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  • Misty
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    I have a question for those who breastfeed (just to be on the same page).

    When did your little ones sleep through the night? or When did they sleep for longer (and how much longer) stretches?

    I have one who still doesn’t but will take longer naps during the day than she’s doing at night? It’s really becoming annoying and I’m thinking she’s just got really tired mom wrapped around her finger?! 🙄

    Misty

    missceegee
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    Hi Misty,

    Thee are as many opinions regarding nursing and schedules as there are moms it seems like, but since you asked…

    Let me say that all of mine were born healthy and babies who aren’t have not been my experience, so…

    I had a wonderful lactation consultant who taught me about scheduled feedings. I am a BIG believer in scheduled feedings for several reasons – predictability of child’s needs/behaviors, mom’s rest is so important to keeping a good milk supply, needs of the household are more easily met when I know what I am doing and when. This is not to say that I am inflexible and don’t gage the changing needs, but I have 3 dc and this has worked beautifully for all 3.

    I follow a feed, wake time, then sleep time routine w/ my dc. Sometimes the wake time is short, but the point is that I don’t nurse them to sleep. I, personally, don’t want to train into my kids anything that I will need to train out of them later. 🙂

    I never let a newborn baby sleep more than 3 hours during the day without waking (or at least attempting to wake them) for a feeding. At night, I let them sleep as long as they can and then feed them and put them back down.

    Some background…

    DD (our #1) arrived at 10 lbs 14 oz. (2 weeks late) and was sleeping through the night at 5.5 weeks w/ 4 nights of letting her cry it out. I knew she was waking out of routine, not hunger. She was over 13 lbs at that time and even my pediatrician says at 12 lbs they can make it through the night just fine.

    DS (our #2) arrived at 9 lbs 10 oz (1.5 weeks early) and slept through the night at 5 weeks all on his own. He just didn’t wake up for his night feeding one night.

    DD (our #3) arrived at 10 lbs 5 oz (2 weeks early) and slept through the night from the day we brought her home. She occasionally would wake around 3 AM to feed during a growth spurt during the first 6 weeks, but this was rare.

    Now, this may be earlier than some given that my babies arrive so LARGE and reach that heavier 12 lb mark sooner, but if the baby is getting all the sleep he/she needs during the day, well they have to be up sometime and I’m sure you’d rather it be daytime! 😉

    A book that was helpful to me regarding setting a schedule was On Becoming Babywise. I don’t subscribe to everything in the book, but the scheduling part was helpful.

    Like I mentioned, you will probably get many suggestions from others that will differ greatly, but these are my suggestions for what they are worth.

    May the Lord bless you and your growing family!

    Christie

    PS – I can’t wait to nurse our number 4 that is due in December. I miss that snuggle time w/ a wee one! 🙂

    Shanna
    Participant

    What exactly do you mean sleep through the night? Do you mean no nursing at all? For me that is when they are weaned. I am a demand and extended nurses (longest so far has been 22 months). If they want to nurse I let them when they are young. When they are older (12 months and on) if I cannot nurse at that time and I know they are just wanting comfort I will ask them to wait. My nursing babes almost always nurse at night but they sleep with me so I just latch them on and go back to sleep. I never really even wake up so I don’t lose much sleep. I am not a proponent of scheduled feedings but this is not the place to debate.

    I hope you find what works best for your family and little one.

    hvfth99
    Member

    I happened to have children who were also larger at birth (both were 9lb. 8oz.). They both were fed on demand at first, and by 2/3 weeks, they were on their own schedule (every 2 hours during the day and every 4 hours at night for my first; about every 3 hours for my second). Both were sleeping through the night by 6 weeks, but, like Christie’s babies, they were pretty big by then.

    I believe that everyone has their own experiences with nursing, and there’s no wrong or right way; just the way that works best for you and your baby.

    On a side note: you mention that she’s sleeping at longer stretches during the day than at night–could she have her days and nights mixed up?

    Faith 🙂

    Misty
    Participant

    Thank you for all your input. I will try and answer the few questions. She is 4 months (on the 6th). She weights 10.5 lbs. She sleeps either two 2 hour naps or 1 3.5 hour nap (w/ exception of car rides which she will fall asleep in). She eats every 2-3 hours (closer to the 2 range) through out the day and at night she (usually starting at 5pm) eats for about 20-30 minutes every hour till 830pm. So I guess I just needed someone to say.. what I was feeling.. she’s just nursing cause she can. NOT cause she needs it. I am a believer in crying it out so I think it’s time I put in my ear plugs(not for real :wink:) and get this over with. It’s only taken at longest 3 days with my boys so we’ll see what the this girl how stubborn or the opposite she’s going to be.

