Can we talk high school Chemistry, please?

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  • blue j
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    OK, so I thought I knew what I was going to do for dd, 15, for this coming year in regard to science.  I had planned on using the Chemistry 101, which she really likes, adding in real living books, and using experiments from Apologia Chemistry to get a well rounded program. NOTE: DD will use Apologia, but she likes the visual aspect of the 101 science series and learned so much.

    I did something like this with the Biology 101 program, and it was fine.  But, I’m more comfortable with biology than chemistry – I think it’s the whole possibility of exploding experiments that bothers me a touch, even when I took it in high school, it bothered me.  Consequently I didn’t really get nearly as much from my chemistry as I could/ should have. But, I digress…

    I have checked out NOEO science which looks intriguing, but pricey.  And, if I want more explanation, then I’m going to end up using the Apologia Chemistry book anyway, which I have in the other room. 

    Queens HS Chemistry has the experiment portion, but doesn’t really use the math part, which is a necessity for a true Chemistry course.

    Real Science 4 Kids doesn’t have the high school edition complete; this is also an expanded version of their Middle School science.

    As I mentioned above, I want the living books with the experiments which needs to include the math, and, if possible, includes the DVD visual of Chemistry 101 to introduce each area.  Is that even a possiblity?  Is my original plan the best option for us?  Sigh.  If I were better at Chemistry, I’d just write my own curriculum and be done with it.

    TailorMade
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    We have been using Chemistry 101 with living books and referring to other Chemistry reference books along the way. There haven’t been any dangerous experiments, but there has been a lot of learning going on at our house. I can now understand things I couldn’t comprehend in my highschool chemistry class over a quarter century ago.

    I vote for Plan A!

    🙂 Becca<><

    Bookworm
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    I have JUST what you need.  You can use the visual part of Chem 101 if you like, use the Apologia text or any other basic chemistry text for further explanations and math, (you can even use a used one from online if you want,) and what you need to provide the experiment component is MicroChem.  The experiments are solid, well explained, nothing explodes :’) there are answers for you in the back of the book, they are thoroughly tested, they have TERRIFIC customer support, there are enough chemicals to use for one or two following children (you’d just need to add the student lab book).  My second child is completing these right now, and it has worked like a dream.  They experiments are much more rigorous than the ones in the Apologia text and include all the math work and graphing.  Also you might look at Khan Academy for more video if you needed, they are VERY well done.  Two MicroChem courses just about done here, two great successes!  I even once had trouble, while doing a titration experiment–the bottles weren’t giving out consistent-sized drops.  I emailed the company, they gave me some tips and overnighted me more bottles, which worked fine.  I highly recommend these folks, this would make an excellent high school level/college prep course.

    my3boys
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    @Bookworm, are these the kits sold at homesciencetools dot com?? If so, would you mind sharing which ones you’ve used?? Are they specific to the text/lesson or grade specific?? I’m browsing their site and it looks like you could get some for elementary grades as well.

    Sorry to hijack the thread, but I could use more science kits. They do make it easier to do experiments.

    Thanks in advance.

    Bookworm
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    Just the MicroChem kit is sold there, under the “Other Curriculum Kits” tab.  They are designed to go with a number of high school chemistry courses, from Apologia to Bob Jones to Alpha Omega + more.  They are definitely intended as a high school level accompaniment to a text.  They come with a guide recommending when to do which experiment with each different text; also, the Apologia text is cross-referenced and says “Do MicroChem Experiment # whatever” right in the text.  The other kits at Home Training Tools are made by different companies and I don’t have experience with most of them. 

    my3boys
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    Thank you, that is very helpful.

    livken
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    Blue j,

    Could you elaborate on how you supplemented Biology 101. I got that for my ds 16 this next year. I do have the Apologia text also.

    Thanks,

    Olivia

    Misty
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    Thanks everyone I just added some notes to my science for high school. This was a wonderful and simple find!

    blue j
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    Thank you Becca and Bookworm.  I will have to check out the MicroChem kit.

