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Where to start with a 10th grader?
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I am bringing my dd home this year. She has been in traditional school all along. I have been looking at SCM and Sonlight for her curriculum. I really don’t know where to start her. I also have younger children (ds 12, dd10, ds8, ds6, ds2) that I will have at home. My younger children did a US history cycle this year so we were going on to Creation to Ancients and I was looking at using SCM for them but I don’t really know how to incorporate my oldest dd. Any suggestions. Thanks so much!
If am guessing from your post that you are wondering if you should be doing something other than ancients with your older daughter where you have only three years left. I am sure that you realize that SCM mods can be used with all grades from 1st to 12th.
The first thing you need to know is what your state/provincial requirements are concerning History at the high schol level. Then you need to know what she’s already covered and if you are satisfied that she has adequately covered the material required in PS. After that, you will need to figure out what you want her to learn and what SHE wants to learn. Don’t forget checking with possible colleges if she is college bound to see what their requirements might be if relavent to her possible future studies.
Having said that, if you want to incorporate her into family studies, and she is up to something of a challenge, you could involve her for the ancients family lessons, but not assign the additional readings to give her a chance to do the other three modules independently. For example, family (including dd) does Mod 1, dd does Mod 4 on own, the next year family (including dd) does Mod 2, dd does Mod 5 independently, then in the third year family (including dd) does Mod 3, dd does Mod 6 independently.
Or, you could look at finding something that does all the ancients in one year — like Biblio Plan or Mystery of History. Then combine the other three time periods over a 2 year period.
Again, depends on what your daughter needs to cover, has covered already and what she would like to cover.
She did world geography the first half of the year and state study the second half. How do I find out State requirements? I have been on HSLDA website but they don’t list actual course requirements for the state just that we have to submit a certificate of enrollment at the beginning of the year. I have looked at MOH. it has some good reviews and some not so good which is why I was leaning towards SCM. Were you recommending it just for her or for the whole fam to do? Saw in another post someone recommending Notgrass for a one year world. Why that instead of SCM?
I was just throwing it out there as an option. I know many have liked it, but it is not CM and most on here don’t care for it. Doing 3 full SCM Mods in one year would be a little too much IMHO — not the history itself necessarily the history & geography portions, but rather the Bible History which covers the entire OT and Matthew to Acts in the first three Guides. You could order the guides and see how you might condense them yourself — combine or leave out certain lessons or elements. Another already condensed program might just be easier. I would be reluctant to rush through the SCM modules for the sake of your younger children, which is why I suggested having just your oldest do a condensed version of the first 3 mods, and complete the other mod on your own.
As far as finding out state requirements, google Homeschooling Graduation Requirements in your state, or you could always post a question here asking others from your state to help you find the answers. I’m in Canada, and our province has no particular requirements, so I will use the PS graduation requirements as my guide (as well as requirements for potential colleges/universities). My boys are not in HS yet, but I’ve been giving much thought to this as I try to line things up for the future.
I’m sure others may have thoughts for you coming from a similar position.
Because my 2 sets are so far apart I don’t try keep them on the same cycle. If you choose to have her do a separate timeframe, you could have her do Module 5 this year (1/2 American and 1/2 World) and then Module 6 in 11th grade (again 1/2 American and 1/2 World). Then you could do government and economics in 12th grade.
Thank you! I will look at those modules and see how that will work. Do you think I could roll my 7th grader up with her or keep him in the Mod 1 with my youngers. He has been home now for 2 years and is still not really loving school.
And thank you 4myboys, I found my state requirements. whew.
Yes, he can be done with either set. He will have his own assignments to read after the family part in any of the modules. This is a cool way to do it, because the connections are made at so many different levels. =) And really, you could do them all together with Mod 5 and 6 since each group will have independent readings for that grade level. Makes it really simple and very effective for you.
