Frustrated about not fitting in….

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  • I wish there was a feature to post anonymously because…well, I don’t want this associated with me. lol  But I am really struggling with the homeschooling groups in my area. It’s funny because this area has SO MANY homeschooling groups and opportunities! Too many, it feels like. It’s rather overwhelming. Our previous areas had far fewer things, which felt like a negative at times, but …IDK… it worked. 

    I’m just tired of feeling like I don’t fit in with other homeschooling families. I feel like so many of the things that are happening are either cost- or time-prrohibitive, even more so when travel is involved (depending on location and traffic in the metro area). And it seems like just about every group I’ve encountered is waving one of two banners: CHRISTIAN or SECULAR. Yes, it feels like they wave their banners with capital letters. And I don’t fit in perfectly as the “right kind” of Christian, and secular seems to feel too extreme the other way. 

    Even when I get together with others in my attempts to find a good fit for us, it feels people very rarely actually talk about…homeschooling! lol  Obviously these groups must be working for a lot of people, which is wonderful, but I’m just tired of never feeling a part of anything, and my kids haven’t really connected well because we haven’t found a group that we can call our own. 

    I think I was just spoiled in my previous area. 

    And unfortunatley, these 3 younger ones seem to really WANT to do things outside the house with others. But when we do (like today) it feels exhausting, not invigorating or refreshing. 

    Does anyone else experience this? Any advice?

    Or maybe sheraz just needs to move a lot closer. 

    sheraz
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    Oh, Mysterious!  You made me laugh when I saw your last line!  =)  I would love to move closer – we have talked a lot about moving one hour closer for dh’s job, which would make getting together so much easier!! 

    I have the EXACT same feelings you do about this situation. I often feel like I am stuck in the middle of this     “group thing” because of our choices as a family due to food allergies, religion, Charlotte Mason homeschooling, you name it – we’ve got it. So is it us or is it really this way?? lol

    I do have two friends here who are meeting with me once a month in the evenings for a CM mom study thing – we are reading and discussing Karen Andreola’s A Charlotte Mason Companion.  That helps me, but it still doesn’t meet the need that you are describing.  😉 I’m sorry that it is still being so hard for you right now.

    So – you up for a visit to the Science Center, Art Museum, History Museum, Zoo, or ____?? We need a place to let the kids explore, then run around in a confined (relatively) space so we really can talk homeschooling to our little hearts content! =)

    missceegee
    Participant

    Move to Florida and join my group. I think you’d both fit in quite well. A CM group, some purists and some not; Christians from a variety of denominations/traditions; lots of weird foodie people, myself included; all ages of kids with wide ranging interests who generally get along well despite the occ. issue – it really is wonderful! I know that’s not realistic, but perhaps you could build it and invite others to join in. That’s what I have done here. Just one thought.

    I’m sorry you’re feeling alone. Don’t give up. There have to be some like minded people somewhere.

    Christie

    missceegee
    Participant

    That was not meant to sound boastful. It’s late and I probably shouldn’t have shared that in that way. It sounded different in my head.

    QuirkyMama
    Participant

    I hear ya.  My mom pulled me out of a rotten high school in the mid 90’s to homeschool.  At that time homeschooling was established, but still a small group.  Therefore, the group we joined was full of all sorts of people.  We all felt we pretty much had to stick together because there were so few of us.  There were no co-ops, just a weekly gathering of kids playing and moms talking.  They would bring books to exchange or share on occasion, and sometimes we had a “theme” week such as sharing a food from a country, sports day, science projects, etc.  My little brother was a newborn when we started, and just graduated high school last year, so my mom has filled me in on the changes to the now numerous groups in her same area.  To be fair, MOST of the individuals and families are kind, but there has been some sort of slow shift into those homeschooling “camps” you described and while she has maintained some friends through all those years, she does still tell me she longs for the “good ol’ days” sometimes. 

    Ironically, her homeschooling career is done as my brother started college this year but now she is a homeschooling grandma as my oldest started first grade this year.  (And I swore I would never homeschool–but that’s another post.)  We are military, so have been in Germany the last three years.  We have a small base homeschool group, but it is run co-op style with lots of little classes in the morning one day a week.  They are mostly Christian, but inclusive, again, because there are so few homeschooling families here.  But I’ve not really been a part because the co-op in the morning thing didn’t fill any need we have.  It was more of a burden then a benefit.   But (for better or worse) we live on base, so we have neighborhood friends who understand the “military overseas” experience, some who used to homeschool and are totally understanding of our lifestyle. We also have a small, but close, church group.

    BUT we are moving in two months back to the states.  I have started looking into homeschool groups in the area and so far have found three.  Two are exclusive Christian-only groups that make you sign a statement of faith, and one is very and proudly SECULAR.  I really understand in the current cultural climate WHY parents are wanting to have Christian-only groups for their children to spend their early years in.  After some of the tales of homeschool “boat rockers” trying to make things forcfully “inclusive” (in other words, no talking about God of faith), I get it.  But for US, I don’t like the idea of a signed statement of faith, and as a Catholic, there are a few things we don’t agree with so couldn’t sign in good faith anyway.  I also am noticing that, even this early, we homeschool “differently” with CM-ism ways.  No spelling in first grade?  Gasp! 