    Olivia, I took the Bio 101 and printed out and bound both the guide and the accreditation guide at Staples so I could see the whole picture of where it this program would go.  After looking it over, I added my own items to the guide.  To make this a lab course I used the Apologia Biology as a guide, though I rarely picked it up other than to insert some of the experiments in at the appropriate time. I also tried to make this even more CM than listed, though it’s not really meant as such in it’s original state, it has sparks of CM. 

    Where the guide called for books both juvenile and non, I simple had a list of books for my student to choose from, making sure that they were living books in nature.  I had my daughter do narrations from that. We also viewed several of the very well done videos from various sources for the topic at hand as well. 

    Then when talking about the various animals, I had my daughter make a notebook with pages for each of the areas studied.  So for Avian, she placed the various kinds of birds and insects one guidebook subheading at a time.  It is kind of like a bug collection only with pictures and of all of the animals.  She also has the scientific name of the animals pictured written below. 

    I had her do both virtual dissections and actual dissections. She drew and labeled the interal parts of  the animals that she had chosen.  She also drew and labeled the parts of the plants she studied – generally, and made notebooking pages as mentioned earlier.

    Where the guide says to do the quiz, we did that orally as well as the end of chapter discussion questions.  I did do most of the the “experiments” or activities that are included in the guidebook, but sometimes I tweeked them or dropped them altogether depending upon the other activities or experiments that we were able to do for that section. Also, I did sometimes go over the video again, though not always.  We had a couple of chapters that lasted nearly 4 weeks, but there was a lot to cover. 

    OH, and one of the most important parts.  I read the study guide aloud – partly because I had a younger child tagging along, and party for the discussion.  I broke up the readings into much smaller pieces, covering only one or two sub headings so that my student could take each bit in greater detail.

    Most of the experiments that we did came from Apologia or this was the starting point, and I did some searching on the internet after reading up on the experiment in the book to suit us a bit better.  I used the Bio 101 as my guide rather than Apologia text.

    This may sound overwhelming, but with the guidebook, it really was very easy.  Since I already had the Apologia Bio from my older students, it was handy and easy to use.  There are other experiments guides online, though, so do not be daunted if you don’t have this at hand.  Perhaps you could borrow an Apologia text if you really wanted to have something on hand & in your hands.  I think that I have some of the sites pinned to my science/ nature study board. (jacqleene meyers on pinterest)

    Did that help at all?  I’m a bit sleep deprived today – last night we had a group of homeschool prom teens who were up all night and left at 8:00 am this morning, so if it’s not clear, please forgive me and do ask for more explanation. 🙂

    Pax,

    ~jacqleene

    livken
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    Thanks jaqleene! Were there any living books that you found that were not to be missed?

    Thanks again,

    Olivia

    blue j
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    Some of the ones the girls have enjoyed: (please note that many of these are juvie books as the guide has them read both juvie and non-juvie books)

    Tree in the Trail
    Sky Tree (visually beautiful)
    Jack’s Insects (various chapters)
    The Burgess Bird Book (various chapters)
    The Story of Science (various chapters)
    One Square Inch – Backyard
    The Way We Work
    Amazing X-rays; The Human Body
    Stripe Robert McClung
    Audubon Insects and Spiders – great for quick look-ups and scientific names
    Handbook of Nature Study
    Human Anatomy in full Color – John Green

    We also had some favorite videos:

    Six Days of Creation – Answers in Genesis
    Sharks! Discovery Channel
    Blue Planet videos
    The Living Sea
    Coral Reef Adventure
    Lizard Kings
    Microcosmos

    Be aware that nearly all of the videos we watched were on Netflix and contain evolutionary materials. We simply choose to talk about it and consider it a teachable moment which have brought about interesting discussions. 🙂 If evolution is something you wish to avoid only the Answers in Genesis video I mentioned fits the bill.  Also, some of the books mention evolution in passing.  I don’t remember any overt evolutionary information, but then again, it may have been in a chapter that I didn’t have the girls read, or I may be forgetting references since we just talk about it as it comes up.

    Pax,

    ~jacqleene

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