How many books

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  • Laurie
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    So we all talk about living books and I know this will vary by age and reading ability, but how many books does everyone read along with their history spine?  There are so many good books and I have put together lists that I know we could never accomplish (darn it) so was wondering about a realistic count for the first round (grade school) of Ancients, midevil, early modern, and modern.

     

    Thanks

    Sonya Shafer
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    I usually go at it somewhat backwards. I look at total number of days available for history readings in the year and start calculating. If each chapter of the spine can be done in one day, I subtract one day for each chapter. Then I see how many days of potential history readings I have left, look at number of chapters/days each of the possible books would require, and narrow down my choices that way.

    So, say I have 3 days per week for history readings. That means I have approximately 108 potential history-reading slots (36 weeks x 3 days). Whatever books I select, I should try to stay below that number of readings total. And I schedule my spine first to make sure it gets in there. If my spine has 25 chapters that can be read in one lesson each, I calculate 108 potential readings – 25 = 83 slots left. And so on, filling in the other books that fit (and trying to make sure we don’t spend the whole year on one five-year span of history).

    You can also go at it from the other direction. Total up the number of chapters in all the history books for one time period that you want to read and see how many days per week you would need to do history to cover them all. Hint: If it’s more than 180 (36 weeks x 5 days), you’ll need to cut some.

    Probably not the quick answer you were looking for, huh? 🙂

    Kayla
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    It looks like for my year 1 and younger tag alongside I will have 3 read aloud a a day. That includes he nights we have a bed time read aloud or bible in the morning. How many books…I have no idea some we read once a week some 2 times some are short books.

    Laurie
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    You are right Sonya, that did not help as now I want to squeeze every minute I can into living books as we aren’t required to do 180 days I have even less time!

    So why use a spine in the early years and not just living books.  Looks like the answer will be to wing it for a while and see how it goes.  Some chapters are very short, but some books would take a month or more.  *sigh*  Just too many books.

    🙂

    Laurie
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    Looking at another discussion I found this.  Scheduling Books 

    This would be all the books in a day, but I think this helps.  Still not enough time. 🙂

    petitemom
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    The spine helps to put things together.  I used to plan ahead more ( I don’t seem to be able to get ahead of ourselves anymore). Now I mostly use Guesthollow.com history shelf and choose books (and movies) to go along the time period we study.

    Laurie
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    A part of me wants to forgo using a spine in the first few years and just read lots of living books instead. has anyone else done this? Am I crazy?

     

    RobinP
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    I never use a spine at any age.  Just my preference but I find living books so much more engaging (not that a spine isn’t a living books…just making a differentiation.)  And, for us, reading about a topic in the spine, then in a living books becomes redundant.  But I understand each family is different and not everyone has access to 18,000 books at their fingertips.  That makes a huge difference.

    Melanie32
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    Laurie-I didn’t use spine books either. 🙂

    Laurie
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    Thank you. I feel better.

    Laurie
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    RobinP and Melanie32 I would love to see any book list you have of what you read.  I see some great books, but I think they are too long for the early years and want to forgo on those for now but I don’t want a Eurocentric view of history either and looking at what I have found most are.  Please share!!

    thanks

    RobinP
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    Laurie, I have used TQ since its release in 2001 and own a large percentage of those books, particularly the OOP ones.  She lists books geared for all ages so I just pull the book off the shelf that fits my needs at that time.  I’m in the vast minority in that I don’t really plan.  (I admire folks who can take a book and divide it by a certain number of days to determine how many to read each day, or go by a plan that says, “study this topic now and read this particular book to do it.”  It would simplify choice-making.  But, oh my goodness, I would suffocate. ) But that’s just me.  I will say that it’s much harder to find books that are not Eurocentric, as you said, and I’m not good at being intentional at trying to find them.  I have a Chinese son so I should be.  Another resource you could try for finding books that span many ages and areas is a book of book lists entitled All Through the Ages.  Lots of great choices there broken down by time period, geographical region, etc.  Sorry I’m not more help.

    Laurie
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    Haven’t gone through it all but I just found this on history of China for kids.

    http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/china/

    Kelly Bond
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    I have used living books, as well, without a spine. My children are still young (7 and 10) so time will tell if I need to add some “glue” later on to help them see the bigger picture. But I can also see that many conversations over many years may just be enough. I am hoping so!

    Best wishes!

    Melanie32
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    I used Truthquest in the elementary years for American history and I never used any of the recommended spines. Other years, I just designed my own history course by pulling from different book lists available on the internet and working with what was available at my local public library.

    We tried Story of the World and The Mystery of History and neither could compare to living books so we chunked them. 🙂 Now that my daughter is middle school age, we do use history spines but we still don’t care for the newer resources. We’ve used H.A. Guerber books, M.B. Synge, Genevieve Foster and a few others as spines. Last week I picked up Famous Men of the Middle Ages and am waiting to see how we like it.

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