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  • Des
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    could I use the Young Reader collection for an 10yo. and a 5yo. or are the books to young for the 10yo.?

    sheraz
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    I just got these a couple of days ago and they are great read-alouds for third grade and under, and wonderful independent readers for fluent readers about 4th grade (depending on the child) and up, according to the study guide. I would think that they would be about right for your 10 year old. They are appealing to all ages regardless of reading level if you choose them to read aloud.

    I plan on reading mine to my younger kids, and letting my middle school aged kids pick some to read for fun. I am really excited about all the choices of books – my dh let me splurge and get the big 8 pack cds of ebooks. I am thrilled with all the maps, the timelines, and having the books grouped for me.  I can easily choose my own books using this collection and know that I am not missing the “important” stuff. 

    They are also a wonderful resource to add to the SCM history guides for additional reading. 😉

    Sheraz! Please tell me more about the study guides that come with each set. And I would love to hear more about how you will be using them. (And which ones did you get?)

    We bought the Yesterday’s Classics set when it was on sale and am really beginning to embrace e-books more and more. (And if Doug or any other SCM folks are reading, I look forward to the day when your books are in Kindle format! PDFs just aren’t the same.) I’ve had Heritage History’s sets on my wishlist, but not quite sure how we will use it. 

    Sheraz, are you following SCM history modules and working in the HH books, or doing your own history cycle rotation, or what?

    And Des — I know there are some good reads for your 10yo on the HH set you’re looking at. I wonder if the study guide matierals that come with the CD would help guide you in the selection process?

    And for those who have kids who read on their own, do they have their own Kindles or Nooks? My 7 & 8yo read on a Kindle App on old defunct smartphones, but I do like the idea of someday getting them “real” Kindles with screens that aren’t so tiny. lol

    suzukimom
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    sheraz
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    Here is the link:

    http://www.heritage-history.com/www/heritage.php  You can scroll down on the left and click on the History Curriculums and the Heritage Libraries to see more info.

    @Mysterious Lady in Pink:

    I have been using the SCM Module guides and adding things that we have to them.  I bought the Yesterday’s Classics in September or so and hadn’t really used them until about January.  

    We were using the original SCM Mod 2 that uses Famous Men of Greece as the spine. We weren’t really enjoying because I felt disjointed – I didn’t know how it all fit together.  So I looked at the Yesterday’s Classics and started reading The Story of Greece. LOVED it.  Even recognized the men we’d read about in Famous Men 😉  So then I read The Story of the Greeks, which was also very good – however, it is not as detailed as The Story of Greece.

    I decided to follow the SCM guide for Bible Reading (adding the LDS Old Testament Visual Resources to it – pictures, quotes, study questions to liken the scriptures to ourselves and Discover the Old Testament book from Discovering the Scriptures) and the Geography – adding in DVD’s about those countries and doing the map drill. 

    The HISTORY portion I redid using The Story of Greece as my spine. I listed the chapters (thank heavens for cut and paste capabilities). For additional reading, I listed all the Famous Men of Greece chapters with the applicable Story of Greece chapter. I added in the color illustrations from the original book, coloring pages, art or architechtural pictures, other books, DVDs or YouTube videos, whatever I had that applied to that topic. Then I divided the Yesterday Classics books into the major catagories that they cover in The Story of Greece and listed them as aaddtional reading to be chosen by my kiddos. I even added in the timeline figures from Homeschool in the Woods so that I wouldn’t forget to do our timeline/Book of Centuries.

    I may not use it all, but it is organized on paper so that I can “see” what we have to use for all ages. 😉

    I wrote a blog post about it here: 

    http://mysouldothdelight.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/the-story-of-greece-study-guide/  You can download it and look at it.

    Because I have a daughter who needs to hear it as well as it, I looked up all the YC Ancient Greece books for free audios on Librivox. Here is that list:

    http://mysouldothdelight.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/yesterdays-classics-ancient-greece-books-librivox-audio-books/

    Last night I posted about The Golden Fleece (recommended SCM book) now available as a free audio book (by chapter, not disc):  

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/free-audio-of-the-golden-fleece 

    Everytime I read about a battle or I wished I had a map so I could see what was happening, and I didn’t have one. I also love the color illustrations as a way for my kiddos (one has APD) to focus on while listening to them. I also wanted a specific timeline in one easy to see page.

