Where to get help for our family?

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  • Misty
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    Ok.  Things are just not good in our home.  I’m sure it’s a mixture of many things.  And I know my dh will not be totally on board.  But I think my family needs to see a counseler or someone for anger, learning to get along, dealing with others and who knows what.  So can any one tell me how to find a good Christian one?  How do you search for this type of person?  Thanks

    Bookworm
    Participant

    I think the place to start is with your pastor/priest/religious advisor.  He will usually know of counselors or therapists in your area who are supportive of religious people (this is NOT true of many therapists)  Also some denominations, like Catholic or Latter-Day Saint, will have organized social services agencies which may be near you.  So that’s where I’d start looking.

    Rebekahy
    Participant

    You can also call Focus on the Family – they have trained counselors that will help you out for free initial call and then direct you to some one locally.  1-800-A-FAMILY

    Rebekahy
    Participant

    http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechallenges/articles/consider_counseling.aspx

    Here’s the link to the specifics of their free counseling referral program.  It even has questions to ask yourself to see if you are at the point where you do need counseling.

    LindseyD
    Participant

    I second Focus on the Family. I was having an issue with my 6yo son a couple of months ago, and dh nor I knew how to handle it biblically. I called FF, and a counselor returned my message the next day. He gave some great advice and helped us to feel better and hopeful about the situation. He was also able to recommend some resources for us to read, and he even gave us the name of a licensed Christian counselor in our area who is approved by FF, just in case we weren’t able to resolve our situation without professional, long-term help. Thankfully, we never had to take that step, but at least I know where to go if we ever have that need. It’s a big step to reach out for help, Misty. I am very proud of you for being able to admit that there’s a problem that might be beyond your capacity or knowledge. That is a great first step!

    Rachel White
    Participant

      Yes, having been through this with my family for many years, actually leaving twice so my husband understood I was serious (not that I recommend that for everyone, but that’s what I had to do) start with your Priest (you are Catholic, right?). He is your spiritual head and will know where to guide you. Your spiritual family is there to get you through this, to advise you and surround you with love and support of which you and your children and your husband need. You cannot go through this without the prayers and support of your Priest and older women-not those on this board only. G-d designed you to need women who can pray with you-in person. Only a severe controller would try to prevent you from having womanly relationships and that’s a problem (spoken from experience-needs counseling to reverse) and unbiblical. He needs manly relationships, too and he’s accountable to G-d, you and your Priest. 

    Whether your husband comes or not doesn’t determine whether you and your children go. Frankly, your husband doesn’t have the authority to prevent you from going to your Priest. Your Priest can counsel you himself or guide you to someone he knows so even if your husband doesn’t go, you will be encouraged, strenthened and counseled on how to handle this situation and establish boundaries in your home, which in turn will help him, even if he doesn’t go; but hopefully he will because he loves you and his children more than himself.

    I pray your husband will go as the Scriptures support him going and seeking help-letting “Iron sharpen Iron” as the say; but that doesn’t need stop you and you taking your children. It’s not about “submission” and being patient and all that. Yes, it is a spiritual problem, sometimes a chemical one (both in my husband’s case, plus siezures and pain meds. from chronic pain), but that doesn’t mean you allow verbal abuse and rage; I don’t believe G-d expects you to live that way.

    You all need counsel, wisdom and encouragement as soon as possible, like call today! And though I wasn’t going to say this on the other post; please, I recommend, do not read the Pearl “helpmeet” book through this. It is not appropriate to a situation like this, IMO. Also, there is more on men loving their wives in the Scriptures than protecting them.

    I don’t mean to sound harsh-just speaking from experience and don’t want this to escalate and think many marriage books cause women to stay ‘patient’ too long. I found the Boundaries books to be far more relevant to my angry, depressed, controlling, and ultimately, verbally abusive situation.

    “Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.” Prov.15:22

    I am praying for you and yours; I do have an idea of how you feel. Please encourage your children that it is right for them to speak their hearts to the Priest and anyone he recommends for further counsel.

    Rachel

    Rachel, as usual is giving great advice here. I second the book recommendation for Boundaries – it is Christian and it is amazing. I wanted to mention that my mil, who is a life-long Catholic, was having trouble in her family with her children and asked her priest for help. He gave her no advice, said he didn’t have any idea what she should do, and furthermore did not refer her to any other group. I only mention this in case it happens to you, not because I think it will happen. But in the case your priest is not helpful, I encourage you to keep on looking for help. I go to a Christian counselor who I found in the phonebook! Ha! The Lord was looking out for me that day! 🙂 I promise you that the Lord is faithful and hears your cries for help and He will make sure that you find what you need. I’ll be praying for you and your family. 🙂

    Becky

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Thank you, Becky.

    I also agree with Becky on not allowing a ‘non-answer’ from your Priest, if that happens, to discourage you. I, too have a Catholic friend who has sought help from her Priest and he was only partially helpful, with only theoretical advice, with no meat in it or practical application to actually have an impact on the situation. This isn’t unique to Catholism, however, so please I hope you do not take it as Catholic bashing.

     I am thankful for my Rabbi’s support of us (unceasing) and our Congregation’s leadership’s accountable, yet loving approach and the counsel and prayers of awesome women for me and the men (inc. the Rabbi) for my son and off-and-on for my husband (as he allowed) through the years regarding our situation; I’d say my experience is unique. There have been other blessed counselors (one still in use weekly for him) and now a hard-core Dr. for him monthly along w/meds. currently thrown in the mix for us that G-d has used. Keep in mind, my husband has serious medical issues that go way beyond depression or plain anger, but he is gettting help and ya’ll can, too.