    Thanks ladies you come through again.

    misty

    missceegee
    Participant

    Misty,

    At our house, sleeping through the night means 6 hours sleep without waking during the night.

    Your baby is just at the size mine arrive (LOL, I know mine are giants!) so she may still need a night-time feeding.

    Also, mine had 2 evening feedings close together sometimes (say 3:00 and 5:00 or so) and my lactation consultant called it a cluster feeding and given that it’s a busy time of day w/ dinner prep. and whatnot that they need a bit more then.

    I count my time from start of a feeding to start of a feeding. So we may might have 6 am, 9am, 12noon, 3pm, 5:30pm, 8:30pm, 11:30pm and then sleep till 6am and start again. When we would have a night feed, it would usually be around 3 am or so.

    I know that people differ greatly and some are fine w/ an on demand feeding plan, but in our house that would have spelled disaster for our family and me in particular. We are orderly and very routine and for us it is best to integrate our babies into our routine from the get-go than have the baby change it all around for us. You know your family best and what will suit you, this is just my experience.

    Best to you and yours,

    Christie

    Lesley Letson
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    Misty,

    Hang in there – that lack of sleep and getting up at night can do a number on you. I would ditto everything that Christie and Faith said. I did pretty much the same thing with my 3 boys. I would say by the time my boys were your daughter’s age we were closer to the 3-4 hour feeding range, but my memory could be blurred. With my first, I tended to give into him more and it took him longer. I had twins the second time around and more out of necessity I was much more strict about their schedule (I always nursed them together so I couldn’t really let them dictate when feeding time was our that’s all I’d be doing). Mine were all tiny but I do think there is something about that 10-12 lb range. I think my twins were smaller than that and probably around 3-4 months old when I could feed them around 9 or 10 and they would sleep until 5 or 6 and that was wonderful to me. And from what I remember, I, like Christie said, would throw in an extra feeding in the evening and that did help. I don’t know your opinion on pacifiers, but we did use them and when we were trying to get them to start skipping that middle of the night feeding we could sometimes give them a pacifier and snuggle them up with a snuggly thing and that would get them settled down instead of getting them up. One other thing that helped with my younger two was trying to encourage a longer morning nap and a shorter afternoon one, they were much more tired by bedtime.I hope you figure out a plan and it works and you can get some sleep!

    Lesley

    Jenna
    Member

    I have nursed 3 and am nursing my 4th right now – she is 7 months. Just another thought – she may need to sleep MORE during the day. I know that sounds crazy, because it is counter-intuitive. At 4 months all of mine still had 3 naps a day for sure. Morning, afternoon and later afternoon/early evening. They all gave that 3rd nap up around 6 or 7 months, but not before. And they had the morning and afternoon naps until 12-18 months as well. Bottom line, the better she sleeps during the day, the better she will sleep at night. Good luck!!

    the9clarks
    Participant

    Mine all slept thru the night by at least 3 mos. The trick for me has always been consistently starting the day at the same time.

    Bookworm
    Participant

    Baby size isn’t always a great indicator, in my experience, either. My two first babies were 11 and 10 pounds, respectively. The first one slept through the night at about 4 months; the second one it was fully 7 months before he did. (He weighed nearly thirty pounds by then, lol) He just wasn’t ready. I gently guide my children onto a basic routine, doing the same things in the same order most days, and I do feel that this helped. Also, for daytime sleep, I just plopped baby down wherever we were–living room, etc. But at night, we had a nighttime routine, and then he got a quiet, darkened room. I think that made a difference, too.

    Third baby had reflux and all bets were off, he didn’t regulary sleep through the night until he was about 2 years. 🙂

    6boys1girl
    Participant

    Misty,

    There were some things that you mentioned that concerned me.

    First, she seems a bit small for 4 months. I know that babies differ quite a bit but most gain about an ounce a day (almost a pound in 2 weeks) from 2 weeks til 3 months. Then they slow down to 3-5 ounces a week. So in 4 months, a baby should have gained at least 6 pounds. All that to say that unless your little girl weighed 4 1/2 pounds at birth, she is small.

    Second, the constant eating from 5-8:30 is a bit concerning. Babies usually won’t nurse that frequently unless they are truly hungry.

    This is all based on my personal experience. One of my babies showed both these symptoms and had something going on. So I would just recommend having her checked out before sleeping training her. It might be nothing at all and sleep training is what she needs but I find it always better to be safe.

    -Rebecca

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