Any overseas missionaries here?

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  • kimofthesavages
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    If there are any families here that are out of the country as missionaries (or just live out of the country) I have some questions for you, like how long does it take for you to get books you ordered? Do you use AO more since so much of their book list is of books that are free to read online? Any special things to consider because of being out of the country? (like nature guides, etc)

    JoyinIndo
    Member

    Me!  We usually order our books in May and they come in August.  I tried to use AO, but I’m a hold-it-in-my hand kind of girl, so I order all of our books.  Nature guides are troublesome, I found some specific to our region (Indonesia) and bought those.

    My biggest trouble is making sure I order enough extra things, like paper, pencils, any hands-on things we might need for the year.  

    Any other questions I can answer, ask away! 🙂

    Blessings,

    JoyinIndo

    Mum In Zion
    Participant

    We are Australians living in Israel but I usually purchase most of my curriculum from the US.   We often have a few visitors from the US each year, so I try to co-ordinate my book ordering with visitors to save on International shipping.  Sometimes this means ordering well in advance but it saves so much money, especially when I can get free shipping within the US.  I also order from Book Depository UK because they have free International shipping, and they deliver in less than 10 days usually.

    I looked at using AO but when I started homeschooling but we didn’t have good internet access and only one computer to share with dh who was studying his Masters at the time.  Printing everything was not a viable option either.  Ink is so expensive here.  Maybe if I was starting now with a kindle or iPad to read the online books, I might choose AO, but I’m happy with what we have going.  

    I bought Israeli Nature guides for flowers/plants and birds.  I haven’t found an animal one I like that is in English.  All weights and measurements are metric here, so I often have to supplement our Math for that, as well as the currency.  But I have just discovered that Math Mammoth have a metric option and with money you can choose US, Euro, British & Australian.  This will be so helpful because we go to all those countries either to visit family or raising money for the Ministry.

    Like JoyinIndo, I also order extra supplies like paper and pencils, or particular craft and science items.  I can purchase most things here but everything is more expensive, less choice and more difficult to find.  We don’t have big stores like Hobby Lobby or WalMart here 🙂

    I also have family send “supply packages” with Australian things…. special foods, music, books and crafts, to help our children connect with our family/heritage in Australia.  We only visit Australia every three years, which is a long time between visits for the kids (and adults too!!).

    Are you considering a move overseas? as missionaries?

    Blessings,

    Michelle

    MamaSnow
    Participant

    Me too!  Although we are just getting started ourselves with my oldest in K this year (although we have been overseas for 10 years).  We work in a location where our mission has many missionaries working, so they are able to forward items by sea-freight several times a year which saves over airmailing for heavy items like books.  I usually have to plan/think through what I want for the following year at least 6 months in advance so I can order my things to be sent to the US headquarters before the shipping container leaves.  If we find we’ve missed anything later in the year my mom sends us packages fairly often anyway so can slip things in.  She’s found the best way to ship to us is via the USPS International Flat Rate Priorty Boxes – they aren’t cheap, but you can fit A LOT in them and since it is flat rate the weight doesn’t matter as much.  Those usually reach us (in Papua New Guinea) in 3-6 weeks.  But obviously the best shipping option is probably going to vary a lot depending on your location and situation.

    I only just got a Kindle about a month ago and am finding that many of the SCM books are available in Kindle editons too – at least the literature titles, and many of the ‘living books’ suggested for science.  I haven’t checked yet to see what is available for the history modules in electronic format.  That could potentially save you a lot as well – even if only half the books are available electronically that’s that many fewer paper books you’d have to buy and ship.   I looked at AO but didn’t care much for the way it is set up.  I think it’s probably better to pick a curriculum that is going to be a good fit for your family and then worry about how you will get the books and materials rather than trying to force a fit with something else, even if the books and such are more accessible.   And I think even buying and shipping books for SCM would still be less in the end than using a boxed curriculum like Sonlight or in our case our other option would be the local International School – I can buy and ship mountains of books for what tuition would be there, especially once our younger 2 children also reach school age!  (ALthough we have many other reasons for choosing not to go that route besides the financial consderations.)

