Large families and groceries… (& hard boiled eggs)

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  • I never use paper plates – always proper plates, I try and avoid paper products cups, napkins, paper towels. We use cloth napkins, dishcloths instead of paper towels and proper cups and plates. We even go so far as to use cloth sanitary protection and have not bought pads at the store in years. I have a very good washer that does sanitary loads, and I save a lot of money not using those things. I make all my own cleaning products and so don’t spend money on those either. I repair and mend anything that is ripped, and yes I darn socks and old fashioned skill, but with the price of socks these days, I am not going to throw them away when I can do a neat darning job. I never wash anything with a hole in it, as it makes the hole bigger, so I repair everything prior to washing. I use knitted dishcloths and facecloths and they feel good and last a long time. A lot of the things are on the PennyWise blog including I think laundry soap recipe and a pattern for a knitted dish/face cloth. It was amazing to me how much money we spent on paper, plastic and cleaning supplies, and so I changed it all and rarely use any of those things anymore – the savings have been great.

    In regard to your boys eating a lot and being hungry, have you tried making sure they get some protein in every meal, that lasts longer in the body and keeps you full longer – my mum always made sure we had eggs or a protein at breakfast and that lasted a long time. Oatmeal made with milk fills you up and lasts a long time as well. Hope these things help. Linda

    ibkim2
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    I have a small family…..just dc age 5&3, dh, and myself.  I do spend more on groceries this past year having decided that processed foods was not good for us and we were sick all the time.  I wish we could afford all organic and nothing processed, but we’re not there in the budget yet….hope to start a garden eventually knowing the start up cost will be the main expense.  My one friend who buys ALL her meat at whole foods, all her produce organic, and and only Ezekiel bread says it’s better to spend more on groceries now and not pay the doctor later.  I agree with her, but can’t afford such a diet. 

    Since changing our diets we do make most meals from scratch….the veggies/fruits that I don’t buy organic I buy at discount stores….Asian market or Aldi’s.  Instead of chicken breast, I now buy organic free range chicken (would like to have our own chickens, but can’t have them in our surburban HOA neighborhood)….I make chicken broth and freeze in 2 cup glass containers and use the broth in hearty soups.  We eat alot more beans and rice.  Canned beans is our new “fast food” where frozen dinners used to be.  Usually I make beans in the crockpot and make extra to freeze for another time.  I make filling soups with diced tomatoes, chicken broth, greens, carrots, potatoes, and beans.  I now buy Ezekiel bread at the health food store, but my kids get one piece instead of two since it is more filling.  My new goal is not wasting veggie scraps, but starting to make veggie broth with them.  We buy our oats, dry beans, quinoa, and brown rice in bulk.  DH recently discovered a homemade microwave popcorn secret….1/4 cup popcorn kernels, 2 tsp of oil,  salt to taste……put in a brown paper lunch bag, fold over twice, staple 3-4 times, and microwave till done.  (DH believes Alton Brown is right that the staples won’t catch fire so has made this our new snack food, I”ll let you know if there is fire though, LOL.) This is much cheaper than microwave popcorn and much easier than stovetop popcorn. 

    This is just my start to saving money on a healthier diet.  Hope to get our grocery bill down more though. 

     

     

    I wasn’t trying to say at you were starving them to the point of scaring them for life…I was just trying to explain why I try hard to make sure they eat when they are hungry.

    I just wanted to make sure it didn’t come put wrong!

    Tristan
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    Oh, I have to add a comment about the children who are always hungry and what to do about it.  Honestly, we’ve got a few that go in phases and one that is nearly always hungry (oldest boy, not quite 7). 

    1. Make sure they have a waterbottle and are drinking water. 

    2. Set meals and snack times so they know food is always coming.

    3. If they are still hungry after eating the food on their plate from a meal they can have seconds if there are some. This means they must eat the 1-3 bites of each food they are given whether they like it or not (amount based on age), before having more of what they like.  After seconds we move to #4 below – 

    4. We try to offer at least one of the following for relatively free access each day:  apples (we go through about 10lbs a week), carrots, cooked beans, whole wheat bread with peanut butter or pb and j, pretzels, salad, baked potatoes, rice. 

    RobinP
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    You know, I was trying to remember just yesterday the last time I went to the grocery store.  I do run in for toilet paper, (Smile) but that’s about it.  We milk two Jerseys (three next year because we kept one of the heifers born last year) so there’s no milk, butter, cheeses, ice cream, etc. to buy.  I mill my own grains and make all our bread products including cakes, cookies, even ice cream cones.  We raise chickens for meat and eggs, a friend raises pigs for us that we feed our extra milk/whey to, we have grass-fed beef in the freezer as well and the two calves born to us this year were both bulls, so that will be more meat and our friend also raises sheep so she gave us a lamb.  We have a garden and a pond with fish in it.  I raise my own herbs.  I do buy some spices from the Frontier co-op and beans, grains, sucanat, etc. in bulk from Bread Beckers co-op.  Tonight we’re having home-made chicken noodle soup with the broth and left over chicken from an earlier meal and fresh out-of-the-oven sourdough crackers with a big glass of raw milk, or in the case of dh, southernly sweet tea. 

