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No luck with the late Burrell
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- swtonscrappnParticipant
I had a heck of a time finding this book, and had multiple orders from different places not be completed. Then someone mentioned that it is also sold under the British title of Oxfords Childrens Ancient History. I was able to buy THAT one from amazon (I think) for just below cover price. So def look under both titles.
Doug SmithKeymasterFYI, We’ve put in an application for permission to reprint this book but we haven’t received an answer yet.
It seems like Veritas Press once used the Oxford book too. We checked this morning and they are now using Streams of Civilization, Kingfisher History Encyclopedia, and Hillyer’s Child’s History of the World for ancient history. Is anyone familiar with any of those books?
aliceParticipantI remember using Streams of Civilization when I was in school. I enjoyed it, but I don’t know if it is a living book. I think I have Hillyer’s Child’s History of the World, so I’ll have to see if that will be a good replacement till the Oxford book is (hopefully) reprinted.
missingtheshireMemberI have read Streams of Civilization Vol one and two – it is for older children – vol two is written by a different author and is more challenging, – I have the Oxford book and in comparison the Streams book is much more textbook than CM book, though you could use it that way if you ignore the tests etc. I enjoyed both Streams books, but I enjoy anything history, textbook or CM, so I am not the best judge. Kingfisher is also a nice encyclopedia – but that is what it is an encyclopedia, so I don’t think it compares to the Oxford book. I have not seen Hillyer’s book so I cannot tell. Notgrass history put out nice books if you just use them in a CM way and I believe they are doing some for younger children as well as high school now. We have used them for narration and discussion and we just ignore the other parts of it. We also supplement with other books, anyway if anyone has any specific questions, feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer. I was looking at the Oxford book this morning, and thinking what a nice book it is, and I have to say I have not seen another book quite like it for younger kids, older ones there are a few but this one is very nice and even though I don’t need it I am hanging onto it in case the girls ever have children, because it is a lovely quality. Having said that, there is no way I would pay more than $25.00 for it, that is what it says on my copy, and that is a good price – those that are selling for $98 are just preying on people who feel they have to have the book, and it is not worth that. Hope this helps.
aliceParticipantI have a question about substituting the Oxford book. How will I know what topics to cover in a new book, if I dont know what is covered in the Oxford book in a particular week? Does that make any sense? I may find another great living book on ancient Egypt, but how will I know what to read about to replace the original book? Sorry if this is a dumb question!
Lisa02Memberto anyone who has worked through mod. 1 in history or staff from CM What does the Oxford book cover? This way I know what to look for in another book. I am using the helpers guide from CM-Adam and his Kin-Letters from Egypt-And The pharoahs of Ancient Egypt. What should I look for in a book that he would not be getting in one of those?
jeaninpaParticipantI’ve gone back to check my records after reading this thread. I purchased Oxford Children’s Ancient History by Roy Burrell within this last year. It is a hardcover in great condition. I found it at DealOz — they have listings for lots of different book sellers. I can’t remember who I actually bought it from, but it shipped from England and I paid (don’t throw anything!) $9 and that included shipping. Try DealOz.
aliceParticipantDealOz will direct you to buy it from Amazon UK, which brings the total to $36. And it’s out of stock. Like Lisa02 asked, it would be very helpful to know what is covered in Mod 1. I downloaded the family study guide, but when it says to read a particular chapter, I don’t know what exactly is covered in the book…therefore unable to make an informed decision about what book to substitute
Thanks to everyone’s help so far!.Sonya ShaferModeratorLisa02, I don’t have my copy with me here in Texas this weekend, but in general, it covers everyday life with wonderful illustrations. Does anybody have theirs handy to add more details?
crazy4boysParticipantmissingtheshireMemberPrt 1 is On the Threshold of History
Prt 2 is The Greeks
Prt 3 The Rmans
The chapters are as follows:
Part 1
Introduction The Stone Age
First Civilizations
Sumer
Egypt
Other Early ivilizations
Pre Iron Age Britain
Part 2:
The Minoans
The Mycenaeans
Early Greeks
Greek Civilization
The Persian Wars
Pericles and the Golden Age
Athletics and Games
The Peloponnesian Wars
Alexander the Great
Greece Conquered
Part 3:
Origins
Rome and her Neighbours
The City of Rome
Republic and Empire
Daily Life
The State and Religion
The Arena
The Army
Barbarians at the Gate
Postcript: The Legacy of Rome
Within each chapter there are sections an example would be:
Chapter 4 Other Early Civilizations
The Indus Valley
China
The Hittites
The Hebrews
The Assyrians
The Persions
The Phoenicians
If I have time later I will type up all the chapters and subsections and post it. Hope this helps for a start. Linda
crazy4boysParticipantI think you can also buy the books separately – The Romans and The Greeks and On The Threshold of History (which covers the Stone Age, first civilizations, Sumer, Egypt, other early civilizations and the pre-iron age of Britain). The Greek and Roman books are between $1 and $5 each on many used book sites. I can’t find the Threshold of History except on Amazon UK (there is one for .03 pounds plus shipping).
