Copywork to transcription to dictation – AND Cursive training?

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  • My DS9 and DS7.5 are doing copywork daily (printing) and I can see this needing to continue for quite some time. We only began hs’ing the CM way six months ago, and so the exposure to copywork has been pretty minimal. My eldest is now 9 and in theory we could move to less copywork and more transciption and then dictation, but somehow I feel the lack of exposure to copywork means we should stick to this for now. But how much longer for a 9 yr old? How do we truly know when a child is “done” with copywork and moves to dictation?

    The challenge goes further: He IS nine and wants to learn cursive because it’s more “grown up.” DS7.5 of course wants to keep up with big brother so he’ll want to learn cursive too. I just worry that learning cursive – working at cursive daily as I’m sure you have to – alongside our daily manuscript copywork might be a bit much. It essentially doubles the “seatwork” time on that subject, right?

    How have others dealt with this?

    – When you are teaching cursive, do you move to very short passages of copywork so they can do it in cursive? Put aside the idea of longer passages of text to copy?

    – Or, is it better to use a workbook for cursive and let just them work a little, letter by letter on cursive, and keep their true copywork as the longer text passages, done in manuscript.

    I just seem to know so many kids who “learned” cursive but then continued doing all their written work in printing anyway and I’m not sure why?

    When I started writing this, I was starting to see the light on this. Now I think I’ve confused myself a little, lol.

    Help and suggestions most welcome, thanks! Andi

    sheraz
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    Have you seen the new SCM books??  Just released!   They might help you with some transition.

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/books/a-childs-copybook-reader/

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/books/print-to-cursive-proverbs/

    There is another thread as well talking about this (I think it starts about the end of the first page):

    http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/spelling-wisdomfirst-time-user-copywork/page/2

    Maybe those can help “un-confuse” you.  LOL

    MamaSnow
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    I had my dd work through a cursive workbook (about 5 mins per day) while continuing her regular copywork in print. Now that she is just about done with the workbook, I plan to transition her using cursive for her copywork. We’ll probably go back to short sentences for awhile and then work back up to longer passages.

    Jen

    Yes, thanks Sheraz I’ve just seen them, how perfect! Still would love to hear from anyone who is doing copywork and cursive kind of as two different “subjects”, i.e. a child doing longer passages of copywork in manuscript (in order to keep learning from the longer more detailed text passages) alongside letter formation and short passages in cursive, and how it went.

    But hopefully the print-to-cursive book has some great selections and this will get us started!

    Missed your post earlier, Jen, thanks! That’s exactly what I was thinking. I guess keeping each to the 5 mins would be very important. And your DD didn’t complain about the extra workbook? Or, did the cursive start so simple, i.e. just with letters, that it didn’t seem like extra work to her?

    thanks again!

    Andi

    suzukimom
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    Well, as he WANTS to do cursive… then I wouldn’t think he would complain about it… I think it is quite common to do print copywork as well as learn cursive, until ready to do copywork in cursive

    MamaSnow
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    We started cursive at her request, so she was excited and happy to do it. We didn’t always do a full page in the workbook, usually only 1 or maybe 2 lines, so it’s always been very quick and simple. (I am a firm believer in CM’s short lessons and slow-but-steady approach!) It started with just letters, and then later single words. We are into the last few pages now which are full sentences, so I think it will make a good transition into copywork.

    (For what it’s worth, we used New American Cursive, although if SCM’s new Proverbs Print to Cursive book had been available when we started, I might have done that instead! It looks great.)

    HTH some,

    Jen

    Ah, thanks Jen, I was looking at New American Cursive as well. I love the looks of SCM’s new copybooks but I do wish they were available on this New American Cursive — maybe sometime in the near future, hint, hint!


    @suzukimom
    – thanks you are right…his choice, should mean a good attitude (I hope!)

    Andi

    suzukimom
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    And I want the whole series… In italics!

    teachme2learn
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    I’d love Italics too.  Smile

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