Soy/Rice/Almond Milk

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  • pangit
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    Do any of you make your own soy, rice or almond milk?  I have a SoyQuick soy milk maker.  I have made soy and rice milk in it.  Most of the soy milk recipes I have used, I don’t like.  The only one that I don’t mind uses one quart of store bought soy milk to 2 quarts home made soy milk.  I’d like to find a recipe that I like that doesn’t use any store bought soy milk.  I have also made rice milk, but it has always had a bit of a watery taste.  Haven’t found anything I really like with that one.  I have never made the almond milk, but would be interested in trying it if I had a good recipe.

    Thanks for sharing!!

    LindseyD
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    Hi pangit,

    I have never made any of my own milk! LOL We buy raw milk from a local farmer and have noticed much of our dairy sensitivity has been resolved. I made raw milk yogurt a couple of weeks ago for the first time, and I’ve got some milk clabbering on my counter right now. I plan to make raw cream cheese and liquid whey when it clabbers. It’s chilly here today, so it’s taking longer.

    Since I don’t use our raw milk for cooking, I buy rice milk or almond milk to use in recipes, whichever is cheaper. We don’t use soy products because of the high plant estrogen. I have done some extensive research on soy, and it’s just not a food I want my family eating/drinking. That said, I saw this video the other day on making your own coconut milk. It’s the only help I can offer you, as I have not made soy/rice/almond milk myself. I do occasionally buy coconut milk, for cooking not drinking, but now I really want to try making my own! Sorry I can’t be of more help to you! Tongue out

    Here’s the video link: http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2011/02/video-how-to-make-coconut-milk/

    I look forward to others’ responses about this very interesting topic! 

    Blessings,

    Lindsey

    LindseyD
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    I was curious if the Healthy Home Economist had a recipe for homemade rice and/or almond milk, and she does! Here is that link: http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/2011/01/the-three-best-substitutes-for-a-child-allergic-to-milk/

    The recipes are toward the bottom of the page, after a blog she wrote on milk allergies. Let us know if you try it!

    Rachel White
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    I don’t have any recipes and also avoid soy for the estrogen reasons, the phytic acid and thyroid problems it can cause.

    Almond is a great alternative, as long as the nuts are soaked before hand. Here is an article about it and a recipe for Vanilla Almond milk. Here’s another one with less ingredients.

    HTH,

    Rachel

    Questa7
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    Lindsey–We are raw milk enthusiasts too…in fact, we will be moving to a different state in a couple of months, and have already been working on finding dairy sources there (we use both raw cow’s and goat’s milk in our household.) 

    I am curious, though, why you don’t use it for cooking?

    Oh…and homemade yogurt is THE BEST!

    LindseyD
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    Questa7,

    All the beneficial things that are found raw cow’s milk are killed in the heating process (ie. pasteurization or cooking). As you know raw milk is so full of good bacteria, enzymes, minerals, and vitamins. When you heat any nutrient-dense food, you kill those wonderful things. Cooking or baking the milk essentially does the same thing as pasteurization, thus the reason (I’m assuming) you wanted RAW milk in the first place. 

    Does that answer your question?

    Blessings,

    Lindsey

    Questa7
    Member

    I think so!  And yes, all of those things listed (particularly the digestive enzymes) are our reasons for choosing to drink raw milk.  I do know that heating of course removes all of the “raw” benefits…I guess I was wondering whether (since soy and rice milk don’t necessarily have those benefits either) you choose to substitute in your cooking just because you want to eliminate ALL non-raw dairy? or from a cost perspective (I know that here raw milk can be very expensive, depending on your source)?

    I’m just very interested…I don’t actually know that many people (other than ourselves and a select few friends here) who drink raw, and those I do know (including myself) use it both for drinking and for cooking…with the idea that, even heated in cooking, it is still a higher-quality product than anything store-bought.  So I was wondering if maybe it was due to an intolerance of cooked dairy, or something else.  Thanks for answering!

    LindseyD
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    Questa7,

    Yes, you are right that raw milk is a higher quality product that the organic milk found in the store. And, no, we don’t have intolerances to cooked dairy.