    Soooo – enter Heritage History. =) They have it all for free online, except the study guide. You can download individual books for $1.99 apiece or read them free on the computer. What I loved is that you can get a CD of each time period for $25 that includes ALL the ebooks, the study guide, all the maps (including outline maps), the timeline dates, the major people, and the books all listed by appropriate reading levels with brief synopsis of each book. They recommend reading core books (comprehensive histories) and picking several other books based on the students interest (biographies, military battles, etc) to round it out. They even have a tracking record of what has been read. 

    They will tell you flat out that they are not trying to compete with other curriculums – since they are really great collections of living books, they explain how easy it is to use them with other curriculums that are more structured if that is your thing.

    I got the Young Readers collection which is aimed at being read independently by a fluent 4th grader. It is a broad introduction (86 ebooks) aimed at introducing younger students to many different people in history. Great for read alouds.

    Then I got Ancient Greece (46 ebooks), Ancient Rome (45 ebooks), British Middle Ages (55 books), British Empire (57 ebooks) curriculums, Early America, Spanish Empire, Christian Europe, and Modern Europe libraries. They did say that they haven’t gone past 1922 in their book selections (public domain cut off).  Haven’t looked at them all yet.  I am still trying to arrange and read stuff for Ancient Rome. However, I already know where to go for additional reading ideas for my kiddos as they find stuff they are interested in, which they do.

    One great thing about HH is that all their books come in two forms – a printable version and an ebook version.

    For Christmas, we got my older kids the cheapest Kindles when we had $25.00 off coupons. They love using them. I am somewhat surprised at how much I enjoy mine. I still like physical books too, though!

    I use the SCM Modules as a great starting point. But I add and tweak to our interests and what we have. =) And since we love history, I try to let us take time to enjoy it.

    Des
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    Thank you ladies!!!  Sheraz, your post was awesome.  I think i’m going to get the young readers collection for both boys as soon as we can swing it.

    sheraz, LOVED your post explaining what you do. Thank you, thank you!

    I am in the process of reading over your blog and some of your posted materials there. So in January you switched to doing the Greece study the way you outlined it? And how long will you spend on all of this new Ancient Greece study? I’m looking at the 2 spines you listed out (read consecutively, not concurrently, right?), and wondering if each chapter listed out is a day, a week, or what? I’m guessing it would be a chapter a day, but then how many days a week are they doing that and is the extra reading just whenever they want or do they have certain requirements — I guess I’m trying to gauge what the day/week looks like (little details) with all you have scheduled out (big picture). And how old are your kids who are doing this?

    OK — you said you bought the cheap Kindles when you had $25 off coupons. Where did you get those?? 

    As you might guess, I’m not entirely satisfied with our history progression and want to use more e-books as well, so your post is so helpful.

    And on a tangent, I didn’t realize you were LDS, so that is cool — I am too! 🙂

    sheraz
    Participant

    @Mysterious – I am LDS! =) How fun! I am PMing you about about the Convention again.

    To answer your Kindle question – I signed up for the Staples emails and they sent them to me last November during the Black Friday sales. Last week I got a coupon for 10% of any tablet. I just watch the sales.  Also, since we can utilize the Kindles for so many things, I am starting to think that they are worth the regular price in a school budget. 😉 We have all our church books, school books, and some fun books on ours. Totally worth it to me.  Plus the kiddos feel so grown-up using it for school, it’s a motivator.  My oldest girls are 13 and almost 12.

    The Story of Greece Study Guide as I have listed it uses 33 chapters of On the Shores of the Great Sea by M. B. Synge.  I had them listen to the chapter while they colored the Ancient Gods and Goddesses coloring book from Dover.  Then The Story of Greece has 107 chapters in it. so a total of 140 lessons. We are doing Bible History twice a week on M and W, then World History twice a week on T and TH. On Friday we do the Geography and Map Drill.

    Technically, this guide would be a years worth of lessons, especially if added specific exam days a la SCM. this also makes it easy to adjust the schedule to allow certain times if you were requiring lots of extra reading.

    Our standard day is to read the chapter and do a verbal, written or drawn narration. Then if applicable, locate it on the maps of Ancient Greece, add the timeline figure, color the Life in Ancient Greece coloring book. We will read/listen to the corresponding Famous Men of Greece story of the men featured in the story – not all chapters have a “men” story to go along with it. That is our family work.

