First, I didn’t want to hijack the other math thread with this, so posting here, but the other math thread is what instigated all of this…I would like that noted for the record. LOL
My 7 year old DS is getting frustrated with Horizons. He can do the work, but he just dislikes it. He absolutely loves Life of Fred, but I am not outside the box yet apparently because it is so outside the norm that I know as math that I can’t accept that it will teach him all he needs. So while we continue Fred and he thoroughly looks forward to it, it is a supplement to Horizons and I was pleased that it showed real life math application even if in slightly bizarre ways. Anyway, I read this thread and checked out Ray’s free ebooks online and my ds happened to come and snuggle up to me as he is want to do in late evenings and happened to see it. He became very interested and started telling me all the answers to the word problems. i was not asking him too mind, I was multi-tasking…watching tv & internet surfing and forum surfing between SL & SCM and didn’t even know he was paying attention to what I was doing. I was trying to see the differences in the Primary book 1, Intellectual book two and the Primary elementary series….. He amazingly pointed out that the primary first book was way too easy and that the intellectual was way to hard and so we settled on the Elementary series and he seriously went through answering one or two word problems on each page until we got through all the addition and hit subtraction upon which he says, “OH I don’t care for subtraction much” and I said, “well, it appears you know your addition so it looks like you have no where else to go but to the next page” and he just laughed and said, “well I guess there is no way out of this one; I will do it tomorrow.” I said alright and then he told me he loves this kind of math because it is like a riddle and he loves to figure out what to do! He was having fun writing out the number 5 billion 345 million 45 thousand and 14 units. He wrote it out and yes it took a while for him to piece it all together filling in a zero in the thousand house or period, but he did it and then once he had done two of them he said just for fun, could he add the two together. I said go for it and I sat stunned and amazed at my little 35 pound 7 year old adding 12 digits plus 12 digits and he got it right!!
I am not bragging but since last march when I pulled the kids from PS, this same boy was telling me that 17-4 was too hard and he didn’t get it!! He was making a B in math and hated every minute of it. HOMESCHOOLING is awesome and I am so happy to have such a helpful and peaceful forum to get such great ideas and support from!! Oh & too share great success stories too of course. Thanks Ladies!!
Now, I have the dilema….. keep doing the Ray’s (I will buy book because it is hard to do off laptop) or use it for taking a break from Horizon? Stick with Horizon till finished with this year then switch to Ray’s? Let him pace himself between Ray’s & Life of Fred and drop Horizon? Don’t know what to do.
After public I tried Mammoth math thru summer and I liked that it was mastery based, but he would complete a whole section and pass the test completely and then 2-3 weeks later when presented with same problems, he was at a loss and had forgotten. So I thought horizons being a lot of review would help transfer the know how from short term to long term, but he dislikes all the review and practice. He does it and he doesn’t whine, but he just openly and honestly tells me he doesn’t care for it. I want him to enjoy his studies but I do not want him too think it is ok to quit things, but if it isn’t a good fit then finding a better fit seems logical.
I guess what I want to know is, will all this switching curriculum screw him up? OR Should I continue to try new stuff till we find what fits him? Opinions appreciated.
I don’t see where you can go wrong with a Ray’s / Fred combo….especially since it seems to suit him well. Our set was loaned out between children who’d use it. I need to track down those little gems and take another look!Wings2flyParticipant
Well, we switched and the third time was a charm for us. But he was not learning it with the other two programs. Which is better: staying with one they hate and do not understand, or changing…even starting over, but they get it and might even LIKE it? We are using RightStart now and he understands that blue and yellow beaded abacus. He likes to play their math card games. Who knew? But because of the switching and having to start at the beginning since he never really learned with the other two, he is behind where he could be if we had started the right one sooner. I have no regrets for switching to one that fits him. That said, we are reaching a more difficult section and are putting it aside for a little while. We will still play their card games. I am having him read Life of Fred now, because I like how it helps them relate math to real life. And we are doing xtramath.com that someone on here recommended. He adds and subtracts great, but not as fast as they should be. We will try the math lessons again next term. I don’t look at it as quiting something. You are still doing math, just changing what you are using to better fit the child’s needs or learning style at the time.erin.kateParticipant
I didn’t know there was an elementary series between primary and intellectual. 🙂 Do you have a link? I’d love to check it out.ruthParticipant
Here is a list of all the Rays books, but I am not quite sure wich books Channa was referring to.erin.kateParticipant
It looks like Elementary comes after Intellectual. Thanks!cdm2kkParticipant
Sorry busy day yesterday… There is the first set of Ray’s then they came back and have a 2 book series and the elementary one is the first part it combines the primary and the second book and I think part of the third.
here is the ffree online one I found….https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=i815HQ97HpkC&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&authuser=0&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA29
let me know if the link doesn’t work.
We went thru the New primary one here… https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=ntTy0NUjKHQC&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&authuser=0&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA27
and he gave answer for 3-4 problems per page until he got to the subtraction section and that is how I got him to get that it is time for him to move on. He can subtract, but just doesn’t like it since it is harder for him to do mainly because he doesn’t know his facts as well and does whatever he can to get out of having to do it. LOL He seems more open to it though with Ray’s so I guess I’m going to continue with it. Thanks for the suggestions and the points of views. I am open to any more that have experience with switching around and how it all turned out in the end too. 🙂
right now, I’m setting Horizon aside and continuing with Ray’s and Fred. Hope this one sticks. He has told me he does not want to to do Teacing textbook 3 next year, which is what dd is using and I have already and it does everything for you, blah, blah blah….. LOL
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