Water kefir: need help please!

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  • Kristen
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    I just recently received some water kefir grains and I started a batch on Monday afternoon. Today (48 hours later) it still tastes very sugary and smells yeasty. (Which I read if you bake a lot that will happen- which I do). It isn’t bubbling either. Does it take longer because it’s the first time? I’ve Googled several sites but am not finding a definite answer.

    Karen
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    I don’t have an answer.  But I’m following – because I want to try some!

    Mamatoto
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    Did you receive fresh grains from someone local, or dehydrated in the mail? If dehydrated, your first batch hydrates the grains and your second batch becomes your first batch for consuming.

    How far away is your water kefir jar in relation to other ferments in the house (sourdough, culturing vegetables, kombucha, etc.)?  Too close and there can be cross-contamination between cultures.

    Plain water kefir is GROSS in general – after 24-48 hours, use a plastic strainer to strain out your grains and use them to start another batch.  Then add flavors to your finished batch, or start a double-ferment on your finished batch.  For immediate consumption, I like to add ginger (powdered or oil), raw apple cider vinegar, and stevia to taste. My sister likes to add lemon juice and stevia. For a double-ferment: add fresh or frozen fruit (1/4 – 1/2 cup per half gallon jar), put a lid on your jar, let sit on the counter 1-3 days, then strain out the fruit and enjoy. The residual bacteria eats up the sugars in the fruit.  I usually add frozen berries and lemon juice. Because the jar is capped, you may have a bit of fizz when you uncap it. You probably won’t have fizz at all after the first ferment because it is covered with a tea towel and the gasses can escape. But I don’t usually have fizz in mine unless I do an extra ferment by pouring my finished flavored kefir into grolsch bottles (truly airtight) with 1 teaspoon of organic cane sugar per bottle. Again, the residual bacteria eats up the sugar and, because the gasses can’t escape, it builds up a bit of fizz.

    Make sure you are starting a new batch at least every 48 hours or so – when the grains eat up the sugars and there is nothing left over, they will eventually get gross and “die” and not be able to do their job. I sometimes don’t get to it for three days, but then I try and do back-to-back 24 hour cultures to get them good and healthy again. If you want to take a break, just put them in the fridge in a capped jar with some sugar water.

    Also, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND adding minerals to your sugar water when you culture!! The grains love minerals and will stay healthy and multiply well.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AMUWLK/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1445483807&sr=1&keywords=minerals They will last forever. I add 20 drops to a half gallon jar. Also, make sure your sugar is organic – pesticides aren’t good for grains over time.

    Let’s double check to make sure you are mixing up your sugar water in the right ratios, too. I add a half cup organic cane sugar to a half gallon canning jar, swirl just enough boiling water to dissolve the sugar, then fill with cold filtered water, add 20 drops minerals, drop in my grains, cover with a tea towel and rubberband, and let it go to work!

    A great resource for water kefir is http://www.culturesforhealth.com They have tons of info, FAQs, flavor combinations, videos, etc. that may help you troublshoot.

    Best of luck!!

     

     

    Kristen
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    Thank you so much! The only other ferment I have is sourdough and that is in the fridge right now.

    I will try your suggestions but I think this first batch I will strain and dump as I thought it was to sugary and yeast like and start over.

    Kristen
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    i also realized that I am in the process of making acv.  so that might have something to do with the strong yeast taste/smell.  although the kefir was in a cupboard on the other side of the kitchen.  Maybe I also waited to long.

    It was a fresh batch of grains sent to me in the mail.

    Mamatoto
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    I wonder how long it took to get through the mail, and how warm/cold it was during transportation…  If the grains were fed more than 48 hours before you received them and started them (and temperatures weren’t cool enough to slow them down anyways), then they may be a little “weak” from not having food in such a long time, and in that case I would probably only ferment for 24 hours a few times in a row with fresh sugar water to see if that can bolster their health. Once they are healthy, a 24-48 hour culturing time is optimum.  If they never revive, I highly recommend finding someone local who can give you fresh, recently-fed grains or ordering dehydrated grains from Cultures for Health. I have been super happy with everything I have ever ordered from them. Good luck!!

    Rachel White
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    This website will have many tips. Just scroll down to the various links:

    http://www.culturesforhealth.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=water+kefir

    and

    http://gnowfglins.com/2009/12/17/how-to-make-water-kefir/

    It’s been so long since I made some, I don’t feel y advice would be valauble.

    petitemom
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    I have never made kefir, I don’t know much about it but I make kombucha and I know you should never put it in a cupboard, thought maybe it could have something to do w/it!?!

    Kristen
    Participant

    I don’t think it was the cupboard although I did leave the second one on the counter. It didn’t work however and I threw it all out. (I did several back to back brews) I will try again in a couple if weeks or maybe try kombucha. I have a friend who recently started that.

    Thanks for the help and the link! I really appreciate it.

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