Sleep Overs

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  • Misty
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    OK so I know this is a very personal thing and I might get more confused by reading your replys Laughing but I think right now I need to ask.

    So my 10 yr old son was just invited to his 1st sleep over.  I have NO issues with the family he’ll be with they are wonderful, Christ centered and I know there will be prayers and devotions as part of the night.  They’ll be sleeping in a tent and roasting marshmellows.

    So why am I so hesitant to let him go?  I want to hold them close forever and not let them go until they have a sutable mate!  Is that so wrong with a mom? 

    For those who have done this how did you do it?  I know my dh will say YES let him go, he’s very worldly when it comes to these things and he don’t think twice, me on the other hand I’ll hum and hahhh untill I figure out something.  Of any family I know this is the one I really know my child will be safe with.  Words of encouragement appreciated!  Misty

    art
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    I am so glad this didn’t come up when my son was young, and it hasn’t com up with the others either. I would not have been able to let him go. But I wanted to say that it won’t always feel this way. I never thought I’d let them do ANYTHING, but next month, my 16 year old will be going on a high adventure 6 hours away with boys and leaders from church. They will spend 5 days rafting, rock climbing, caving, etc. I’m glad I can finally let him do these kinds of things, but I wouldn’t have wanted it sooner.

    I told my husband the other day, I’m surprised how easy it is to let him drive off somewhere now that he has his license (he is almost 17). I though I’d worry myself sick, but I don’t. I can’t guarantee what my worry level will be next month, but I feel like he can go.

    Good luck with your decision–you’ll know what is best for your son.

    suzukimom
    Participant

    Hm – as my son will be doing scouting (and cubbing), I imagine I will be letting him go to scout/cub camps once he is 8…  (In Canada, Cubs Camp.)   (Right now my son is almost 7)   So if it was having a sleepover at a family’s house where I trusted the family, I probably wouldn’t have a problem with it.   That said, it hasn’t come up yet except for sleeping at his nephew’s (and sister’s) house.

    meagan
    Participant

    Our boys (14, 11, and 10) LOVE sleepovers.  We only let them go as if we know and trust the family.  That is HUGE.  If we do, I we have no real problems with it.  They have fun and it was a part of growing up that I loved.  We do, however, try to encourage them to have more sleepovers at our house.  That way, they can still have fun with kids whose families we may not know very well, and even those we know and trust, it’s still nice to have them in your home. 

    Linabean
    Participant

    After having been sick for a long time and physically incapable of taking care of my household, I have had to learn to let go of my children and let them go where God would have them go.  It is wrong and even a sin to try to control everything in our paths ( that’s God jobSmile).  I don’t let my kids go off and do all sorts of things without me but I have learned to not even think about opportunities for them before I have prayed about it.  Does God have something extra special that he wants to teach your child?  Does He have a lesson for your son that is best learned away from you?  Sometimes our kids will become to dependant on us and think that being dependant on God is not necessary…their parents are doing all the work for them.  However, sometimes God calls us ( yes even the littlest of us) to do things or go places where you are required to be more dependant on Him and less on others.  Really we are suppossed to be relying on him all the time and never on ourselves or on others.  I would very prayerfully consider this and try to hear the answer that God truly has for you and your son.  Don’t confuse your responsibility to bring up your children with taking control of our kids out of God’s hands. 

      This has been a very painful lesson for me to learn.  I am still learning in fact.  I CAN NOT do a better job than God.  He has entrusted these children into my care but they are still His.  I would say that if the decision we are making for our children is done out of fear then it is probably not what God has for us or our children.  Because God done not EVER want us to take the path that fear would lead us down.  Perfect love casts out all fear, so ask God what He has for your son and for you and then let His perfect love come in and take away your fear.  He may just have something absolutly wonderful to share with your son and yourself.  I now ask God for his guidance and for answers to ALL of the decisions I have to make for our kids. 

      I hope that I did not offend.  I really am just trying to share from my own experience and the lessons that God has been teaching me this past year.  They have all been real doozies!  I didn’t think I could survive it! But so far I have and my kids have been incredibly blessed because of it, esspecially my oldest who was really starting to suffer from fear and anxiety. 

      Hope that helps and doesn’t offend. 

       -Miranda

    Misty
    Participant

    I appreciate EACH and everyones points.  No one has offended me in any way and everyone gave me a little something to think about.

