Help, I need a curriculum plan!

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  • mamakof4
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    I am trying to figure out what to use that is planned, structured and CM friendly because in the past I have been all over the place picking out my own curriculum and now it is not working and exhausting!

    I am an awful planner, so I would like something to make life simple as possible. I am also on a tight budget. I’ve been considering using either SCM curriculum guide or ambleside. What do you use?

    suzukimom
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    Well, that is a question that could get a debate going!

    so, I’move going to ask a few questions….

    you have 4 kids?  Ages?  Are any fairly independent workers?  Any Learning Disabilities?

    Do you mind ebooks to lower costs?  Is your library great, good, ok, or pathetic?

    are your kids competitive with each other?

    are you drawn to one more than the other?

    that might help me advise a bit for your family, as what is the answer for my family might not fit yours

    caedmyn
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    I mostly use the free guides at charlottemasonhelp.com. Iirc they are derived from ambleside but somewhat simplified and with some more current books. They have daily and term schedules for each year too…can’t remember if those are on the website or in the yahoo group files.

    MissusLeata
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    I love the way the SCM guides are laid out.  Ambleside has a different set of books for each grade, which makes things complicated for me. I like having “family” books for history, Bible, geography and nature study.

    HollyS
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    One big factor between AO and SCM is whether or not you want to combine your DC as much as possible or split them up for more subjects.  SCM combines them as much as possible.   AO contains more public domain books, but I’ve found many SCM books at our library (or they can be easily substituted).  I prefer using a mix of classic and more modern books, so SCM is a better fit for us.

    I have 5 DC (one is a toddler) and have found SCM’s curriculum guide to be very easy to use.  I can’t imagine having them separated into their own history studies.  Other families insist it’s easier to have them split up.  I think a big part of it is family dynamics.

    SCM is very economical.  You can easily substitute whatever resources you currently have into their studies.  We use free classical CDs that my mom gave me for our composer studies.  I often use old calendars for our artist studies.    We often use digital books to save a bit more money or borrow from the library.  I try to invest in materials that can be reused or take more than one year to go through.

     

    mamakof4
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    Ages? well, only 2 are actual school age, they are 9 and almost 8. One is going to be 5 in october, so I guess she would be considered school age too, but I plan to wait till she is 6 for formal stuff.

    Are any fairly independent workers? Any Learning Disabilities? no learning disabilities and they can work fairly independently.

    Do you mind ebooks to lower costs? Is your library great, good, ok, or pathetic? we have a great library, and statewide library access and I don’t mind ebooks, we have a nook.

    are your kids competitive with each other? a little.

    are you drawn to one more than the other? what do you mean?

    In regards to ambleside, I don’t really like the idea of having so many individual things to do. I would love as many combined things as possible, but at the same time I wonder how that works effectively. I would kind of expect children in different grades to do different work. Not sure if it is best or not for them to have very separate work.

    suzukimom
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    Ok, from the answers, I think either AO or SCM could work nicely for you.  AO works better for my family, because my kids do not like doing studies together as a family.  I tried it when my oldest were 8 and 6.  That put them in the same grade range for the hooks. My 8yo started to feel stupid because his sister was doing the same work as him.  The 6 yo felt stupid because her brother did the work better than her.

     

    But a lot of families do Family studies well.  There are the family reads, and then some books for each age range as well to expand the ideas.  Many large families find it works great.

     

    Remember, there are skill subjects that have to be done at the student’s level, and there are content subjects like history, that can be worked on in many levels.

     

    I have 4 kids, with some LD’s, and AO is challenging to do with that mixture too.

    I have done both styles, so can answer more if you like.

    I hope this helped a bit.  If you are leaning more to wanting to combine when you can, then try out SCM.  You can always change your mind in the future.

     

     

     

     

    mamakof4
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    I have a question, if we used AO where would we begin? I worry they’ll have missed out on stuff in previous yrs schedules, especially some subjects seem to continue on into the next grade with the same book.

    Right now we do a lot as a family and my children have also struggled with that. My oldest has felt bothered by her sister doing the same work as her mostly.

    missceegee
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    Other options are Beautiful Feet or EPiKardia.