    RobinP
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    Oh, and when I boil my eggs, I make sure they’re room temp. (mine always are because I never refridgerate them.)  After they’re done I run cold water over them and let them cool.  Then I crack them while they’re UNDER the water.  I’ve boiled eggs gathered that day and had no problems at all this way.

    You are blessed Robin, what a great way to live, it is harder when you live in a place where you have a housing association breathing down your neck. When we moved to this area after the hurricane we would have loved a place with a bit of land to have a garden and a few animals. However the military gave us one week to find a place in this area, and that time goes fast – we bought our house and are happy with it, hoping that down the road when hubby retired from the military that we could move to the place of our dreams. Well with the housing market that is no longer an option, so for now we are blessed with what we have and the only real gripe I have is no washing line or greenhouse allowed in our yard. It is nice to read of someone like you Robin who is living the self sufficient way – way to go. Linda

    LindseyD
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    Misty,

    I haven’t really poured over everyone else’s responses, so forgive me if I repeat. We do not have a large family, but I am a very conscious shopper and hate spending more money that I absolutely have to on food.

    Here are some ways I’ve found to cut our costs (I’m sure these are repeats of others.).

    1. The first thing I ever made from “scratch” was our laundry soap. I’ve been doing it for three years now, and I can’t even tell you how much money we’ve saved. I have made powdered and liquid, but prefer the powdered because it takes up less space. Only three ingredients are involved in either recipe, and they’re both very simple. Here are the recipes: Powdered and Liquid.
    2. I also make my own cleaning products using recipes from the Penny-wise blog. The only cleaning product I find I need to buy now is furniture polish. I suppose I could use lemon oil, but to me it’s more expensive for the amount of wood furniture I have.
    3. Baking. Yes, it takes time and I had to develop a love for it; but baking from scratch really does cut costs. You can buy grains in bulk for VERY cheap and grind them yourself. If you don’t have a grain mill, you can buy flour in bulk for much cheaper than a regular 5lb bag. Always keeping plenty of baking soda, baking powder, xanthan/guar gums (we are GF) on hand saves me unnecessary trips to the store. I try to set aside one evening per week to bake our sandwich bread, quickbreads for snacks, and homemade waffles or pancakes.
    4. Speaking of breakfast, you can make your own (much healthier) waffles and pancakes and freeze them yourself to pop in the toaster for a quick and easy breakfast. Make sure you cool them first before freezing or they will be mushy. Also, you can make your own flavored, instant oatmeal and save loads of money over buying the boxed packs of flavored oatmeal.
    5. I also make large amounts of beans at a time in my crock pot. I have 2 crock pots, so I fill both up with beans, allow them to cool, then transfer them about 2 cups at a time into freezer bags. I usually put half the beans through the food processor to make “refried” beans and freeze those in bags too. If I ever need a quick dinner, I toast some corn tortillas until crispy, cut a hole in the tip of the refried bean bags, and “pipe” it on to the tortilla. Adding some cheese on top and baking turns it into a very cheap bean and cheese tostada for lunch or dinner. With the whole beans, I use them for soups and other recipes that call for a can of beans.
    6. Broth. I have been making my own broth from chicken and beef bones for a long time, and it saves a lot. I like to add salt, sage, a bay leaf, a few carrots, celery, and half an onion to the water for flavor. Then I let it simmer for about 12-24 hours. Check the water level during cooking and keep the pot full. You can freeze the broth in whatever portions are convenient for you and use later when recipes call for broth or just to add flavor to rice or whatever.
    7. A garden. We tried this year, and our part of the country is experiencing a drought. Just got our first drops of rain the other night…first time in almost 6 months. Crops and gardens everywhere are dying, so I didn’t feel too bad about it. I know during a normal rainfall year a garden will be another money saver for us.

    I encourage you to really take some time and check out the Penny-wise blog. The topics and subjects listed on the right side are full of information, recipes, and tips on saving money. 

    Hope this was helpful,

    Lindsey

    RobinP
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    Oh I hope it didn’t sound like I’m boasting!!  Embarassed  I don’t put my trust in princes and chariots (or in my case cows and gardens) but only in the Lord.  It’s all by His grace.  But as I reread my post, it sounded like I was feeling like it is all by my hand and it is not.  Praying for all of us on this journey of providing for our families in whatever situation He has us in.

