? for those who raise chickens?

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  • Misty
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    I am wondering how long a chicken will continue to lay eggs?  What important things would be good to know for a first time family?  And is the idea of an egg every other day what it about averages out to be?  What are some of your best layers?

    Thanks we just got our coop up and started wtih a mix of chickens and thought I’d see what you guys think or feel about them.  I LOVE my chickens we have just a little mix of 15 chickens and my dh already sees that I’m absesed with buying more.  Oh, and we have 2 ducks and 2 mallards.  I’m loving my poultry little farm.  Misty

    RobinP
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    If these are pullets you have (those who are just starting to lay) they should lay all winter and all next summer.  Then sometime next fall-ish they will probably molt (breeds differ on when and for how long) and will probably lay little if at all next winter.  That’s why most people start a new batch each spring.  You can put a light in their coop to stimulate them to lay but we don’t do that.  It stresses the birds.  I like giving them a break.  The longer we farm, the more I realize how seasonal life is.  

    If you have 15 hens, you should get an average of about 10-12 a day.  We have 18 laying right now (our pullets are just starting so I don’t really count those.)  Sometimes we get a dozen, sometimes 17 but usually we’ll get about 14.  We have a mixture of breeds as well.  All of ours lay brown eggs, except for one pullet that’s supposed to lay green eggs.  She hasn’t started laying yet so we’ll see if she’s what they told me she was.

    Love my chickens, too.  They’re so fun to watch, especially when they pop straight up in the air for a bug.  Try throwing scrap veggies out to them and watch them go for it, chasing each other all over the place.  Hysterical. Laughing

    Rachel White
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    How many years one lays depends on if you force them to lay through the winter unnaturally. If left to lay according to seasonal changes, a hen can lay for many years. Egg laying drops off as the light of day dwindles. If you artificially light your coop at night they will lay more eggs but it will burn out your hens sooner. I don’t know your climate, but here in N. Ga. I only keep the heat light on on the coldest of nights (mid-20’s or lower), and with eight I don’t know if I can drop lower before turning it on since we have mostly Buff Orps and 2 Barred Rocks which are the bigger ones (and considered to be the two top most docile). Chickens can produce quite a bit of heat together, standard breeds especially, so it depends on the severity of your climate and what kind of breeds you own. 

     Also, their diet is different from season to season, too, which affects laying. I mix our own food, plus they forage and have 2 other runs for alternating (which I must seed soon). Heavy laying in Spring, Summer and fall requires different caloric, calcium and protein needs than in Winter. I refuse to have GM corn and soy (GM or organic), cottonseed and animal by-products as exists in non-organic feed, in my feed, so I buy 50 lb. bags from a local organic farm, split it among buckets and mix it myself. Ours get tons of scraps and you can also plant Fall plants to feed them during the Winter, like cover crops and greens. Mine adore marigolds, nasturniums, clover and basil; which are still producing here, not to mention the other edible “weeds”, many which have medicail qualities for us and the chickens, too. In the Winter when they are in the coop more, I use a suet holder, one of those cheap green wire ones, and stuff it full of winter greens, hang it in the run and they go to town! I also give them my bean juice, from soaking my beans overnight, the water potatoes and squash are cooked in and on our hot days (and even some in Winter) whey and water mixed together; plus kefir and curdled raw milk (I set it out for 4 days to make curds and whey for them!); they also drink natureally fermented sauerkraut and pickle juice; all of which increases their good bacteria and keeps them healthier. I want my dd to start a cricket farm for them for Winter, but we’re still trying to figure that one out (she loves bugs, it’s just a matter of where to keep them). I’m always searching for more self-sufficiency and less buying. I’m going beyond your question….sorry, I get excited! We enjoy them so much.

    How well they handle Winter is also according to breeds, which is why I got the Buffs and Barred Rocks, in addition to temperament, and being meat and egg birds. They are good layers naturally through the Winter without artificially pushing it. Other breeds are not so suited. In the summer I had at least an egg a day from each hen, some of them more. I have a couple that are extra good layers and some not from both breeds (one Barred called Bort-Bort due to her noises my dd thinks she makes, Top Hen and Goldie, both Buffs, lay the most often, one Buff rarely lays and the other Barred every other day or so, those I want to cull- yummy), but the average is 24 or so hrs., but in Summer it was more often and some would lay clutches of 3 or 4 at a time. We notice that the best foragers are the ones with the most eggs layed. I froze (with a little salt into ice cube trays) all my extra eggs from summer (at one point I had 6 dozen eggs in my fridge!) for winter uses in cooking only; I’ll use the ones they lay for fresh eating. I try to follow seasonal eating designed by G-d. You can freeze whole eggs, just yolks or just whites; some I know dry them.

    I recommend the heritage breeds; modern breeds are bred for market, mass production, laying too much, burning out and getting plumped up for butchering at 8 weeks instead of  16-21; not the foraging capabilities and longevity that chickens have traditonally been. I esp. recommend Buff Orpingtons, esp. as your rooster as they are protective but are trustworthy when you have children. Stay away from Rhode Island Red roosters; hens good, males not for a family. Plus, you only want 1 rooster per 10-15 hens, too. I’d get more Barred (or any in the family of Plymouth Rocks), too. Again, check for climate acclimation, too.

    Don’t forget your DE in the coop (the food grade kind), mixed with the pine shavings (don’t use cedar!) and in their feed, if you choose to make it or add to it if you buy it as it is a natural anti-parasitic.

