Not remembering for exam questions

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  • Tovi
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    I am a little frustrated and wonder how to get better results next time.  We are using Module 5 with my 13yo son.  We just started the exam questions for term 1 and today he told me he could remember only about Pennsylvania and nothing about any of the other colonies.  I thumbed through the book and brought out a few key things to help jog his memory……not really something I was “supposed” to do, I know……..and still nothing……I was so frustrated.  This was the first exam question and I am wondering if it will be the same with them all.  Any suggestions?  I want him to retain the information and enjoy learning…..but, I was so disappointed today.  We have done written or oral narrations on everything and he does well at that particular moment….I just thought it would be in his long-term memory as well.  Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Tovi

    sheraz
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    Here is another post with some ideas – and to helpyou know that you are not alone 

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/discouraged-with-term-1-exam-narrations#post-13137

    SueinMN
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    Might not be the answer you are looking for but I wanted to say that I just skip over the exam part. Christy reads aloud and by herself and we discuss as we go. I personally don’t feel the need to even do the exams. She might do well or not, I don’t know but I prefer doing it this way.

    I look at the exams as a really good review before moving on to the next section. I allow my kids to review their material for a couple of days and choose what they want to tell about. Depending on their age, they are required to draw, write, act it out, or do all. Last week, I invited another family to join us for dinner and the kids had an audience, which really excites them to learn all they can before performing and telling “on stage”.

    Misty
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    You are not alone. My children can retell each day with major detail. But come exam time they are like locked in a closet. No details except the last few days. Sometimes maybe I can jog a few memories but that’s about it.

    For me though I just keep going. I am not a history buff, didn’t really remember it from my days and we are just not going to push it. what sticks will stick. I have one or 2 who do better than others.

    I guess what I would say is how much do you want him to remember? How important is the exam to you and your dh? Then you can figure out how to inforce that mroe. Good luck Misty

    sbkrjulie
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    I KNOW you concerns. We have been HSing for 3 years now and I am troubled with the lack of recall my children have for materials. The day they read it, great detail but if “tested” the week after they forget…especially my 8 yr old. We have real issues here with being motivated to learn….and I am constantly holding on to the lost knot in my rope. Neither my husband and I want to send them back to public school.

    In my opinion, they need practice with written tests for college and beyond. I do not give that many written tests now, but even their narration back to me is lacking.

    It’s not my expectations of what I want themt to remember, but I do expect them to remember something for the long haul in life Undecided

    Anonymous
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    When we started this year, my 14yo was not remembering some things as well as I would have liked. The one subject that she seemed to not remember as much on the long term was Science. I did a lot of asking questions at that point to other homeschoolers to get their advice on how to best approach Apologia Science. I’ll share with you what we are doing and maybe that might help some.

    We are doing Apologia Physical Science. After completing the first module and finding out that she didn’t remember a lot from the text for that Module, I decided to rework our approach. Initially, I decided to do oral narrations daily over new and old material in the module she would be doing. So, each day she had a new reading assignment, after she was done, I would go back to the beginning of the Module and ask open ended questions from the beginning of the module all the way up through her reading assignment for that day. We did this for awhile and that helped a great deal. We are now up to Module 5. BTW, per advice from some other homeschool ladies, we are also taking the Science in smaller reading chunks and taking longer to complete the text. I think that has helped also.

    At this point now, we are no longer doing daily oral narrations. I taught her how to highlight main points. In this last module we just completed, she highlighted main points as she read her reading assignment, did a written narration after each reading, and then a couple of days a week, I did open ended questions with her from the beginning of the module up through where she was currently at. These have all seemed to be helpful in helping her remember the material better. One other thing we do, is right now, I don’t do the prepared study guides and tests. At the end of the module, I have her write or type out her own study guide for the module. I find this can be helpful in learning and retaining material as well. Then I go over her study guide and make sure she has included all the important information. She uses that to study and then I give her an open ended question test, usually written but sometimes oral.