    Rachel

    I too have spoken with Focus on the Family and can say they were excellent.  I would also recommend you talk first with your Priest, but reading between the lines I would also look for a Christian counsellor or psychologist.  Anger issues can rapidly escalate and need to be nipped in the bud.  I do not know if you have medical insurance but if you do find out what they cover in the way of mental health issues.  Counsellors and pyschs are notoriously expensive, but worth the money if you need one bad enough.  Do not isolate youself with this issue, you need support and should not be afraid to seek it.  If you have insurance then ask them for a recommendation in your area, or a list – if you don’t have any insurance, call around and look up online or in the phone book for Christian people who deal with counselling.  I know you have little ones, so do get the help you need for all of your sakes and I pray your husband will be on board, if not now, then soon.  Blessings and hugs – Linda

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Thank you for bringing this up, Linda. It made me think of a few things. If you don’t have insurance, some Christian counseling facilities work on a ‘sliding scale’ according to your income, so definitely share that financial concern with them. 

    Our marriage psychologist also gave us a cash discount; ours did mainly because he was our Rabbi’s recommendation, but I would think it would be worthy to ask for any psychologist, if it becomes necessary, if they have a reasonable non-insurance cash price.

    Lastly, be bold in asking help for financial help from your church to help pay a bill here or there while you go through this, if that’s an area that may prevent pursuing help. Your husband may use your financial situation as an excuse not to get help. So you can reassure him that it is handled. Your church has benevolence funds to help their constituents first-that being ya’ll-during hard times and I would think that your Priest would see the connection of helping with the physical needs (money) to attend to the spiritual/mental ones.

    Just thought I’d share the info.

    I was reminded in this month of something and encourage you to do the same; that is to run to the L-rd, pour out your heart’s distress before the L-rd, as Hannah did, and let His Peace fill you as it did her.

    For your encouragement:“I Lift mine eyes unto the hills-where does my help come from? My help comes from the L-rd, Maker of Heaven and Earth” Psalm 121:1-2

    “Cast all your anxiety on him for He cares for you”1 Peter 5:7

    “For G-d has not given us a spirit of fear, but one of power, love and sound judgement” 1 Tim. 1:7

    Rachel

     

    Misty
    Participant

    Thank you everyone.  this has been a huge help.  I think I will call my priest (and I don’t thinik anything was bashing or wrong and yes I am catholic.  You all have great memories).

    For us it is about anger.  I come from a house of anger and I think though I don’t notice it I am the cause.  I get fustrated and angry easily and I am short.  You know quick to speak and very molasis slow to listen.  Now I am seeing it in my children.

    I  have read the Help meet book and it is not a good time to re-read it.  I am re-reading Raising Tom’s though.  I need to be held accountable for my issues.  I can see my relationship with my children slipping fast.  They are afraid to tell me things cause I just talk before I think. 

    Thanks everyone I will seek advice and help. Misty

    LindseyD
    Participant

    Misty,

    While it is very good to be constantly looking in the mirror at our own behavior, habits, words, and actions, I would encourage you not to put the full blame of your sensitive situation on yourself. If you have recognized a few things in yourself and are seeking outside help, I applaud you. However, from what you have described in previous posts, it doesn’t sound like the problems are beginning or ending with just you. It is true that we can’t change others, but I wouldn’t let that stop you from encouraging your entire family, including your husband, from receiving the benefits of outside, godly counsel and wisdom. Not only does good counsel bring underlying issues to the surface, it also creates accountability, which is good for everyone. And the counselor’s office can become a safe place for you to speak openly with your husband, for your husband to speak openly to you, and for your children to speak openly with both of you.

    I hope you don’t feel I am being too forward. Just trying to speak in love,

    Lindsey

    Misty I agree with Lindsey – it is good to recognise our own shortcomings, and sometimes our own issues come from the way we were raised, but these issues can also become worse when we feel overwhelmed and without support – I know that you have your hands full, and I remember you saying your family was not happy about your last child.  So I am thinking that though you may have a volatile temper, maybe you are really overwhelmed and don’t know quite where to turn – if your husband and family are not so supportive or understanding, it can be easy to slip into anger through frustration and a feeling of being overwhelmed.  Tempers can be controlled, I know, I used to have one, and it still surfaces once in a while and I speak out of turn.  When I was young it was not a pleasant trait at all – but over the years it has diminished and rarely shows its face – so do not despair and do not be afraid of getting some help and asking for financial help – is there anyone who could occasionally give you a break from the day to day running of the home and the care of the children?  Is there a way you can take a few hours away every so often – we all need a break now and then and a time to refresh.  I am not Catholic, but there is a wonderful Catholic Shrine near by with beautiful grounds, and I love to go there every few months for a few hours of quiet contemplation while walking in their peaceful grounds.  I find it refreshes me and helps to focus again.  We all need these times of peace – do you have that?  I too am speaking in love and hope I am not out of line – do remember we mums are the glue oftentimes that holds the family together, so it is imperative that we take care of ourselves and don’t burn out on the burdens of day to day life.  I pray you and your husband can gain wisdom together, but if not, you must do what you can to help yourself so that you are healthy and whole.  By the way, if I occasionally lose my temper now, the girls just roll there eyes at me, and I swiftly apologise and we move on – we are exceptionally close and they have seen me at my best and in the past my worst – so do have hope and take care.  Bless you and I admire your courage at speaking up – you are a long way forward in becoming what you want to be and what you want your family to be, by being so open.  Linda

    Misty
    Participant

    Thank you everyone.  I know that my issues are when things get overwhelming.  And in the winter do to being stuck in the house.  I’m very happy to know that starting next month my church will be doing a womens breakfast after the Saturday mass and I’ve already told my dh of the hope of me gonig.  Thanks ladies. 

    Sanveann
    Member

    If you’re looking for a specifically Catholic counselor, you could also check on http://www.catholictherapists.com or call the diocese.

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