Grammar or no Grammar

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  • Corrine
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    My DD will be in 4th grade in the Fall. The past 2 years we have done English for the Thoughtful Child 1 & 2. I am unsure what to do in the Fall. Should I do Jr. Analaytical Grammar? I also have Simply Grammar, I was thinking of doing that and then maybe Jr. Analytical Grammar in 5th grade? Or should I not do any grammar at all and concentrate on spelling/dicataion from Spelling Wisdom and just do Jr. in 5th grade? I guess I just feel strange her not really having any formal lessons in the different parts of speech and all the “technical” stuff that goes with grammar. I try to tell myself that she still sees it in books and stuff but if anyone asked her what a verb was or adjective, I she would be lost.

    Any suggestions?

    nebby
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    How often does someone ask you what part of speech something is? Seriously though, I don’t think they need grammar at that age.

    Nebby

    momto2blessings
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    I agree with Nebby. We start Jr AG in 5th. We do use a writing program that teaches some grammar earlier, but I don’t think it necessary at a young age. If you feel at all uneasy with waiting just buy a book of Madlibs and she’ll have fun and know the basic parts of speech in no time:)

    cherylramirez
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    It is strange to do it this way, but I have seen how successful the method is for different types of people so I am willing to try it! (sometimes with my eyes closed!)  We don’t do any formal grammar until the 7th grade.  We used AG with my dd and I am considering for my ds.  it only take a couple months a year for 3 years so it is really not an intrusion and you don’t have to do it everyday for years and years and years.

    Corrine
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    Sigh, I have heard all of this before, it’s just so hard to break away from the norm. If I don’t do grammar I will be doing it with my eyes closed as well :-). Thank you for the suggestion of the Madlibs, I was thinking about that and then forgot about it. I think I have to keep reminding myself that the reason the kids in school do it so young and every year is because it takes that long for them to finally get it. Where as by waiting, hopefully, it will stick the first time?

    Thanks so much!

    cherylramirez
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    Madlibs are wonderful, try this link to make Madlib Senator cards.  It is for Texas, but still funny nonetheless:

    http://www.senate.state.tx.us/kids/MadLib.htm

     

    Bookworm
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    There is a big difference from doing NO grammar to doing a major program.  You can pick a month and make it Noun Month.  Label stuff.  Talk about nouns.  Talk about making them plural.  Etc.  It doesn’t have to be big or fancy.  Take their copywork one day a week and ask them to underline all the nouns.  Put a definition of a noun up and ask the kids questions.  “Is “cat” a noun?  Can you pick it up?  Touch it?  Count it?  Is it a “thing” you can think about?”  (Obviously abstract nouns are the hardest!)  Then next month do verbs.  It can be as easy as that, and will help prepare them for later grammar and for foreign language study.

    Corrine
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    Hummm, I like that idea too, thanks Bookworm!

    Corrine
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    Does anyone know if there is such a thing as Christian Madlibs?

    Bookworm
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    I’ve never seen any.  But I just get the regular books, and pull out ones I don’t like.  There are also online sites:

    These ones, in particular, are pretty clean:

    http://www.eduplace.com/tales/

    http://www.redkid.net/madlibs/

    Run out of these?  Just make up your own—take a story from a book, perhaps, or a short fairy tale, and DIY.  

    HTH!

     

    Corrine
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    Thanks so much, I will check them out!

    retrofam
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    Rainbow Resource has a little book called Homeschool Ad Libs. It is fun, and just like Mad Libs.

    artcmomto3
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    We are in the same boat. I ended up dropping EFTTC 2 at the end of this year bc it was becoming a drag. I am planning to wait until maybe 6th grade and pick up with AG and even skipping JAG. In the meantime, I will throw in madlibs.

    gcbsmommy
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    I use and recommend Intermediate Language Lessons, Part 1, by Emma Serle.  Living Learning Books (livingbookscurriculum.com)sells an enlarged, sprial-bound version which is very convenient (lies flat).  We enjoyed it very much this year (4th grade) with my daughter.

     

    Kristina

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