missingtheshireMemberOk this is long, bt I have typed out all the parts, chapter and subheadings of the chapter of the book which I hope will bless some of you asking for this. Each chapter has subparts which are mostly 2 page spreads on each topic. The book has wonderful pictures and illustrations. Anyway, here is the book contents:
PART 1: On the threshold of history
Introduction – The Stone Age
Chapter 1 – First Civilizations
The climate changes
From food gathering to farming
From hunting to stock farming
Attraction of river valleys
Irrigation and flood
The rise of the leaders
Chapter 2: Sumer
The first settlers
The useful date palm
Nam-sha learns to read and write
Clay Bricks and Buildings
Gods and Heroes
Houses and everyday life
Conquerors and kings
Law Givers
The royal tombs at Ur
Babylon
Science in Babylon
Reading the wedge-shaped writing
Chapter 3: Egypt
Before the pyramids
The Discovery of metal
Building temples and pyramids
The oldest ship in the world
Cleopatra’s needle
Mummies and tombs
Akhenaten and religion
Tutankhamen’s tomb
The lost toy cupboard
Everyday life
The disappearing queen
Paper, ink, hieroglyphics
Chapter 4: Other early civilizations
The Indus valley
China
The Hittites
The Hebrews
The Assyrians
The Persians
The Phoenicians
Chapter 5: Pre iron age Britain
The first farmers
Skara Brae
Silbury, Avebury and Stonehenge
Bronze age barrows
The coming of the iron age
PART 2: The Greeks
Chapter 6: The Minoans
The legend of the Minotaur
Sir Arthur Evans
The palace at Knossos
Daily Life
Religion
Bull Leaping
Michael Ventris and Linear ‘B’
Atlantis
Chapter 7: The Mycenaeans
Homer
The Trojan War
Heinrich Schliemann
Schliemann at Mycenae
Chapter 8: Early Greeks
Achaeans and Dorians
The emergence of cities
The early days of Athens
Chapter 9: Greek civilization
How the cities were ruled
Solon, Cleisthenes and Pericles
Everyday Life
Other members of the family
Art and Pottery
Ships and trade
The Gods
Chapter 10: The Persian Wars
The Persian Empire
Persian rulers
The Battle of Marathon
Thermophylae
Salamis
Chapter 11: Pericles and the Golden Age
The wise men of Greece
Slavery
Clothes
The Acropolis and its buildings
Greek legends
Music
A day at the theatre
The Oracles
Chapter 12: Athletics and games
Legend of Pelops
Olympia
The Olympic Games
Other games and pastimes
Chapter 13: The Peloponnesian wars
Sparta
Why the war started
Soldiers and battles
Athens is conquered
Chapter 14: Alexander the Great
Early days
The army
Battles and sieges
Persepolis
Alexander’s last battle
Death of a conqueror
The empire is divided up
Chapter 15: Greece conquered
The Romans come to Greece
Greece becomes a Roman province
The Greek legacy
PART 3: The Romans
Chapter 16: Origins
The legend of Aeneas
The legend of Romulus and Remus
The truth behind the legends
The early kings
Sabines and Romans
The Etruscans
Horatius and the bridge
The Celts
Chapter 17: Rome and her neighbours
The Greeks
Carthage
A sea fight
Hannibal and the Punic Wars
Chapter 18: The City of Rome
What Rome may have looked like
Aqueducts
The baths
Temples
Private houses and flats
Shops
Nero’s Golden House
Chapter 19: Republic and empire
Why the kingdom ended
The republic and its end
The early emperors
The empire expands
The decline of the glory
Chapter 20: Daily Life
Pompeii
Food and Drink
Clothes
Education
Time and the Calendar
Painting, sculpture, drama and literature
Earning a living
Games and pastimes
Chapter 21: The state and religion
Government and the law
Religion and legends
Christianity
Slavery
Chapter 22: The arena
The amphitheatre
The Colosseum
Gladiators
The Circus Maximus
Chapter 23: The army
The citizen soldier and the legion
Uniform, weapons and tactics
Siege engines
Marching camps
The officers
Roman roads
Chapter 24: Barbarians at the Gate
Barbarians settle inside the frontiers
Some provinces are abandoned
Constantine, his town and the division of the empire
Alaric and the sack of Rome
More Barbarian attacks
The Byzantine Empire lasts another thousand years
POSTCRIPT: The legacy of Rome
aliceParticipantLinda,
Thank you, thank you!! That is a HUGE help!! Thank you for taking the time to put this up for us!
AlicemissingtheshireMemberYou are most welcome, I really hope it helps. Linda
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