OT: Halloween

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  • Ditto Sara B. and my3boys. Plus we don’t live in a hot spot for trick or treaters so we don’t hand out candy. Grandma & Grandpa come and walk around the neighborhood w/us and the boys and then we order pizza and hang out. Its pretty low-key.

    LindseyD
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    We do not dress up for trick or treating. Even though I’m personally fine with my kids dressing up for the fun of it, a.) We try very hard to keep candy out of our home and don’t need an excuse to bring any in and b.) Even if our costumes are cute and innocent, there are lots of scary things that others wear that I just don’t want my kids to see.

    We go back and forth on taking the kids to the “Hallelujah” Night at church, which is basically like a small indoor fair with booths, face painting, games like bean bag toss and bobbing for apples, but again candy is everywhere and we just don’t need it.

    Lucky for us, our wedding anniversary is on Nov. 1st, so dh and I frequently find ourselves putting the kids to bed early on the 31st, and having some time alone. 😉 

    Our kids don’t even question Halloween because we have taught them that Jesus doesn’t want us to celebrate the things that the enemy uses to bring fear (ghosts, demons, witches, vampires, etc.).

    nebby
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    We don’t do Halloween. I just can’t see a good reason to do it and there are certainly lots of bad practices that can be associated with it so we prefer just not to start. Not far from here, in Salem MA, Halloween is BIG and it is evil. It kind of scares me off the whole thing. But I could see if we lived somewhere else there might be other issues and influences.

    Nebby

    http://www.lettersfromnebby.wordpress.com

    blue j
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    There have been years where we just dressed up and some where we have dressed up & gone out.  To be fair, the years we didn’t do any T or T were the years when we lived out in the country and all of the kids were small.  Now, we live in a small town.  I usually make our treats that we hand out, and have placed scripture verses on the goodies.  I know they may not be read, but they are there. I know in larger towns you can not make goodies to give out as there is the unfortunate safety issues that accompany that. At any rate, when the children come to the door, we talk to them, not just tossing candy in their bags.  We ask them about their costumes, school, etc. 

    After talking to a friend of mine who does this, our family is considering cooking hot dogs and passing them out to people on Halloween and simply talking to the kids and their parents… sharing love and food with our neighbors rather than the candy.  I am not sure if that is what we will do, but it does appeal to me.  We have an Aldi near us, but given the amount of traffic we get, this may or may not be feasable.  We shall see.

    We do carve or decorate pumpkins, but they either have smiley faces, crosses, leaves, or some combination thereof or are painted with fall scenes.

    csmamma
    Participant

    For the past 12 years, our family has chosen not to celebrate halloween – mostly for the obvious reasons of its origin. Robin Sampson has an excellent article & video http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/should-christians-observe-halloween/ , which sums up our reasoning. May you all enjoy a beautiful Autumn.

    sheraz
    Participant

    We just turned it into a day of service where we make something and take it to shut-ins from church. The girls get to wear their costumes – we don’t do scary or inappropriate – usually we have several princesses in various forms. 😉 Nothing over the top, but enough of something that no one feels like they are left out – that happens so often anyway.

    Our “party” at home involves dinner, games (ring tosses, bingo, etc) or a fun movie and then they can trick or treat in the house with a few approved treats due to food allergies. 

    In reality, the longer we homeschool, the smaller the “fun” celebrations are for all holidays. =)  It is much easier to focus on the important things without all the distractions when we homeschool.  One more reason to be grateful we can homeschool!

    Inky
    Member

    We don’t celebrate it.  Ditto ServingWithJoy and csmamma.  Another verse that always come to my mind is

    Philippians 4:8
    Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable – if anything is excellent or praiseworthy – think about such things.

    I don’t feel I can ask my children to celebrate Halloween when, for example, this morning we read in the Bible how King Josiah tore down every alter to idols in the land.

    I think someone mentioned what about Christmas/Christmas trees.  True, Christmas (celebrating Christ’s birth) replaced a pagan festival, and the Christmas tree was changed to focus on Christ’s death on the tree.  So the way we handle that is to hang only nativity decorations up, and we talk lots about what Christmas is about…and what it’s NOT about.  Jesus becomes very much the central focus.  We talk about what it meant for him to hang on the tree.  I know though that Christians differ in this area.

    Halloween seems different from Christmas in that it has nothing to do with Christianity  and I have no reason to celebrate it personally.  Unlike Christmas, it’s a night dedicated to the occult by practicing pagans around the world.