    I recommend getting all the info. you need at http://www.backyardchickens.com/ and joining their forum at the beginning of your endeavor. Also check out the good books available on the subject.

    Here’s a breeds chart:http://www.backyardchickens.com/breeds/breed-chart

    It has been recommended on the BC site to try to narrow down which breeds you want and try to keep from a having too much of a managerie.

    Hope I’ve answered your questions; from “the snack lady” (that’s me); who between the compost and chickens, food seldom gets wasted!

    Rachel

    Misty
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    Ok.. great answers ladies.

    So if I have 14 chickens in there now and all but 5 were hatched this spring they should idealy be laying about 10-12 eggs a day.  But I’m only getting 4-5 average?  Does that mean maybe A) Someone lied to me and they are older? B) They are just not ready to lay yet? C) I’m not feeding them right?  We go to the local mill and get food ment for laying chickens.

    We have 2 Rhode Island Reds, 5 Red Stars(these are the only ones I was told that were 1yr old the rest are spring chicks), 1 Buff Braham Bantam, 2 Phoenix, 1 Americana, 2 Black Astralorp & humm who am I missing?? Well anyway. 

    Yes we have found our chickens love our ends of things like apples, lettuce, and the rape we grow in the yard for the animals. 

    Thanks gaina Misty

    RobinP
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    If all but 5 are pullets, then they are probably not laying yet.  When they start laying, their eggs will be very small (and cute.)  We got our new batch in mid-April and we’re just now starting to get eggs, usually only 1 or 2 pullet eggs a day.  Also our older ones are dropping off.  A couple are already molting.  I’d say give them some time and in the next month or so you should see  your pullets stepping up to the plate.  Last year our pullets didn’t start laying until mid-October.

    tandc93
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    We’re waiting for our first eggs too!  We would have had some by now if our neighbor’s dogs hadn’t killed our first batch.  He gave us the money to replace them and we got them at the end of April, so they’re 5 months old now.  Hoping to get some eggs before winter hits.  We have 15 rhode island red hens and a few roosters.  I know we need to deal with the # of roosters, but I don’t want to!  🙁  

    Rachel White
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    The roosters are aweful yummy; and much better than having them start attacking each other as they mature. You’ll have no problem butchering them if that starts to happen. Using a killing cone with a bucket underneath makes it a quite neat and efficient process. Just remember they have a purpose as livestock; they bring pleasure and nourishment. You take care of them so they take care of you.

    Rachel

    tandc93
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    I know…..LOL  The first one I’d consider killing (b/c it’s my oldest son’s and he said we could) is the smallest!  The least nuisance, the least feed, and the least meat!!!  The hard part is the first one we got is my daughters and it’s a gorgeous barred rock.  We might do the rhode island red one, b/c I don’t anticipate hatching our own chicks, probably just order a batch in the spring.  If we did those the bantam and the RIR, we’d be down to 2–the barred rock and the surprise one from the nursery–I think we figured out it was a chinese shanghai (?), which was funny considering we have two chinese daughters and the company we got them from didn’t know that!

    So would getting it down to 2 be ok?

    RobinP
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    I dunno…We have 2 roosters.  They’ve almost killed each other twice.  We had to separate one into our “chicken hospital” aka, dog crate until it recovered.  It’s also hard on the hens unless you have several. 

    Rachel White
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    One is really sufficient for 10-15. This is how we chose our Big Mr. Buff as our roo; he was the one who is the most alert and aware of the surroundings, the most considerate (he always let the girls eat first, he’ll stand there posing while they eat; doing a taste test then stepping aside and making his ‘call’ to come, his temperment (protective, not aggressive) and of course, he’s gorgeous!).

    The easiest way for us to butcher them was naming them b y their intended purpose; in our case we has 2 males-Chicken Salad and Roast. So once we decided who was going to get it, we started calling them by those names.

    Why don’t you separate the smallest and fatten him (not with too much corn and no soy) but in other, healthier ways. He’s probably smallest becsue he’s low on the totem pole of hierarchy. Get him alone and maybe that’ll do it.

    I’ll check back in again in a litle bit about laying.

    Rachel

    tandc93
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    We have 15 hens.  And the little one is a bantam, so not a whole lot a fattening to do!  But I do want to put him out of his misery.  I know he’s not happy in there as he’s hen pecked b/c they’re all bigger than he is.  I can probably get down to 2 roosters.  Hate to get rid of the RIR, but Jacob is our pet caretaker and lover and he is attached to “Featherlegs” the chinese one.  I think the barred rock is definitely the most aware and “roosterlike”, but man, he’s the biggest and would give us a couple meals!  LOL  Since I’m not planning on hatching any, I guess we don’t need the RIR….but he’s pretty too.

    RobinP
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    Oh you sound so much like me!  Laughing  Even when I know it needs to be done, I get the “yeah, buts.”  I know we need to get rid of one of the roosters.  Yeah, but…  I know we can’t milk 4 cows and need to sell the two heifers.  Yeah, but…  And we still have them all and will have 2 more calves in the spring.  Maybe when we’re actually milking 4 cows in the snow and rain, I’ll feel differently and it will be easier.  We do need to get rid of one of our roosters, though.  He does nothing but eat and protects the hens not at all.  Silkie is our good rooster.  He protects his little harem and clucks all around, digs up food for them, etc. 

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