    I try to limit my Internet time due to personal distraction issues.  But as I wonder if we will ever find a physical homeschool niche, I am glad for the Internet.  This forum and one other in particular help me a LOT.  It helps me see I am not alone and gives me much needed strength to forge ahead, especially when I have doubts about how we’re “doing homeschool”, like I did big time over Christmas break.  Yes, we are still human and need real, live, human interaction, but it might just be that season of life where my “live” relationships aren’t homeschool related.  I guess we’ll see in a couple months!

    Missceegee, I didn’t find your post deflating.  It is actually good to know that kind of group can and does exist somewhere.  Who knows?  Maybe those of us in the earlier stages of homeschooling will be called to lead a group like yours in our areas when we have a little more experience under our belts.  We’ll be contacting you for advice! 😉

    ~Nicole

    jeaninpa
    Participant

    We have moved often, and sometimes it just takes a long time to find a niche.  We’ve been here for three years, and I feel at home now, but some of my kiddos are still st struggling to find good friends who they feel comfortable with here.  I keep reminding myself to pray for that and trust that God will provide exactly what is best.  

    sheraz
    Participant

    Christie, I didn’t take it as boastful. I want to be you when I grow up 😉 – your co-op always sounds so amazing! I know that we both would love to join your group!

    I think that the real problem here is that there are lots of people scattered out in our area, but to be realistic, for many of us the distance is prohibitive…I live 2 hours from Mysterious. So when we meet up, it literally takes an entire day – if I am going to the city I try to make it worth my time in other ways as well – like shopping at Whole Foods and a couple of other stores that I don’t have access to where I live.

    Another consideration is the money – gas is expensive, food is too, and it is hard when we really shouldn’t eat out. (We shouldn’t really eat the food I take, but it is much better than the restaurants.) The drive/time for me isn’t really a big deal – we listen to audio books and take some work. But I really couldn’t afford to do a weekly trip.

    This got me thinking, though, that I know at least 3 families who are using CM methods (or trying to) besides Mysterious and myself…I am wondering if we could commit to one day a month and having something planned in the city (or somewhere) together…there would be at least 18 children to get together. I will email you, Mysterious!

    suzukimom
    Participant

    I’m in the same boat – although I haven’t really done that much with the homeschool groups around here (no car during the day etc…) – but the few things we went to we didn’t really feel like we fit in that much…

     

     

    jmac17
    Participant

    We have a similar challenge.  The organized groups just haven’t worked for us yet.  Sometimes it’s that there is no one that my kids click with, sometimes it’s the statement of faith, sometimes it’s that they meet right in the middle of naptime (I have a home daycare, so naptime is fairly structured for the sake of the children’s parents.) 

    What has worked is that we have connected with several families through our local yahoo homeschool group.  After organizing several individual playdates with many different families, about 5 or 6 families have come together as friends.  One friend had posted on the general yahoo group asking who was interested in learning about Charlotte Mason, and we had a book discussion going for a while.  That has fizzled out, but we do still get together for park dates, field trips, art activities and such.

    I find that if I take the initiative to plan activities and then tell people what we are doing, others often join us.  No one else seems inclined to take the lead, so I have to make the effort myself.  For example, I’ve been taking my children ice skating every week.  I’ve been announcing it to others for a few weeks.  By the third time, this week we had 3 other families join us, as people got organized, found skates, overcame illnesses, etc.  In the summer, I just plan my own playground days and keep letting everyone know when and where we’ll be.

    It would be nice to have something more organized, and hopefully we will find that ideal group yet, but for now this is allowing us to get out and develop friendships.

    Joanne

    I love all these posts, you guys. Thank you. (And Christie, yours was great! no worries.) Reading over some of what you all said, I realize several aspects of my problem. 

    1. stuck in the past: about 14 years ago I had a run of …idk… maybe 5-7 years where we started and had an amazing CM group in a small community, with many similarities to what Christie described. A core group of 6 or so families, various ages, getting together for really meaningful discussion of the 6 volumes, nature study, just wonderful support and like-minded people. It was a magical time, in so many ways. The “perfect storm” of all that I needed and wanted. We appreciated it so much at the time, but as the years have passed I realize much more just how uniquely special it was. But as wonderful as it was, I am left feeling (based on my other experiences and general cynicism, lol) that things will never be that good again. So maybe I’m not embracing all the good things in the present as much as I should be. Instead I’m like that elderly person who is stuck reminiscing about the “good old days” and the “glory years” knowing that they will never come again. Oh  my, how depressing is that?? I have these wonderful young children with me NOW and might have another 13 years of homeschooling ahead of me! I need to live my life appreciating the past, but also feeling like the best is yet to come!

    2. old and tired. lol  OK, so I’m not really that old, but I FEEL it! lol  I’ve been homeschooling for 15+ years. There’s an ebb and flow in how things go, but my own level of exhaustion (in all areas) has certainly been taking a greater toll as the years go by as the cumulative effects of that exhaustion become increasinly manifest.

