-handwriting.com/category.sc;jsessionid=7A8BE0E26477F2C14239A18D109674B0.qscstrfrnt03?categoryId=19

    I also got the position guide

    http://shop.peterson-handwriting.com/category.sc?categoryId=6

     

    That is all I’ve done with him, and copywork.

    I am debating using the Grade 3 wordmaster with him next year, or doing the Step 3 with him to work on improvement.  The grade 3 masters would help get him writing more fluently, which should help him write when doing things that are not copywork.  I talked to them on the phone to, and they gave me suggestions for doing something similar without buying the wordmasters or step 3…. by looking at his writing in his other work to find words he is struggling with, and working with those words…. (they seemed to have a hard time understanding that we weren’t doing spelling tests (their first suggestions to get words to work on) or much writing at all…..

    [I used the “Cursive First” program with him for most of grade 1, and was having issues…. so near the end of last year we moved to Peterson Directed, and did that for a month of last year, and then for this year.  After we did it, we did copywork most of the days of the week, and when I saw him having problems with a letter, we reviewed the page for that letter.  So in a week we would do copywork 3 days a week, and worked on letter improvement 1 day of the week.)

    suzukimom
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    Oh, just thought I’d mention… I have Step 1 as well (for use with my daughter…) – it doesn’t say what order to do the letters etc in step 1, so you can use it with a reading program.  Step 2 (or above) does them in a “shape” order…. ie, based on the strokes being used.   But it is handy to have Step 1 for finger tracing practice before actually writing the letter…..  as it has the letters nice and big.    (However, I don’t like the practice sheets in Step 1, as it has the capital letters and small letters on the same practice sheet.  ugh!)

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