    I haven’t yet been able to find any good nature field guides for our location…wish I could find a better solution to that one because I’m fairly ignorant about those things beyond the very basics.

    Hope that helps some! 

    Blessings,

    Jen

    kimofthesavages
    Participant

    JoyinIndo, I hadn’t thought about pencils and paper and things like that! We will be in Costa Rica for a year and then on to Ecuador. Do you have custom/tax issues with the books you have mailed in?

    Michelle, I also hadn’t considered the metric system differences…hmmm. Right now I use Rightstart math for the younger ones and Life of Fred for the older one. I will check out Math mammoth. Yes, we are preparing to be missionaries in Ecuador. It has been a long process but looks like we will be heading out this year I hope. I will need to have the next two years of homeschool materials because it will be two years before we come back for a visit, which I’ll then bring back another few years of homeschool materials then. We have been advised to only take what we can bring in suitcases because crating or mailing is sooo expensive and takes a really long time.

    Jen, I have thought about a Kindle. What is the benefit from having that vs an ebook on the laptop? Is it just the smaller size of the electronic?

    By the way, if anyone has a site/blog/newsletter about their missions work I would really love to see it. I wonder how many missionaries out there are using CM? 🙂

    MamaSnow
    Participant

    Kim,

    The big selling point for me on the Kindle was that it doesn’t have a backlit screen, so it is much easier on the eyes than a computer-type screen.  I was never really interested in using e-books before because i HATE reading anything lengthy off of the screen, but printing out whole books took too much time/paper/ink.   The Kindle is small and compact and it doesn’t bother me to read it any more than reading from a paper book.  Awhile back, Doug had posted a video on using a Kindles and/or Ipads for school purposes, you might want to check that out. http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/video-choosing-an-e-book-reader-for-your-homeschool#post-28409

    The one thing I don’t like about the Kindle is that it is black and white, and so anything that you really want to be able to enjoy the rich, color illustrations in doesn’t work out so well.  My kids are young still and we still use a lot of picture books, so there are a lot of things we just have to have in paper anyhow. (But that’s OK, because I really like paper books too!)  But I think we will definetely use it more and more as they grow older and more into the ‘chapter books’ that don’t rely so much on the illustrations.  And while we have been able to recieve our mail fairly easily in our current location, we are considering a move to another location where the mail situation may be different, so I may have to get creative about what and how much I can ship also if that’s the case. =)

    We don’t have a blog or anything, but I’d be happy to send you a copy of our latest newsletter (about 1MB PDF file) if you are interested (this goes for any of you, really!)  Just PM me with your email address. =)

    Jen

    kimofthesavages
    Participant

    I just watched the video, thanks for the link! It was very helpful. I would *love* to get an ipad…those look like a great tool for homeschooling. Oh they are so expensive though…looks like about 600.00? I’ve been told that each suitcase we bring (above the 2 per person limit) on the flight is about 100-200 dollars. I wonder how much cheaper those ipads will be in a couple of years? hmmmm

    I am going to pm you my email address because I would love to get your newsletter! We are in the beginning stages of putting our very first newsletter together…actually, at this point we are still debating the *title* for it, haha. Also planning on doing a blog at some point, something we have never done before. We are not technological at all.

    Another question I have for you all is unrelated… what kind of luggage should we get? Should we pay a lot for rugged luggage that will last awhile or should we get the cheapest second-hand ones we can find? I have not flown in over 15 years! I wondered too if we can use trunks for some of the suitcases? I need to check into the airline regulations…I’m sure there are size limitations?

    MamaSnow
    Participant

    Hi Kim,

    I would recommend investing in quality luggage.  On our last furlough one of our churches took at VBS offering for us to help us purchase some new luggage and we got some really nice Samsonite stuff that we have been very pleased with, and now even after two major “round trips” with it it still looks like new!  I would suggest, however, looking for something fairly lightweight so you aren’t starting with something heavy – it seems like airlines have really tightened up on their luggage weight restrictions over the last couple of years.  Our pieces are all quite large and we could fit a lot more stuff in them if we wanted too – but we can’t because they would weigh way too much.  When we first went overseas it was suggested to take Rubbermaid Action packers – but I wouldn’t suggest that.  They didn’t hold up too well, and now with everything needing to be searchable by the TSA it would be hard to secure the lids well enough to ensure they wouldn’t fly off in transit.