    HTH

    Blessings

    Kate Mom of 1
    Participant

    We used to go out and trick-or-treat, but a combination of food allergies and personal beliefs has kept us from doing that the last 5 years or so…My nephews and sister come over and we make dinner, watch a movie, paint/carve pumpkins and play games.  Sometimes the kids dress up and sometimes they don’t. 🙂 Our church also typically does a hayride/fall festival the weekend before Halloween, so we go to that. 

    thepinkballerina
    Participant

    No. It’s a witches’ holiday, the witch’s New Year, also called Samhain. God hates witchcraft and says not to mix light with darkness. 

    Samhain, (pronounced SOW-in, SAH-vin, or SAM-hayne) means “End of Summer”, and is the third and final Harvest. The dark winter half of the year commences on this Sabbat. 

    It is generally celebrated on October 31st, but some traditions prefer November 1st. It is one of the two “spirit-nights” each year, the other being Beltane. It is a magical interval when the mundane laws of time and space are temporarily suspended, and the Thin Veil between the worlds is lifted. Communicating with ancestors and departed loved ones is easy at this time, for they journey through this world on their way to the Summerlands. It is a time to study the Dark Mysteries and honor the Dark Mother and the Dark Father, symbolized by the Crone and her aged Consort. 

    Originally the “Feast of the Dead” was celebrated in Celtic countries by leaving food offerings on altars and doorsteps for the “wandering dead”. Today a lot of practitioners still carry out that tradition. Single candles were lit and left in a window to help guide the spirits of ancestors and loved ones home. Extra chairs were set to the table and around the hearth for the unseen guest. Apples were buried along roadsides and paths for spirits who were lost or had no descendants to provide for them. Turnips were hollowed out and carved to look like protective spirits, for this was a night of magic and chaos. The Wee Folke became very active, pulling pranks on unsuspecting humans. Traveling after dark was was not advised. People dressed in white (like ghosts), wore disguises made of straw, or dressed as the opposite gender in order to fool the Nature spirits. 

    This was the time that the cattle and other livestock were slaughtered for eating in the ensuing winter months. Any crops still in the field on Samhain were considered taboo, and left as offerings to the Nature spirits. Bonfires were built, (originally called bone-fires, for after feasting, the bones were thrown in the fire as offerings for healthy and plentiful livestock in the New Year) and stones were marked with peoples names. Then they were thrown into the fire, to be retrieved in the morning. The condition of the retrieved stone foretold of that person’s fortune in the coming year. Hearth fires were also lit from the village bonfire to ensure unity, and the ashes were spread over the harvested fields to protect and bless the land. 

    Various other names for this Greater Sabbat are Third Harvest, Samana, Day of the Dead, Old Hallowmas (Scottish/Celtic), Vigil of Saman, Shadowfest (Strega), and Samhuinn. Also known as All Hallow’s Eve, (that day actually falls on November 7th), and Martinmas (that is celebrated November 11th), Samhain is now generally considered the Witch’s New Year. 

    thepinkballerina
    Participant

    And we don’t put up xmas trees either. 

     

    Britney
    Member

    About 10 years ago I worked at a doctor’s office. After a new girl was hired, I was in charge of training her. After a a week, she related to me that she practiced Wicca, which is witchcraft. And that she actually belonged to a local coven, which is a group of witches. The things she told me about the significance of Halloween for them chilled me to the bone. Our office was a “christian” practice and I suspect she agreed to the mission statement just to “get in”. Once she was hired she caused all kinds of problems both corporately and spiritually. She was fired not long after that but what I learned stuck with me. As a Christian, and the mom of a then 3 year old, we had been going to our church’s trunk-o-treat, etc. However, after that encounter I began to see that day for what it was and God spoke to me through that. I realize it is a personal choice for each family, yes, but I just don’t see anything good coming from celebrating that day. It is just evil in my opinion. We basically treat that day as no different from the rest.

    This year we have actually found some like minded families getting together on November 3rd to celebrate Reformation Day! We are excited! “Martin Luther” will be speaking and there will be yummy fall food. For two years we rented a cabin in the mountains during that time to unwind as a family by paying board games and watching movies. This got us away from the trick or treaters that bang down my door every year, regardless of the sign I place out.

    Robin Sampson’s blog post was a really good one on the subject also.