    I did sleepovers when I was little but things were very different for me than they are for my children. (single mom worked nights)  I know that with prayer and time alone this weekend I will find peace in a decision for my son.  Thanks again everyone.  Misty

    Rebekahy
    Participant

    Misty – I understand your hesitation.  My girls are still little and I haven’t talked to my husband much about it, but I talked with my VERY good friend whose daughter was/is (we live far away now) my daughter’s best friend.  What we came up with, was that it might be better to make a “no spend the night rule” valid for EVERYONE, whether or not we trusted the family that invited them, this way, when they recieved an invite from a family we weren’t so sure about we wouldn’t have to give an explanation as to why not such and such a family, when so and so a family was ok.  Of course, exceptions to this rule exist as we live in a brand new place with NO family near and expecting a baby.  So that might necessitate an overnight, if we are not able to have a sitter come to our home.  Also, even WITH a family you trust – is it really necessary for a child to spend the night?  In my experience growing up – children stay up too late and the effects are felt for many days (I often came home and got sick from stressing my immune system).  And it may be different with boys, but if it’s an actual slumber party with multiple children, even Christian children – with girls, someone was always the “outsider” and there was lots of pressure to play “harmless” tricks on the first one asleep.  So, while I might let my girls attend a sleep over party – I’ll plan on picking them up at some point during the evening (10pm??) as opposed to letting them stay all night.  Hope that’s helpful!

    Rebekah

    missceegee
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    I don’t wish to put a damper on this conversation, but…

    I enjoyed sleep overs as a child and not always with families my parents knew well. However, I am MUCH MUCH more cautious with my kids. I loved sleepovers, but it was while sleeping over at a relative’s house that I was abused by a cousin, at a close family friend’s house that I was abused by her older brother and in my own bed that I was abused by an uncle. These were people my parents knew well & trusted, but that trust was misplaced. I never told my parents about the abuse and have dealt with it as an adult, but make no mistake the consequences of these events were far reaching and very negative. I am thankful to have dealt with the issues that resulted from the abuse and I praise God that he has redeemed me!

    Unfortunately, the statistics are horrible regarding sexual abuse and kids. 1 out of 4 girls and 1 out of 6 boys will be sexually abused by age 18 and 85 – 90% of the time it is by someone they know!

    Please don’t make the assumption that because you trust someone that they are always deserving of that trust. Trust your intuition and that of your children!

    I agree with Miranda regarding holding our kids too tightly, but because of my experience and knowledge of abuse I will always err on the side of extreme caution.

    I liken my kids to precious gifts that God has placed into my hands. It is my job to train them, love them, and protect them all while holding them in my open, outstretched hands to God. They are His and he’s given them to me for a time, but I will do everything I can to protect them from what I went through as a child. I do not do this because of fear, but rather because of love.

    There are times that God saves us out of something and times that He saves us from something. I know that all of us would prefer He save our kids from abuse. He can redeem any situation, that is true, but I pray that none of our kids will have to suffer because of sexual abuse.

    Now, I’m not saying I would never allow my kids to sleep over anywhere. They have done so with grandparents (my husband’s parents) and with one aunt & uncle, but if they call, I will pick them up instantly and I’m completely fine if they never want to sleep at a friend’s home or go to sleep-away camp. It would be with much prayer that I would even consider it. 

    There are 2 very practical books that I like that deal with keeping our children safe without locking them in a padded room.

    1. Protecting the Gift: Keeping Children and Teenagers Safe (and Parents Sane) by Gavin de Becker
    2. The Safe Child Book: A Commonsense Approach to Protecting Children and Teaching Children to Protect Themselves by Sheryll Kraizer

    Both of these books are excellent in that they show how to teach our kids to protect themselves and alleviate our unwarranted fears while trusting our instincts instead of always being politically correct & nice. More people fear a stranger kidnapping their child than a friend or relative abusing them, this is misguided and not helpful to our kids.

    I know that I’ve steered this thread off course from the original question and I don’t share my story often, but I’ve come to really feel like you ladies are close friends and I would never want any of you to have to deal with this issue. 

    Resting in Him,

    Christie

    Linabean
    Participant

    Christie,  I just wanted to say thank you for being so open.  I believe God can use your story to help others a great deal!

      I also think that you are showing great faith and trust in God by NOT locking your kids in a padded room!  I appreciate that you pray for guidance and direction before you make your decisions to send your kids out.  I do the same thing for the same reasons as you.