I would really like to keep them together as a family only because this past year my oldest was in PS, my 12 year old had his “own” curriculum and then my youngers all worked together with me because they are all still so in need of my help. I really feel that I was disconnected from my older two with no family interaction on common ground. So I kind of like this idea. If I do this then I could still stick Civics/govt in my dd’s senior year and cover state reqs. These two Mods should cover her History reqs, right?
If you do Mods 5 and 6 you will end up with one credit of world history and one credit of American history. Then in 12th she can do civics and government. I did both AP history and Government in one year in HS and it was not a problem, so I think she could do that too, if needed to cover all credits required.
Have you actually downloaded the sample of the Modules and their layouts? It could be very helpful. I have to admit that I LOVE the simplicity of the guides. Makes my life much easier. Here’s a link to the page with the sample download.
I have been looking at the Mod samples. Wondering about the reading of the grades 1-3 books for my will be 1st grader. Would I just read those books to any of my kids who are not strong readers as well as adding a phonics program maybe.
And what did you use for AP history?
Having them all together in the same modules would be awesome! And, yes, I would just read the books aloud to a child who is not ready for that reading level. Then you can concentrate on working on reading with them at a separate time.
I like the suggestion of modules 5 then 6 then civics/government/economics study for 12th grade.
Another thing to check out would be Truthquest History guides. It is really just reading alot of living books so you could choose more or less depending on their ability. They have some info on scheduling over various time frames here…
http://www.truthquesthistory.com/howtochoose.php#three_year
Also, depending on your students academic ability and interest in history, you could go with an omnibus from Veritas Press. It covers the history cycle in 3 years and they have a 7th-9th grade option and a 10th-12th grade option. I’m under the impression that they are fairly intense though so an older student could probably use the 7th-9th grade one and be challenged.
http://www.veritaspress.com/products.asp?dept=1071&pagenumber=1&sort_on=&sort_by=
Those would be more for if you felt they really needed to get a whole history cycle in.
Has anyone seen the VP history. I was wondering how dry it might be? I was liking the Mod 5,6, then civics idea a lot but to get off the beaten path a bit– if I put my middle school boy on this cycle he will be starting cycle 1 again in 9th grade along with my youngers. He would then complete Mods 1-3 with a year for civics. which is req by our state. So he misses mod 4, which maybe doesn’t matter. We also have to have a 1/2 credit of State study which I am wondering if people just add this in on top of their History cycle, maybe? I guess I could have him do beginning Mods with fam and cycle 4 independent but might be too much, Maybe its not that important…
Also have a question about adding in Constitution history but I will post that as a new topic.
I have heard Sonya say that to count Mods 1-3 as a high school credit for history, you would have to combine just the history part into one year. Which is totally doable, if you went through the guide books and did the history lessons for each module in 1 term. You can have them do one of the Bible studies available as a seperate subject in order to keep them doing Bible during that year. Another alternative she suggests is Beautiful Feet for going through the Ancients faster then the Mods go.
So I would seriously consider doing the history and geography parts of the SCM Mods 1-3 for 9th, with a seperate Bible study. Then for 10th, I would use Mod 4 as my next thing, keeping in mind that you can always pick out just the history part if time is an issue. For instance, could you not do Mod 4 that way for about 4 months, add in a Government/Civics (constitution) class or State Class for the other half. Then for 11 and 12 I would do Module 5 and 6 each of those TOGETHER count as 1 World History Credit and 1 American History Credit, finishing up with Government/Civics class as needed.
So hypothetically speaking you could do:
Ninth – Ancient cultures (Mod 1-3) (1 history credit)
Tenth – Module 4 and a State Study (each worth a 1/2 credit)
Eleventh – Module 5 and a Government/Constitution/Civics Class (I did this in HS, totally doable) 1/2 credit in each: world, US, and 1 credit in Governement)
Twelth – Module 6 – 1/2 credit in World and American
You end up with 4 history credits. The advantage in adding in the Government class in 11th is that you are freeing up an extra place in 12th grade to finish a needed math or science.
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