    As for the Christmas tree thing….that is a current discussion in my family. Each year we keep scaling back. I struggle with it each year. Right now we do a Jesse Tree and we read through the Ytreeide books. We don’t do anything with Santa either. For us it is focused solely on Christ’s birth. My husband sees alot of symbolism in the tree and how it demonstrates so many things about Christ, as someone else mentioned. Sort of as if it has been redeemed of sorts. I can see both sides so we are in prayer about this. However, for us we just don’t see how Halloween can be “redeemed”. KWIM? So, it’s a BIG NO for us.

    We also don’t take mention of Easter. We do not do baskets, egg hunting, etc. We celebrate Resurrection Day in stead. We read the Resurrection Story and bake resurrection rolls and sings great songs and worship at church.

    Britney
    Member

    We have actually been looking into having a Christian Seder. We have learned alot this year about Jewish customs via our New Testament studies and we were very interested in Passover. So, I’m looking into alot of resources on the internet about that also. Though we are not Jewish, my kids would love to participate in something like that. I think it would bring the Last Supper to life for them. 🙂

    trulyblessed26
    Participant

    We don’t.  Simple rule: if it doesn’t honor God, then we don’t celebrate it.  We celebrate Easter as Resurrection Day and Christmas as a Jesus birthday party. 

    missceegee
    Participant

    Just some food for thought . . . As in many things, it is up to each family or individual to yield to the prompting of the Holy Spirit. These articles are simply meant to be food for thought as each family prayerfully considers their family traditions. I respect those who choose to avoid Halloween, but I am not honoring Satan or witches or the very real occult by allowing my kids to participate in Halloween. My God is mighty and did not give me a spirit of fear. By choosing to celebrate Halloween, I am not forsaking God. I am enjoying a day of light hearted fun with my kids. I say “this is the day that the Lord has made, let us be glad and rejoice in it.” I do not choose to give this day to the prince of darkness. Another scripture that comes to mind is “resist the devil and he must flee.” I will not presume to know the hearts of those who choose differently than I do, however, I think that should go both ways.

    We dress up in fun, silly, creative costumes and enjoy trick or treating too.

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/october2/29.79.html

    http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/ask-pastor-john/what-are-your-thoughts-on-halloween

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/should-christians-celebrate-halloween/2011/10/30/gIQA4HmbXM_blog.html

    http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/sent-into-the-harvest-halloween-on-mission

    It is very late and I’m sure I’m not writing as coherently as I could, but I did want to briefly share our family’s thinking. Perhaps it will spark continued dialogue.

    Wishing all of you a good night.

    Blessings,

    Christie

    PS – we celebrate Christmas (with tree) and Easter (with eggs) while still managing to keep Christ the center of our home and our family.

    dztamra
    Participant

    Having read all of the prior posts, I must say I still see that there is no correct answer to this issue. If we were to analyze many “traditions” or “practices,” we would see that a large majority of them have no Biblical basis and many actually come from pagan practices.

    In fact, the simple act of celebrating birthdays is a pagan practice. The only 2 times that a birthday celebration is mentioned in the Bible were pagan celebrations. In Genesis 40, the Egyptian Pharoah’s birthday is mentioned. On this occassion he had the chief baker hanged. In Matthew 14, Herod’s birthday is celebrated. The result of that celebration is John the Baptists head being requested by Herodias. (I’d say neither of these are desirable results.)

    The Bible gives no date for Jesus’ birthday and we know it wasn’t Dec 25th. Also, in the years he walked the earth, we see no mention of celebrating his birth. He did tell us to remember his body and blood when we drink or break bread, but never did he tell us to honor his birth. 

    I do not say this in order to convince you that we shouldn’t celebrate Jesus’ birth. I simply mean to point out that all holidays could fall under great scrutiny. We must use discernment and respond as the Lord convicts us individually. I believe that we should look into each activity that takes up our time (even just one day) and consider whether it is worthy of that time. Is there any part of that activity that causes us to dishonor the Lord? Is there any benefit coming from that activity? The answers could actually be different for each family.

    As for our family, we participated for many years in Halloween. I never allowed any costumes that I deemed inappropriate (whether it be immodest or ghoulish, Satanic, etc.). I had detailed conversations with my kids about these things. However, after much discussion and consideration every year, they chose to stop the participation in the Holiday; because of it’s negativity but also because of the wastefulness involved. 

    We have had a Christmas tree in the past as well; however, I don’t  know if we will this year because we simply may not have room for it. We have downsized to a much smaller house. If we have no room for a table to eat together, we probably won’t have room for a tree. 🙂

    Perhaps one way to determine if any item should go is to ask yourself if you could go without it. If losing the tree would ruin your holiday, then perhaps you’ve placed too much value on it. Just a thought. 

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