    All the other lists of books are for the kids to choose to read. I would prefer that they read 3-4 during the year about any of the subjects about Ancient Greece. We will listen to A Wonder Book and Tanglewood Tales as corresponding literature read-alouds too. I must mention how much I am enjoying reading both the YC and HH for myself. So cool to be able to read something in the news and think “I know where that came from!” 😉 Even more cool when the kiddos make the connections!

    For me, having the list of options in front of me is the best way to make sure that we are utilizing what we have and will facilitate those rabbit trails we are all so fond of. I may not choose to get too involved in different subjects. It’s okay. The lists aren’t there to make me feel guilty or less than worthy as a teacher. They’re there as a resource if I need or want more. There are some chapters that have more information than others. It is so simple to choose to stretch a lesson out and double up on the less busy ones.

    suzukimom
    Participant

    Lady in Pink… I’m LDS too…..

    suzukimom — yay!! I’m glad you said something. 😉

    sheraz — thank you for the added explanations. I think I’m still missing something: if the two spines make up 140 chapters, and they read a chapter twice a week on T and Th, how does work out to a year? Or are they doing a chapter of the spine daily and then their extra supplemental reading is on T/Th? I’m sorry; I feel like this should be so obvious. I must be missing something when I read through it. 

    I am going to be thinking about how/what I want to do, but I will definitely be using some of your ideas. I would also like to ask to hear more about how you are doing Bible history on M/W and your map/geogrpahy drill on F. I had such great CM habits when my older ones were younger, but now it is all such a distant memory and I am so tired and just floundering.  (insert an “I’m so pathetic” emoticon here)

    Did you actually buy a whole HH collection? I’m debating what to do with the whole e-book thing, but we are definitely going to be doing more and more and lighten the load of hard copy books around here. We are spending the next 10 weeks or so wrapping up some “survey of world history” stuff and then we will be on to a more standard rotation again. 

    And I am wishing we had a Staples in the area! Love that coupon! I wonder if you could use the “tablet” coupon on a Kindle? I really like the Paperwhite after seeing one my niece got for Christmas — so crisp, yet easy on the eyes, and they could read in any light. But I like the price of the base model better. 😉

    sheraz
    Participant

    Well, IF I am doing my math right (and I’ve been caught on here not doing it right Embarassed) – the normal school year is 180 days.  Dividing 180 days by 5 days to get the number of weeks would be 36 weeks.  

    If I am doing world history 2 times a week times 36 weeks, I need to have 72 lessons for Ancient Greece.

    If I am doing Bible History 2 times a week times 36 weeks, I need to have 72 lessons for Bible History.

    If I am doing geography 1 time a week times 36 weeks, I need to have 36 Geography lessons.

    That totals 180 days.

    My Story of Greece plan has 140 lessons. My plan is to work on it until done, but most of those lessons are short enough that I can double them easily – sometimes we read two or three chapters based on interest. Any other reading can be added as individual stuff. If I were to cut anything out of my scheduled plan, it would hands down be On the Shores of the Great Sea. That cuts out 33 lessons right there and brings the total down to 107 lessons. =) One thing I did was burn discs of as many of these books as I could and we listen to them during lunch or quiet time or while driving long distances.

    As for the way I did the Bible and Geography…well I am using Sonya’s Module 2 guide! 😉 All I did was jot down corresponding pictures, videos, and quotes from the OT Visual Resources and the Discovering the OT book.  I am doing the geography just like she scheduled and adding in videos from the library. So when we read about Israel I checked out the DVD about the Holy Lands and watched that. I also found one that took us to several ancient sites in Greece, so we’ve watched that. If you are interested in that, shoot me a PM with your email address and I will send you the PDF. 

    No, Staples wouldn’t let me use the tablet coupon on the ereaders. I asked, lol.  I was buying my mom a Kindle that day. 😉

    sheraz
    Participant

    I meant to say that I plan to just use the book until done. I am not too worried about “calendar” school years as much as I want my kids to understand it, ykwIm? 

    Your math is fine, lol. I was confused by the 72 lessons for Ancient Greece (which is roughly what I assumed) contrasted to the 140 chapter readings for Ancient Greece. But since you had each of those 140 readings listed out with coloring activities or other readings, I just assumed each of the 140 lessons/readings was a separate day. So thank you for the explanation! 😉

    I figured you were using Sonya’s guide for the rest, but I had to check! 

    Thanks so much for all the info — once again! This thread and a few others have given me the shot in the arm I need right now. 

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