Which language to start with and when?

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  • AFthfulJrney
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    My children are 8 & 6 yrs. old and I was wondering at what age/time I start a foreign language and which language to start with?

    I have some HS friends who have been doing one day a week of Spanish since their kids were six and now I’m wondering if I should have been doing the same!

    Thanks for any advice/help!

    Rachel White
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    It just depends. Does your religion use a particular language in liturgy? For ex: Eccl. Latin, Greek, or Hebrew?

    Do you have a goal that your children read the New Testament in Greek?

    Do you want them to have the benefit of knowing Spanish for future value in the marketplace?

    How about sign language?

    If no to any of these, then I’d say start them on classical Latin. Latin for Children can be done at your children’s ages, but maybe Song School Latin would be better, then L4C A.

    (Also, Song School Greek and Spanish) http://classicalacademicpress.com/early-elementary/

    1. When you get into L4C around 5th gr., then it helps them with their grammar/English skills.

    2. It helps with their critical thinking skills.

    3. It’s the basis for all the Romance languages, so if you or they want to pick up Spanish later, it’ll be easier.

    If you start now with Latin, then you’ll still have time to start one or two others before graduation (including sign language)

    HTH,

    Rachel

    Sonya Shafer
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    You can easily do one of the Cherrydale Press foreign language courses with your children all together just once or twice a week. She currently has Spanish and French available. One book will last two years, and most of it can be done orally, which is a bonus with your ages of children.

    Which language is really your preference, though it may be influenced by such factors as whether you have access to a person who speaks that language and would love to practice with you and your children and/or whether a particular language is prevalent in your local area and you want to be able to communicate with those neighbors.

    AFthfulJrney
    Participant

    Rachel – thank you so much for your reply. This is another one of my dilemmas. If I choose Spanish now, how hard will it be for my children to learn a different language in high school? And, whichever language I choose now, while they are both elementary age, do I stick with it each year until High School? I was going to go with Spanish, just because it seemed to make the most sense, not because I or anyone we know speak it fluently. But, after reading your reply, I’m wondering if I should start with Latin, for the reasons you mentioned, then do Spanish or French when they reach High School? Would it  be easier to start Latin first then learn Spanish or French later on? Sorry for the silly questions…it’s just that this are of teaching my children really confuses me! 🙂 thanks for the help!

    AFthfulJrney
    Participant

    Also, would Latin be more challenging for a struggling reader whose never had any formal English grammar (starting that this year), or more beneficial?

    Rachel White
    Participant

    I don’t think choosing Spanish now would make it harder for another language later. However, I just think that having Latin as a foundation makes more sense. Latin is the foundation for the Romance Languages; Spanish and French are “babies” of Latin, not the other way around.

    Also, Latin is the language of science, law, logic, and historical Christian theology. So, that will probably affect at least one of your children for their future, but at least make studying those subjects a little easier at home. It will definitely help if you teach them logic in the middle/high school years.

    Keep it mostly oral, hence the Sing Song Latin and the little workbks are simple. It uses a conversational approach, not a grammatical one, so I don’t think it would interfere with your struggling reader. It may help. I really can’t say one way or the other. You’ll have to watch for that yourself.

    Singing the songs daily and the card games daily will keep reinforcing what they’ve learned, but not using the workbk daily (I think it’s weekly). I don’t think the DVD is necessary.

    http://cathyduffyreviews.com/foreign-language/songschool-latin.htm

    At this point, just make the singing and vocab recognition in Latin an adventure, if that makes sense. It’s a year long course, then into SSL 2, then L4C A if you like the way it’s coming along.

    I’d say, with as young as they are, they could potentially learn two more languages by graduation if you/they want to (like Spanish and French, or Italian, whatever). Even Greek will be easier after learning Latin, from what I’ve been told.

    Hopefully, too, you can learn with them and so give them someone with which to converse (though their little brains will learn faster than yours).

    Rachel

    AFthfulJrney
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    Thank you for this explanation! The way you stated everything makes so much sense! I’m going to purchase Song School Latin and give that a try this upcoming year!

    Again, thank you!!! 🙂

    alphabetika
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    Well, I’m not sure what Charlotte Mason would say, but I’ll share my experience.

    My oldest daughter (now married, 21) got very interested in Latin when she was middle school age, so we did a couple of years of Latin at home and then she took two years of Latin online for high school credit. She loved it and excelled Her Latin teacher was of the opinion that ancient languages are best begun when a child has some higher-level thinking skills, generally around high school age. She felt that “living languages” could be pursured earlier, but that ancient languages involve a level of thinking and reason and require a serious time commitment that is most appropriate for teens or adults.

    My middle daughter (16, graduating this summer) did a smattering of Prima Latina, two and a half years of Elementary Greek, then a year of high school Greek online. She had always been interested in ASL and we finally found a co-op that offered it on the high school level. She took two years there, then two semesters at the community college and would like to take more if possible. It has become her passion, and in the fall she’ll be spending two months in Uganda volunteering at a school for deaf children.

    We live in an area where many languages are spoken, with almost 50% Spanish speakers, and I am an avid listener to world music and watcher of foreign movies, so my girls have heard lots of languages through these venues for their whole lives. I think the best thing we did was to allow the girls to pursue the languages that interested them most. The practical thing would have been to “force” them to learn Spanish (see 50% figure above) but neither girl was interested in pursuing it academically. So we didn’t. I plan to take the same approach with my almost-6yo.

    I have not read much on what Charlotte Mason said about language study, but I would imagine she’d favor a full-immersion approach when possible.

    So, I haven’t offered any answers to your questions, really, just wanted to share my experiences.

    alphabetika
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    How odd! I wrote my answer (above) several days ago and it disappeared when I posted it so I thought it was gone, and it just now showed up! Well, maybe it will help someone else reading the thread. : )

    Karen Smith
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    @alphabetika, sometimes comment posts get caught in the Spam trap and they get freed when we notice them. If you ever have another post that doesn’t show up when you submit it, let us know through the contact form and we’ll free it for you.

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