      I had not allowed any of my children to have sleepovers anywhere before getting sick, which is why it was so painful to me to have that choice taken away from me when I was.  I have been going through counceling for fear issues recently and have learned a lot and have just recently taken a huge step with my oldest daughter.  Of coarse this was preceded by prayer from my husband and I and also “talks” with my daughter.  I am pleased to say that God DID have something wonderful for her and I am so thankful that He taught me to pray and trust the answer about these things.  She would have missed out on a BIG blessing had I allowed my fear to stand in her way.

      Thank you again for yor honesty.  You will be in my prayers.

         -Miranda

    lgeurink
    Member

    Okay, so on the same vein…  My almost 8 year old dd has two female cousins who have been having sleepovers with each other and together at g-ma’s for maybe two years already.  My husband and I decided to make a “no sleepovers till you are 8 rule” so she would have something to tell them when they or any friend asked.  Well those two years have gone awful quick!  The problem is we will never let her have sleepovers with these two no matter her age although we do have friends and family that we will allow for sleepovers.  So when she asked why she couldn’t sleep over at her cousin’s but she could at her friend’s we told her “b/c every family makes their own rules and their rules are different than ours so we would rather she did not spend the night”.  Which was all well and good till I heard her very politely explain this to her cousins last week during lunch when they asked (for the hundreth time) if she could sleep over.  It kind of sounded snotty.  I mean she was very polite and not acting snotty but still….  Their parents did not hear and my husband and I have no problem telling them our kids can’t stay with them overnight.  So any ideas on what we could tell our daughter to say when she is asked again, which is inevitable?  I would also like her to be able to say no in a polite way to people who are probably fine and trustworhty but that we do not know well enough for that.  We have good homeschool neighboors with kids my daughter’s age but I do not know them well enough for a sleepover for sure.  What can they say that won’t come across as snotty but so that my daughter will also hopefully not feel out of place?

    meagan
    Participant

    lgeurink-

     

    Are you open to having others’ children in your home?  Perhaps having her cousins over to spend the night at your house-where you make the rules and monitor the behavior-could be a half way solution?  I don’t know the children and their situation, but perhaps (if she wants to spend time with them) this could satisfy her and not be rude?  Also, in the case of her cousins, I would go ahead and tell the parents and that may stop her cousins from asking all the time.

     

    Also, I would suggest getting to know the parents of your children’s friends as much as possible.  We have done this with our kids friends, though it is harder with our eldest because most of the other parents are much older than we are, but we try to make the effort.  I’m not saying that you don’t try to get to know them, but it makes it so much easier to know the parents when these situations arise so that you can either say yes and feel comfortable, or say no and know that you are making the right decision.

    art
    Participant

    Igeurink,

    I don’t know if this would help, but when someone wants me to do something I won’t do and I don’t want to explain why, I say, “It’s just not something I can do.”

    If your daughters cousins ask her again she could just say “No Thanks” and if they press it she might just say, “It’s just not something I can do.”

    I know that sounds a little adult for a 7 or 8 year old, but it might end the conversation.

     

    Rachel White
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    Igeurink

    My mom used to always say “Blame it on me”; I tell my children the same. If they ask, say “I can’t” and if asked why, “because my parents won’t let me” and if more why, my child tells them to “ask them”, me, the parent. That way, my child doesn’t have to explain OUR rules and it takes the pressure off.

    Not alot of words; keep it simple.

    Rachel

    my3boys
    Participant

    Rachel’s answer is the same my husband and I  have told our kids to use to help them get through uncomfortable situations.

    IF a child or parent of that child had to then go to my husband to question his *rule* they would find that they should have just taken our child’s answer for the answer.  My husband is not someone that anyone usually wants to contend with so the matters are usually dropped pretty fast.  Not bragging, he’s a little confrontational, just stating a fact:)

    lgeurink
    Member

    Thanks for your help.  My husband and I are both pretty confrontational, though I let him be more that way when it comes to dealing with his family.  They all know that about him and they know we don’t allow sleepovers so I wish they would talk to their daughters about it so we would avoid all this.  I guess it is good for our daughter though b/c she is learning, in a pretty safe way, how to handle uncomfortable situations.  Like I said, she was very matter of fact, I don’t think she felt like a “looser” or anything.  I think I will go with the “ask my parents” thing b/c while our nieces and nephews are not the most respectful towards the rest of the adults in our family, they know better to mess with Uncle D!  They are very respectful of my husband and me and obey us without issue when we are taking care of them so I think this would make the most sense.  You all are the best.

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