    Hope that helps!

    In keeping this conversation rolling for a bit, I ask one question for all of us to ponder. How much do YOU remember and can tell back about something you studied awhile back? Unless a child has an extraordinary recall skills (which some do), normally we just move on to the next thing. That’s why exams are good tools to use. We can review and remember what has been taught once more before moving on.

    Also, this is a perfect reason why something like a Book of Centuries and/or keeping a folder of narrations is good. We can SEE what we’ve done and say, “Oh yes, I remember doing that /or studying that.”

    Charlotte spoke of laying a feast before the child and letting him quietly ponder upon the ideas presented through the various readings. Throwing a test of questions is stifling to anyone, because it is asking for specific answers and testing how much a child DOESN’T know, instead of how much they do know. I don’t know about you all, but when I was in school I studied only what I needed to know to get a good grade. I tested well, but in the end I never cared about what I was learning. Such a shame. Charlotte would frown on that! :).

    sbkrjulie
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    Simple home….thank you for that reminder Laughing I am still so very new to this HSing thing and not sure which direction I should go as I am the product of a public school education. True, I don’t remember much of what I learned in school either but I do recall studying and researching, etc. My children do not study or review anything unless I ride them every single minute (so to speak) to do so.

    I know I am asking a lot by changing over to the CM method and reading for learning as my two children do NOT like to read at all. They watch the clock when I tell them to read for 30 mins. I guess I am hopeful that by reading “living books” rather than textbooks their concept of reading will change for the better. Undecided

    chocodog
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    I was reading an interesting book, “Accelerated Learning for the 21st. Century”  by Colin Rose and Maloolm J. Nicholl. Authors at Accelerated Learning. It talks about how our mind builds on information. How to develop amazing recall. Basically, things like games, lapbooks, timeline books, Unit Studies, anything that can associate  fun with learning has a higher retention. Different surroundings, different ideas for something new and exciting, things that associate what they have already learned with what you want to teach them. This is all I have learned so far in a nut shell. It teaches how the mind works and retains information. I have found this to be a little easier. However, I am still trying to get my son to understand mulitple digit subtraction in  Math….LOL… Borrowing from the neighbors was how I tried to associate it. He is getting it but it is a slow process with this idea.  We however have learned how to count in Japanese from my oldest son. He was reading Geronimo Stilton “The Karate Mouse” as a free read. He enjoys the series. It is like Sherlock Holmes. He goes to different places and solves mysteries. I like the books because they learn new words and things to know throughout the books. Anyway, We have a pocket board on our fridge that we put flash cards up on. We match the names of (in this case) numbers with the names of the Japanese numbers.  It was so cute I couldn’t resist.   My DH came home and found us taking turns trying to match them up.  To our amazement he knew the first five…. He had forgotten the rest… He learned Karate when he was younger and his mom taught them to him… See the power of recall? even years later! I must say I did pretty good….I received and A from my son for getting 8 out of 10..Embarassed    I also use this same method for learning parts of Africa. We were recently learning what the Largest Mountain, Largest River, Largest Mountain Peak, ect…. I write on one 3×5 card Largest Mt Peak on the other 3×5 card I write the answer.. Atlas Mountains. I have found that it takes a couple of times for them to match them all right, but they do eventually get them all. Then, after a week or so we go back and see how much they retained. I am surprised but they are usually 100%. I really like this method. It seems like we are flying threw more facts and I enjoy the match game. It’s an easy game for learning. Another thing is Music. We like to listen to song about Geography,history, grammar,ect…I get mine from http://www.Audiomemory.com It takes the kids a little while to learn them. We just listen to them when we are in the vehicle mostly. But, they have picked up their favorites and we have to listen to all of them till their’s comes back around. Unless I want to flip it over to hear the other one on the flip side first. Wink   Hope this helps.. Good Luck and Blessings.

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