Another Narrating Question

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  • swtonscrappn
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    Ok, I got the blog posts last week about narrating, and once again, I feel like Im doing it all wrong.  I gathered from the notes that:
    1) I shouldnt correct them
    2) I shouldnt question
    3) I should add anything to their narration (which I may just be inferring)
    4) I shouldnt repeat the passage

    The problems I am running into are:
    1) My kids just adding things that I didnt say and have nothing to do with the passage
    2) My youngest (who is only 6) only repeats my last sentence word for word
    3) Saying “I dont know” or actually telling me “I didnt hear” (AKA I wasnt listening)
    4) (Disclaimer: This is super petty) Starting every single narration with “Wellllllllllllll”

    Rachel White
    Participant

    After narrating for 3 years this is how I do it and my children narrate beautifully. I don’t “correct” them per say, I ‘redirect’ them. If they are referring to something that didn’t exist in that particular section, I do stop them. Telling them to focus, I give them a key word at the place where they went astray to ‘jump start’ their memory, so to speak. Then they move along fine-that addresses your #1.

    I question at the beginning when I ask them to tell me what it was about, but not during. At the end, I ask the child whose turn it wasn’t “Is there anything you would like to add?”. Asking questions to get specifics basicly contradicts what you’re trying to do.

    As for your #2, age six is at the begining of training in narration. It is best to only start a child at that age with about 2-3 sentences, max, then say “so what was that about from the beginning?” or “tell me what that was about from the beginning”, or something along those lines.

    You shouldn’t be adding anything to their narration; they will become dependant upon you to do that and it will only get worse as they want you to give them the info. instead of using their own brains to retreive the content. You shouldn’t repeat the passage.

    As for your#3 problems there could be a few reasons. So may I ask you some questions to clarify?

    #1-How old are all your children? #2-How long have you been using narration? #3-what books are you using for narration? #4-Have you been working intentionally on the attention habit? #5-What time of day and after which subjects do you have narrations?”

    For #4, talk to them beforehand to not say “Welllll” It’s as bad as saying “uhhhh” before a sentence or the horrible cultural addition of “like” into every sentence these days multiple times! It’s a habit of not thinking before speaking; that must be stopped. When my children get into a habit of using a word, I immediately cut them off (perhaps with a finger going up or a sound emanating from me , as in a quick “no”or something- just choose something short and relatively non-disruptive)and have them start over without using whatever word it is they need to withdraw. But inform them ahead of time that you going to do___ to help them break this habit. THey must think about what they’re going to say before they speak.

    HTH a little and hopefully can help you more if you choose to answer the questions.

    Rachel

    swtonscrappn
    Participant

    #1-How old are all your children? #2-How long have you been using narration? #3-what books are you using for narration? #4-Have you been working intentionally on the attention habit? #5-What time of day and after which subjects do you have narrations?”

    My children are 6,7, and 9.  This is the first year we have done CM so we are new to narrating (just one month).  We do narrate paragraph to paragraph.  Mostly we narrate our story book and our history module (#1).  I am attempting to work on the attention habit 😛  (We’ve had a lot of adjustments, so Im rethinking how Im going about it). Our narrating subjects are usually the first two we do in the morning.

    Sonya Shafer
    Moderator

    Just wanted to jump in here and suggest that you break up the two narrating subjects rather than do them back to back. Try doing a narrating subject, then go use a different part of the brain and body — like math or copywork or picture study or something else — and come back to a narrating subject later. This strategy really helps with developing the habit of attention, because it doesn’t over-fatigue one part of the brain, thus making it easier to pay attention. 

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Yes, thank you Sonya, I was going to suggest the exact same thing concerning breaking up the narration subjects; that’s vital. 

    Other than that, since it is the first year for all of you, I would suggest shortening the passages for all of them. The recommendation for the older ones would then be the same for the 6 yr. old. Start with 2-3 sentences, ask for the narrations, taking turns without telling which ones will go next that way they all will pay attention since they don’t know if they’ll be called upon; then do the next few, etc. It will take a while at first and you won’t feel like you’re getting very far, but be patient. Eventually, you’ll be doing paragraphs and then multiple paragraphs after 2-3 years of consistant use.

    Another way to strengthen and encourage attention to detail and narration is when they go outside for nature study, employ narration; when they ‘tell back’ what they they’re observing, that’s narrating. Also, when you’re doing picture study, same thing. This can also be done out in public places, like doctor’s offices, hospitals, other offices with artwok on the walls-ask them “what do you see?”,”what time of year do you think it is?”, “how does itmake you feel when you look at it?”; open, not closed ended questions. Anytime they are excited about something they’ve read, encourage their ‘telling back’ and when they are finished you can tell them”hey guess what!? You just narrated to me!”

    Hope this info. has clarified and willl help you, Rachel

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