    3. some other personal insights that are probably better off not shared publicly. 😉

    SO… where does this leave me? In earlier years I was always the organizer, the motivator for encouraging others and getting groups and activities together. And a part of me wants to do that still, but… well, see point #2.  The cynicism of my youth (carefully cultivated by my dad for many years) was something I fought to overcome for a decade or two, to feel but I have really let cynicism get a strong foothold in my life again in more recent years with various life events unfolding and… well, really, does it matter why? I don’t want to be that person.

    I need to work on reprioritizing on many levels — what I do with homeschooling at and away from home, how I nurture myself instead of neglecting what will really nourish me emotionally, physically, spiritually. Maybe I will always be this tired — maybe that’s just part of getting older — but yeesh I’m only in my 40s so I think more than anything my exhaustion is a result of poor decisions leading (at least in part) to my personal neglect.

    None of this really addresses my feelings of not fitting in here, but I know I can have a “sunshinier” outlook and more peace and contentment. I deserve that. My family deserves that. I recall having a conversation wtih sheraz about this 4 months ago (?) and… I realize that I’ve done very little, if anything, to make any real changes. 

    Anyway. I really enjoyed reading all of your posts and thoughts and situations (and sheraz emailing). Thank you all for sharing. 🙂

     

    Kathleen
    Participant

    I don’t have any advice, but thought I’d chime in with a “me too!” The first place we homeschooled was overseas, so we had a very small homeschool group, but we were very tight because we were all in the same boat. We were military wives, we were all new to homeschooling, we were living in a foreign country. There was no discrimination based on religion or curriculum or philosophy, we were all just happy to have someone to share the journey with and explore our new surroundings with. I think I was really spoiled by that being my introduction to homeschooling groups. Now that we are back stateside I have joined four different groups but just cannot find my spot! It is very frustrating, and my poor kids are lonely, they keep asking when we can go back overseas! I am going to just keep on swimming. I know if I just keep showing up, and keep pursuing relationships eventually something will click with someone, 12 moves have taught me that at least!

    thepinkballerina
    Participant

    I feel the same way. We have a co op we enjoyed but they didn’t meet up this year. They plan to next fall. We miss it greatly. So for now, instead of joinging the secular group we meet up with a couple close friends who live nearby praise the Lord, and we’ve planned activities in our home. This Fri we are sewing together with our girls. Next month possibly sketching. We all feel like outcasts but feel we have a bond with each other. Common beliefs in religion and child rearing. I also have a neighbor 2 doors down who homeschools her son, and we get together with when we have time to just drink tea and chat. I’m sure you’ll find a likeminded friend. Just pray!

    ServingwithJoy
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    I know how you feel…I think we all do to some extent, or we wouldn’t be so grateful for this forum! We have a good co-op here (a nice blend of active, but not high pressure; accepting but not whacky :-). Anyway, there are still areas that we don’t completely fit in.

    Of my very best homeschooling friends, one uses the state sanctioned, teacher-led homeschool program, one is Rod and Staff and not much else, and two recently put their kids into Christian schools. But I love them all! I think I kind of started looking for commonalities instead of seeing the differences as some point.

    Years ago, we were praying about another homeschool group situation (not positive for us) and a church situation. I felt that the Lord told me very clearly deep down, “Stop trying to fit into other people’s boxes. I made you an ‘out of the box’ person – you aren’t GOING to fit in – and that is okay!” From that time on, I felt that I really started loving others and myself more, because I just let go of that expectation that we would think alike in every area.

    I am old and tired, too ;-). This world makes us weary, and homeschooling is 24/7 all over your life. But I will be praying for you to find loving, supportive friends. It really only takes one to lift you up and help you stand when you are ready to fall. Don’t be afraid to ask for help, either. We all need help from each other, and one day you will be the one to encourage and support your friend.

    God bless!

    Claire
    Participant

    Ha! Ha!  Don’t come to New Orleans …. it’s full of small clicks that are very focused on excluding those that don’t fit their ideas and less on looking for things we all have in common.  There are some great folks here too.  I should’t paint it as all bad.  Good, interesting, generous, fun, intelligent folks.  But I’ve never seen a harder place (or heard of one) to get folks to come together, work together, to share and focus on commonality instead of differences. 

    There are a handful of us hoping to make it better and working hard at doing so …http://www.NOLAHomeschoolers.com  So maybe over time this umbrella organization will make some progress with all those little groups and make it a more congenial environment?

    I feel your frustration and lonliness and everything else.  It’s tough not to have good groups of homeschoolers.  I miss my little rural Florida environment.  And to think there I was crying about how small it was and how little opportunities we had.  Hmph!  Maybe the grass is always greener … New Orleans is amazing in terms of opportunities that need to be taken advantage of … I’ve done more with the kids here in a year and a half than all 3 years in Florida.  It’d just be cooler if homeschooling were more popular and the groups would be more open to working together. 

    I agree too with the sentiment shared in this thread that a few good homeschooling friends can make all the difference.  Then you get those fun gatherings in your homes, sharing of lessons, and overall feeling of community.  It can just be super tough to find that sometimes.  And in some places.

    I’m typing this really fast so I hope the intent comes across correctly. 

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