English For the Thoughful Child

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  • amandajhilburn
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    I just wanted to brag on these books for a moment. I ordered volumes one and two for my kids, and am very impressed. It is much more challenging than I had thought it would be, and it really makes them think. It really helps with writing at this age too. I am very pleased with both books.

    Thanks SCM team! 🙂

    Misty
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    what were you using before?  If anything.  And if so what did you like/didn’t you like that made you decide to switch.  Can you also give a brief summary of these new books.  Thanks Misty

    amandajhilburn
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    Well…I have used several different things in the past (First Language Lessons (Well-Trained Mind), Abeka Language (1st grade), Winter Promise LA (2nd & 3rd grades/did not finish and got a refund), and most recently Queen’s Language Lessons (okay, but did not fit into our plan/schedule).

    Queen’s had beautiful full color pictures for the picture studies, and was easily understood by my children, but it was a little too light. The copywork was also not enough for us and we use Bible verses for copy work anyway. We skipped the copywork and zoomed through the workbooks. It was just not enough meat.

    EFTC is meatier, in my opinion. I ordered Vol. 1 for my son (2nd grade/ age 7) and Vol. 2 for my daughter (3rd grade/ age 9).

     Vol. 1 starts with explaining what a sentence is, having them copy some sentences, and then shows examples of incomplete sentences.

    Then lesson 2 talks about statements and has an exercise for the children to write statements about the sun. For example: Write a statement that tells where the sun rises.  My son felt like he had really accomplished something when he was able to write his own sentence about the sun. I had to explain about the rising of the sun and all that too, so we learned a lot in one little sentence. In writing this one sentence we also had to remember to start with a capital letter, spell the words correctly, and end with a period.

    Lesson 3 is an oral composition exercise. Lesson 4 teaches about questions and they must answer questions in complete sentences for the exercise. Lesson 5 is a poem to memorize and lesson 6 is a picture lesson with questions to answer. Later on it gets into how to write a paragraph, writting a letter, addressing an envelope, capitalization, nouns, dictation sentences, quotation marks, and commas with quotation marks.

    Vol. 2 has a lot of the same things, but adds more parts of speech, more quotation exercises that are more complicated, plural and possessive nouns, homonyms, and writing titles of poems, books, etc.

    We are planning to begin Learning Language Arts Through Literature soon and I was going to use EFTC in the meantime. However, these lessons are so good and so short that I may use both! EFTC seems to really help with composition. My children need that extra help right now. Other “grammar” programs that I have tried do not make children think this much and have to compose sentences like this. I really like it.

    Misty
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    thank you for responding.  It’s like you and I are in the same boat.  I like LL very much but we don’t use the copywork either (do other things) and the lessons are short which is nice, but almost 2 short.

    I will have to look into this> AH I did something to my keys by holding the shift key? Now it’s working.. ok… do they write in these books or do they have to do it on a different piece of paper?  Also, is there an answer key for those of us who don’t know the answers?

    Now when are you planning to shift to LLATL?  You are using EFTC in 2 & 3 grade now correct. 

    Thanks for this post it’s exactly how I’m feeling.  Love the LL pictures, etc.  But we do that as a family also.  And it’s funny I haven’t re-ordered and it’s been a month now.  Almost like I just can’t do it.  Thanks for this post again.,

    Laura.bora
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    That sounds just like what we are using.  We are using Primary Language Lessons by Emma Serl.  It too has picture study (although the pictures in this book are in black and white), copy work and dictation, memorization, and simple grammer and composition.  They go over things like the difference between two, too, and to, has and have, writing letters and addressing envelopes, paragraphs, plurals,contractions and more.  The lessons are short but really get you thinking and writing/narrating well.

    Ours is a hard cover book that you copy the sentences onto another sheet of paper so the book can be used with multiple children.  And from what I remember, it was fairly cheap too.  I believe I picked it up on Amazon for under $10.

    amandajhilburn
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    They can write in the books for some of the exercises, but some call for an extra piece of paper.

    No answer key that I am aware of, but the lessons are very self explanatory. Well, except for things that are questions for the child to answer like, “Were does the sun set?” The introduction to the teacher (at the beginning of the book) says to use those times to help the child research and find the answers. If you don’t have a book at home to find the answer, you could easily do an internet search.

    We are using them now (2nd and 3rd grades). My daughter has begun LLATL this week along with EFTC Vol. 2. We do LLATL daily and EFTC 2 days a week. My son does EFTC 3 days a week and Explode the Code books for phonics daily. This is just what works for us. EFTC could easily be used alone in 2nd and 3rd grades. My daughter is just needing more things to do. She is doing LLATL for 4th grade and it is going to be a good fit for her. I don’t know if I will use it with my son or not. If I do he will not start it until next school year. 🙂

    Hope this is helpful!

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