    No Robin I did not think you were boasting, I was just thinking you were very blessed to be in that position – and it is nice to know that these things can be done, so that those of us who may like to try in the future know who to call, lol. I did not read your email in the way you think, I just thought how wonderful it is that with the right circumstances a lot can be done. Plus God’s Grace is there without a doubt, but the hard work such a life entails is massive, and you and your family are making the most of what God has put in your path. You were not boasting – you were sharing. Linda

    suzukimom
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    I wasn’t scared that the blog was going away… I figured you guys had gotten busy!

    As for the kids being hungry… there are a few times, and my dh and I don’t agree on it.  My kids are still young, and I believe that what I’m going to describe is normal.

    If the meal is something they don’t like – they don’t eat much, say they are full, and that is it.  They usually don’t complain about being hungry later (because they know the response – you are hungry because you didn’t eat your [meal] but I’m sure you will last until [next meal/snack].  But I think honestly they often don’t feel that hungry unless they REALLY didn’t eat.   But when I make something they like – they will eat, and eat, and eat, and eat.  My husband works nights, and often gets up while we are eating supper….  When they are just eating, eating, eating… and they ask for more and there isn’t going to be anything left for “dad” – I tell them no, because daddy would like to eat supper.  But my husband’s attitude is if they are hungry, let them eat it.  

    I’ve had to tell him that I am ok with him (or me) doing without if they are still hungry because there isn’t enough – but that I am not ok with them “stuffing” themselves because it is something they like and he goes without.  That they need to consider the needs of others.  

    But there have been times when the kids are still hungry and there isn’t more and I’ve had to tell them that is it.  Usually they have had sufficient, but not to satisfaction.  I hate those times the most!

    my3boys
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    These threads always encourage me to try harder in the kitchen/laundry room, etc.  We don’t eat out much but I do think that what I cook/serve my family could be more nutritional.  Only if dh thought the same…they’re are things he would just not want to give up or add.  He’s actually pretty fit, but still has a aversion to the terms “organic,” “whole foods,” “raw.”  Ugh.  Maybe someday.

    sheraz
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    Okay Lindsey beat me to the recipes for the laundry soap.  =)  I use the Fels Nalpa recipe.  I checked out the blog, ladies, very nice.  I’ll be scoping it out some more.  I liked the cleaning solutions Linda. 

    I am just posting the web page that has my dishwashing soap on it because it was loaded with some interesting facts as well as more recipes for cleaning products (both dishwasher soap and hand dishwashing soap, etc). 

    http://www.moneytalksnews.com/2011/06/08/simple-homemade-dish-detergent/

    I have a really cool book and a friend who is teaching me how to make actual handsoap from lye.  I was impressed with how simple the recipe for castile soap was – just 3 ingredients: water, lye, and a cheaper olive oil.  It will work well for making a liquid dispensing soap for the bathroom sink.  I can’t wait to use it – I have to let it cure first.  =)She also makes cheese and is going to teach me how.

     

    Misty, I wanted to say something here about paper plates – you can save a lot of money not using them.  BUT – I come from a family of 10 (and have 6 in my own now), so I know how hard it is to have to stop and wash every dish for every meal.  You are extremely busy with a large family, a garden, a baby, homeschool, animals and everything else you do.  You do what is easiest for you at this time and don’t feel guilt.  I actually started using them for lunch when I started into daily fulltime school last fall, because, even though the kids help around the house, it was cheaper time -wise to not fuss about the dishes.  And he agreed.  So, use paper plates and enjoy your life.  =)  And, remember you are feeding at least 3 boys more than the rest of us.  I am not really sure that you are wasting your money on much if you are only spending $50 more a week.  If I recall right, several of them are old enough to be hungry teenagers… =)

    I sometimes want to be Robin, then I remember how much HARD work is involved…sigh (I grew up on a farm)  =)  Then I am content to make my little urban homestead…heehee 

    6boys1girl
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    Robin,

    I would love your ice cream cone recipe. That is one of our favorite summer time snacks.

    -Rebecca

    Misty
    Participant

    WOW everyone you have been great and this post went farther and better than I could have imagined.

    I wanted to say no one has offened or being rude to me (some felt they might have). 

    I also wanted to say (just so you know) that my children are by no means without food (just wanted to be sure you got that).  They just can eat 1 or many times 2 helpings (as I cook most meals for 3 times a batch, 2 for dinner and 1 lunch) and still will say they are not full.  Mind you even dh says that’s that.  He feels they eat plenty.

    What I was really looking for was meal idea’s that would help get the tummys more satisfied.  But re-reading my post it didn’t sound like that.  Sorry.

    When we get home next week for I will be looking into the recipes for laundry soap and hand soap (but I like the liquid).  This would save us about 75 a month I bet. 

    With that in mind what do you do for softner?  Or do you not need it with your home aid soap?

    Thanks everyone Misty

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