learning styles…wrong curriculum?

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  • melindab72
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    I have two girls, one is 11 and the other is 9. My 11 year old is thriving in our second year with CM. My younger one seems to struggle.

    So far I was just assuming it was her way, and that it’s really what I can expect to deal with. She was diagnosed at age 3 with mild autism, but now tests off the spectrum and they say it’s just an auditory processing disorder. She zones out quite a bit when I read aloud. Literature, science, Bible is tough for her. She does well when she reads on her own. But read aloud is part of what we do as a family.

    What really got my attention was what happened the other day. A friend gave me a bunch of Abeka materials to see if I could “maybe find some use for them” My daughter found them and have been devouring them for days, repeating to me all the “interesting facts” she’s learned. She loves it! I hear her reading aloud to herself, she’s very interested and it seems to be clicking with her. For the record, her favorite books to read are nonfiction animal info books, science texts, and magazines like Ranger Rick. This girl loves facts!

    Do you think I should consider giving Abeka a try next year? I really have to give it some serious thought before I decide to do two totally different methods in my homeschool. What a lot of work for me! LOL

    And then there’s the problem that I have it in my mind that everything other than CM is inferior learning.

    What do you think? I’d love your opinions.Smile

    TX-Melissa
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    It still sounds like she’s using the CM way, so to speak. She’s found an interest in those particular books, reading them, and then telling you about it. But she’s not actually doing the Abeka curriculum, is she? Are there workbooks she’s using, too? Just trying to clarify.

    Melissa

    melindab72
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    No, I don’t have workbooks to go along with them. But she does love workbooks.

    TX-Melissa
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    Hmmm, not to say you shouldn’t use Abeka, but maybe try having those types of books for her to read. They are not bad books, I don’t think. And I’m not at all against workbooks if a particular kiddo enjoys doing them.  🙂  Maybe just pick and choose some books from Abeka rather than buying the whole box and trying to follow it. Does that make sense?

    Melissa

    retrofam
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    We used Abeka science readers for years because the children liked the pictures and interesting facts. I didn’t use the questions, tests, etc. When the kids got older they tired of them due to the same topics year after year(with a few new details).

    I am new to CM and starting to build a home library including science books. I got “World of Science” and “World of Animals” from Master books (Christian reference type books). They are beautiful and engaging. I got free e-books of some Yesterday’s Classics titles also. My children use encyclopedias a lot too.

    There are a lot of options for CM science. I have two children with High Functioning Autism, so I understand the love of facts. Lots of these kiddos love immensely their encyclopedias. 🙂

    morgrace
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    Since you asked for opinions, I’m giving mine Smile I’m going to encourage you to hit the pause button before you jump ship with CM and your daughter. I agree with Melissa about using books that work for her, without following another curriculum entirely. Is it possible you have hit upon an area of high interest for your daughter? (Hence the devouring of books and spontaneous narration?) And it’s the subject matter (not the curriculum)? One of my kids is very interested in how things work and “facts” he eats up the very same kinds of books you’ve described…non-fiction animal books, science texts (LOVES LOVES LOVES the Apologia Zoology series) and Ranger Rick. It finally occured to me that he wanted the information of “how” and “why” and even if other families did/did not care for Apologia in the early grades, he wanted to know all about (fill in the blank) complete with details. (As a child I read horse care manuals for fun, because I wanted to know how to take care of horses so badly!)

    Which brings me to my other thought, if you think it’s a learning style/curriculm (and not subject matter) and hopefully I won’t agitate anyone by saying this, but could it be that a “fact-filled” book requires much less mental effort than digging out the information yourself from a living book… I mean, it’s right there, cut and dry, the non-living book just gives you the fact with little to no effort on your part. It might actually be easier and feel like a short cut for your daughter. I bringing this up I also have a child with auditory processing difficulties, and I was very close to throwing in the towel with CM last year because narration was going so very badly. He has to have very direct, clear, and short instructions even when asked to do things around the house or he really struggles. I have to share the computer now and need to end my post, so I’d suggest taking a couple of steps back and paying careful attention to your daughter to observe how she takes information in the easiest, it’s entirely possible that the verbal (auditory) reading aloud is the part of the problem because it’s just hard for her to take in ANY information that way (to say nothing about the richer language of those beautiful living books). Neither of which, I think is a good reason to chuck CM out the window. Look at her and then adjust how you present the books, let her follow along with her own copy, let her draw (if it doesn’t distract her), let her look at a picture of the person in the Bible story, shorten the read aloud time. etc. (And then add in some of those high interest books for science or just on the side for her to look at in her free time) I’ve really got to go now, hopefully you’ll get some other good answers! 

    P.S. You’re welcome to send me a PM, I probably have lists of non-fiction animal books somewhere!!

    srlord
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    My ds12 also has APD with an Integration Deficit.  I agree with @morgrace about the non-fiction factor.  My son has always read non-fiction at a MUCH higher level than fiction.  He has been reading from high school and college level textbooks about subjects in which he is interested since first grade.  This is while he was in an intensive remediation reading program through the public school for not being able to read (read fiction, that is).  Fiction is still an issue and read-alouds are not easy for him.  However, it is getting better everyday.  My son, despite the difficulties in processing auditory material, is thriving in CM style studies.

    One thing that has helped us with any read-aloud has been to use Sonya’s suggestions about writing “hooks” on a whiteboard and previewing the main ideas.  We use that idea in every subject in which we have a read-aloud.  

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/2013/09/25/narration-auditory-speech-issues/

    For a fiction read-aloud, I also try to find something that is within the “must find out everything” subject of the moment or, at least, a topic that I know interests him.  

    You may also want to check out some of Dianne Craft’s suggestions for Reading Comprehension for children with auditory issues.  “Make a movie” has been very effective for my son.

    http://www.diannecraft.org/language-arts-reading-program/

     

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