    I have a question, if we used AO where would we begin? I worry they’ll have missed out on stuff in previous yrs schedules, especially some subjects seem to continue on into the next grade with the same book.

    Do not worry about this. Charlotte would have students join in the middle of books. Cramming things in serves no good purpose.  A classical CM education is challenging, but restful.  My favorite quote by Charlotte,

    The question is not, – how much does the youth know? when he has finished his education – by how much does he care? and about how many orders of things does he care? In fact, how large is the room in which he finds his feet set? and, therefore, how full is the life he has before him?

    I would suggest having at least some family subjects – artist, composer, poet, hymn, folk song studies; Shakespeare; geography; a family read aloud; nature study. They will have separate math and language arts, of course.  That leaves science and history, mainly. These are easily done either way and as content subjects need not be separate. We’ve done years of family studies for history and just this year have done individual history. Both work fine in our family.  Remember that you’re teaching your kids and tailor your program to them. Avoid worrying about testing.  This is the richest education available! I can say without hesitation that I’ve learned more teaching my kids with CM philosophy and methods than I did in my own education through college.

    suzukimom
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    Well, if you are thinking AO, I would join the AO forum to get more specific help.  The history is done 2x, so your kids will not miss any big periods of history or anything.  (And of course, no one ever learns everything in the whole world…)

    When deciding on the level of AO you need to look at the scheduled reads (free reads are often easier) – and also keep in mind there is usually at least one really challenging books to stretch the child.  I’d look at years 2 and 3 for your kids.

    AO does have the ‘riches’ of CM done together.  So stuff like Picture Study, Composer Study, Folk Songs, Nature Study, etc.   Also the moms that do AO with a lot of kids do sometimes combine a couple of the books for kids in years 1-3 (Shakespeare, Parables of Nature, Pilgrim’s Progress are the ones that are often combined).

    My kids do enjoy having their own books.   The older ones (now that we have done it a few years) like seeing a younger sibling reading a book and say ‘I remember that one!’   The younger siblings like looking at what is coming up and sometimes ask ‘When do I get to read _____?’

     

    I have a question, if we used AO where would we begin? I worry they’ll have missed out on stuff in previous yrs schedules, especially some subjects seem to continue on into the next grade with the same book.

    Right now we do a lot as a family and my children have also struggled with that. My oldest has felt bothered by her sister doing the same work as her mostly.

    mamakof4
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    I am so thankful to see all the options for charlotte mason homeschooling with it all planned out. My issue is, I keep overthinking things and worry my kids will miss out on something or won’t learn what they are supposed to when they are supposed to. I am a former public schooling so I have a hard time with this and not comparing to what kids are learning in the schools at my kids’ ages.

    I also hate being tied down to lots of schedules and structure. *sigh* However, as I said before, I got too laid back with zero structure and have felt overwhelmed picking out and planning everything myself. Praying I can make a good decision before summer is over.

    mamakof4
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    Another thing, right now our family is very financially strapped 🙁 So the library and the public domain books are wonderful, but I worry about teaching with vintage material. The books are quality, well written and lovely (and free!) but can you really use them in a modern day homeschool and have success?

    suzukimom
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    I understand the financially strapped.

    So far there hasn’t been an issue that I’ve  seen. There is a bit of outdated things in some of the science books, but not bad, and there are notes on the forum.  In year 2 rabbits were placed in the rodent family, which was true when I was a kid but isn’the now.  In year 4 there was something about volcanoes,  I think it was, that was a theory at the time.  We just discuss how science is always changing and the new info.

    As for knowing stuff when they are ‘supposed to’….well, it is just really arbitrary on when a child needs to know something.  CM does delay a few things.  If you have to test, you can just assume that grammar scores will be low for a while, or spend a couple of weeks teaching to the test.

    mamakof4
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    Thanks for all of your input! Thankfully, we live in a state with no homeschool laws and we don’t have to test, still I did try using a classical book to teach grammar starting in 2nd grade because I felt so weird about them not knowing the definition of a noun lol

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