    HTH!

    Jen

    Mum In Zion
    Participant

    Hi Kim,  

    I second the recommendation of quality luggage, but look for lightweight if possible.  We have gone with cheap lightweight in the past but it nearly always gets damaged, so it doesn’t work out cheaper in the long run.  We also go for the expandable style…. it usually needs to be expanded to the max on our return trip after furlough 🙂  We try to travel light out of Israel and then stock up on clothes, school supplies, toiletries…. anything that is cheaper to get abroad.

    Would it be cheaper for you to pay for an extra suitcase (or two) rather than pay for shipping the same amount/weight?  This first trip is always the hardest….. not knowing what to take when you are not sure what you can get at your destination.  It is probably worth it to take more rather than less, just to make the transition easier/less stressful for you.  If you have all your school supplies with you to get you started, then you can take your time to explore your local shops to see what you will be able to purchase locally in the future.  There will be so many new things to learn and adjust to…. language, climate, food….

    We don’t have a blog either.  Our ministry has a website and we just have a newsletter that we send out by email to our supporters and anyone interested.  It is usually one page of news about our family and ministry and one page of teaching by my dh.  I would also be interested to see how missionaries use/adapt CM methods depending on their location, ministries, families…

    What ages are your children?  

    Blessings,

    Michelle

    dmccall3
    Participant

    Hi!

    We spent the last few years in Tanzania, East Africa but we’re taking a reassignment to West Africa.

    My son is just turning 3 so I couldn’t address your other questions. We did ship books to Tanzania (before we got the kindle) by using flat rate boxes. That ended up being way cheaper than excess baggage because books are so heavy.

    I agree with Michelle… That first trip will be the hardest because you can’t know for sure what to leave behind, what to take, and how to take it. Give yourself a break on that. We took things we didn’t need and didn’t take things we needed but in the end we were taken care of and really didn’t lack in terms of our real needs.

    We do have a website, blogs, and a newsletter. I’ll PM you that information. Anyone else who wants that info can PM me. 🙂

    Blessings on the beginning of your adventure! 🙂

    Dana

    kimofthesavages
    Participant

    I’m so encouraged by the responses! 🙂 So a brand of quality luggage would be Samsonite? I guess we would want nesting bags so that we don’t have luggage everywhere in our new home? I really needed to hear that the first move is the hardest and that there is no way to know for sure what will be there or needed. Another missionary family in Ecuador told us they had about 18 bags of luggage for their family of four! I can’t wait to read the newsletters and websites on you all. 🙂 Oh, we have four children: a 12 year old girl, 10 year old girl, 7 year old boy, and 6 month old boy.

    Any advice on homeschooling overseas or moving/etc is greatly appreciated!

    kim

    dmccall3
    Participant

    Oh another thing Kim… We have used the space bags to “squish” down our fluffier stuff (like stuffed animals, clothes we won’t be wearing right away, cloth diapers, etc.) and they have really helped. Weigh your bags as you pack so each is at/just under its weight limit.

    Probably the most important thing I have learned is how many things I don’t need. It’s a matter of priority I think. We do take sentimental things with us (like wall hangings we got in Tanzania – they roll up) but we try to take only what we really love or use a lot. Of course that will be hard to know at first but maybe something to keep in mind. Luggage space is precious. 🙂 If we think we want to take something “just in case” or because “that would be ‘nice’ to have” we leave it behind.

    As far as moving advice – lots of prayer, patience, and deep breaths. 🙂

    Blessings to you!

    Dana

    Hi. I have a question for you missionary moms. First of all, thank you for serving God and His children in this way. There are so many who don’t follow God’s calling into the mission field. I know you will be blessed beyond measure. My question is regarding bible studies. Do you have any suggestions on a corresponding bible study to a study on ancient china or japan? I’d appreciate your input on this.

    Sandi in New Jersey USA

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