    We do not have significant dairy issues, although dd was intolerant for a while. I really believe the raw milk and high doses of probiotics we take helped tremendously with what could have been a milk allergy. My reasons for choosing to use rice or almond milks in cooking is two-fold. First, because raw milk is expensive and a precious commodity in our home, I wanted to get the most out of my money. If I’m going to pay for the benefits of raw milk, then I don’t want to kill the benefits by cooking them, you know? Secondly, we are trying to eliminate ALL non-raw dairy. I recently made my own yogurt, and just bought an extra gallon of milk from the farm to make more yogurt. As mentioned earlier, I am making some raw cream cheese for the first time this week (still waiting on milk to clabber). And we recently began purchasing raw milk cheese from our co-op (Azure Standard). I just found out today that our local dairy will supply me with raw sour cream, buttermilk, raw butter!! and mozzarella cheese, if I choose to order it. So, we are getting close to being completely raw in our dairy consumption.

    I, too, am intrigued and interested in talking with people about raw dairy. It is fascinating, isn’t it!

    Questa7
    Member

    Lindsey–thanks for your very detailed answer!  How amazing to be able to get everything raw.  You are very fortunate.  I have done pretty well where we live now….in the summer, I am able to buy raw milk, butter, and cream from the Amish at market….no cheese though!  I am really jealous!  I have made my own goat’s milk cheese; the lady who supplies me taught me how and gave me some culture.  It has been delicious.  I would be very interested to know how your cream cheese turns out.

    A wonderful book on raw milk and its history, as well as the culture and politics surrounding it, is The Untold Story of Milk (revised ed.) by Ron Schmid; don’t know if you’ve read it, but thought I’d pass it on.  I just got it from the library and am thoroughly enjoying it.

    Sorry about all the questions…but I would also be really interested to know in what form your LOs take their probiotics…kid’s chewables? drinkable shots? another form?  My son currently eats a probiotic yogurt a day, but I want to institute a much higher dose.

    Also…I have looked at your blog, and wanted to thank you for your nice group of gluten-free blog listings!  My son and I are in the process of going gluten-free for at least a trial period, and I have been feeling a little overwhelmed and down about it (I am a passionate baker).  Looking at the blogs was quite inspiring.  🙂

    LindseyD
    Participant

    I use a capsule probiotic. The kids take the same probiotic as dh and I do. I open the capsule, sprinkle it into a cold food item such as yogurt or applesauce, and stir it in. They know I do this and have never complained about taste. I have also blended it in their smoothies.

    Our probiotic is called Florajen. It has 15 billion live organisms per capsule. I take 2 daily; the kids each take 1. But when my ds had an outbreak of candidiasis in his GI tract, he took 3 daily for about a month, as recommended by our compound pharmacist. These are the strains in this probiotic: Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidobacterium lactis, and Bifidobacterium longum. It must be kept refrigerated. Also, it does not contain yeast, sugar, soy, eggs, corn, wheat, gluten, coloring, or preservatives. I buy it at our local compound pharmacy. For $19.99, I get 60 capsules.

    FYI, if your ds isn’t used to a high potency probiotic, such as Florajen, you might start him out with 1/2 a capsule daily and work up to a full capsule. I’m not a medical professional, so talk to your dr. or a naturopath or compound pharmacist if you’re not sure. Introducing too much beneficial bacteria at once can cause diarrhea or die-off effects, especially if there is an overgrowth of too much harmful bacteria or yeast already in the gut. The probiotic won’t make him sick, but if you’re not prepared for the potential side effects of a die-off, you might think he’s sick.

    Glad you found the G-free links on my blog helpful! That’s why they’re there! I am a passionate baker as well, so PM me if you want our favorite bread and quickbread recipes.

    Blessings!

    Lindsey

    Rachel White
    Participant

    We love our raw milk, too!

    This is probably the healthiest version of nut milk due to the source (GNOWFGLINS):

    http://gnowfglins.com/2006/03/21/raw-nut-milk-almond-or-hazelnut/

    http://gnowfglins.com/2008/06/03/chocolate-almond-milk/

    Rachel

    Questa7
    Member

    Lindsey–sorry it took me so long to respond to this!  Thanks for the probiotic recommendation…and again for the GF blogs; they were very helpful.  About to PM you.

    labellavita
    Participant

    we also avoid soy, my thyroid has already been damaged and I’m on meds, so I try to stay away from foods that could cause further damage, or cause damage in our children.

    I love raw milk, but think its not our season to use it, we’ve had to go off it again.  Cry  I find we all have phlegm and coughs, so its back to almond milk or coconut milk.

    I’ve made almond milk before and its very easy. I’ve tried several recipes, one of my favorites was a blend of rice/oat/almond milk, w/ some vanilla in it.  It was very good, almost like melted vanilla ice cream, major YUM, but not something you’d want for every day use.  So the next time I reduced the vanilla and the sweetener.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2d_xS1v8Yk&playnext=1&list=PLF0989E0B0306D044

     

    HTH!

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