Traditional Cooking

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  • LindseyD
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    Hi!

    For those of you who practice traditional cooking methods, I was wondering if you could share some wisdom. I’ve just dived into the foreign world of traditional cooking, and I’m learning so much. I’ve jumped in with both feet, and each new experience has been interesting and fun. 

    What are your favorite traditional cooking practices? What have been your failures and successes? How do you find your family adjusts to the new flavors? What are your favorite things to eat/drink? Kombucha?

    I’m just fascinated by all this and want to hear from others who are just as excited about it as I am.

    Blessings,

    Lindsey

    Are you talking about cooking similarly to the book, Nourishing Traditions? Or something entirely different? 🙂

    ebcsmom
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    Are you talking about whole foods as in Nourishing Traditions?

    LindseyD
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    Yep! Those are the practices to which I refer. 😉

    Misty
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    I just made 5 gallons of Kombucka yesterday (or I helped as I’m teaching my 11yr old to do it).  Other than water that is the only thing we keep in the house for our kids to drink!  Some like it some don’t, dh dislikes it terribly.

    I am also getting more into this type of cooking and I think just starting with some staple things.  Like we made the soft tacos that someone posted here at SCM, and they were easy and great.  We are still trying to perfect our yogurt, though not bad just runny (help to thicken would be great) so it’s been made into smoothies.

    After the heat wave here and my dh lets me turn the stove back on I’m going to try making my own bread.  One step at a time.  Also, something I did  a couple years ago was to just stop making things from “things” you know it needs to be all ingredients not add a box of this or a can of this.  The only thing I haven’t done is make my own broth unless I get it while cooking a turkey or something.

    Good luck and I can’t wait to hear other peoples thoughts. Misty  (Ps we use to do Kefir and loved it but something happen and it turned brown and icky and I had to throw it out.  Anyone have some grains for me?  LOL)

    ebcsmom
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    We currently grind all our own wheat,spelt,kamut and cornmeal. We are raw milk,kefir, and koumbocha drinkers. We try to use only natural sugars, honey, pure maple syrup, succanat, rapadura, and stevia. We love to consume about 85-90%% of our diet whole foods from our own garden, and farm. There are some great sites and blogs that are whole foods as well, let me know if you want some links.

    One important thing though, this is just how we choose to eat, we aren’t always perfect we still have occasional greasy burger, or junk. We never want these things to become and idol in our life, which is VERY easy to do when trying to convert to this way of eating because there is so much preparation involved with cooking everything from scratch. This way of eating doesn’t make us better than the next person who eats processed foods all day, and its God who is in control of our health whether we eat 100% natural or not.Smile  I would take one step at a time, small steps as this is a learning process everyday and we are still learning!Smile Good luck on starting your journey!

    LindseyD
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    I guess I should have mentioned that we already grind our flour, eat raw milk, yogurt, and cheese, and buy only organic produce. We don’t use boxed items, unless I fail to plan properly. I’m just so interested in others who have made traditional methods a way of life. Over the past couple of weeks, I have made a soaked zucchini bread, clabbered milk which was made into whey and raw cream cheese, and I’ve been soaking our oats every night before bed. I’ve got our flour for sandwich bread soaking on the counter right now.

    Anyway, I was hoping some of you could share your successes and failures with me. And your best recipes or favorite traditional practices. I’m just trying to get to know others who live this lifestyle.

    Blessings!

    Rachel White
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    HI Lindsey,

      It is so great that you are learning all these things. You’re right that it is definitely a lifestyle. I’ve been on this food path for many years, between 5-8 years. It is definitely a transition that takes time and I wasn’t raised to do any kind of cooking in the first place. Slow food rules! I also believe in eating seasonally, according to G-d’s provisional design, eating as much fresh when in season while preserving for later the extras. Waste is my enemy! Our ancesters used so much of the food they were using. For example, from watermelon, using even the rind, prepared properly into pickles and jam.

     I make as much from scratch as possible, grind and flake my grains, using coconut oils, palm oil shortening, olive oil and sunflower oil (but only to halve with the olive for mayo). Make meat and vegetable stocks. Am making more lacto-fermented veges and dips, starting w/the fermented pickles, fermented salsa, bean paste, mayo, and am planning on doing more this year than last. I just made ketchup from my leftover tomato juice-yum! It tastes like a cross between ketchup and b-que sauce.

    I also soak nuts (and dehydrate), beans, flours, and cereals (including granola), soak my corn flour in limewater, started sprouting grain last year. I also make kefir, have made kombucha before and have plans to do it again-my children and I adore the taste of it and how it makes us feel.

    Also yogurt (which I am experimenting with and will post the results because I am searching for the better consistancy without using dry milk powder or gelatin). I like making butter and the resulting buttermilk, sour cream, farmer cheese and raw yogurt cheese and using the whey in ferments, for soaking, and drinking.

    Use ACV with the “mother” in it. I keep considering saving our chicken livers, but I haven’t mustered up the courage yet. Last year, I started making salad dressings (except for bleu cheese).

    We buy grass-fed meat from a farm in TN yearly, raise and butcher our own chickens and have our own eggs (all soy-free and free from GM ingredients). If I’m not making it currently, I buy the best I can, like sauerkraut preserved in salt only, not vinegar. I won’t buy seafood unless it’s wild.

    I avoid soy, hydrogenated oils, all corn syrups, artificial dyes, sulfured dried fruits, vegetable oils (except for the aforementioned sunflower), powdered milks, vital gluten, fat-free and low-fat cheeses; nitrites, nitrates and erythrobates. I avoid GM products, which means anything corn related must be organic. We already don’t eat pork products for religious reasons. I also do not cook using a pressure-cooker or microwave; beans and meats were meant to be cooked s-l-o-w-l-y. No non-stick cookware (love my cast iron passed down to me!), avoid cooking tomato products in stainless steel (but otherwise use stainless steel). For storing food, I only use glass, no plastic (unless it’s a non-food item or non-heated and being put in the freezer). Also, I’ve been trying very hard to completely avoid canned items.

    I like keeping recipes as simple as possible, not reliant upon so many out of season or out of the ordinary ingredients that are expensive and not native to my area. The farthest I like to buy from are my surrounding states; though I have to buy some things-pineapple, bananas and kiwi-from S. America (we should be able to get them from out tropical areas like S. Cal, Florida and S. Texas!)

    My immediate goals are to begin a sourdough starter, be consistant about making baked beans, pasta and pizza and continue to strive to have one fermented food per meal or at least at lunch and supper, as well as snacks. Also, to turn thins I already make into a more nutrient rich, probiotic rich food. I’m sure I’ve left a few things out on both the “doing” list and “avoidance” list.

    What recipes are you interested in? I’ve definitely had failures, but one of the great things about using real food is that usually it can be transformed into another edible food item. It’s a never ending learning experince and exciting, too! G-d, Homeschooling and food-those are my favorite topics!

    Rachel

     

    Rebekahy
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    Rachel – you’re my hero!  What an amazing transformation in so few years.  I’m much less disciplined and doubt I could accomplish all that in a lifetime!  I do hope to add some more things to my reportoire and teach my girls so they don’t have to learn all these things when they are old… speaking of kids – have yours starved to death yet?  What about your husband???  Tongue out  Mine WANTS to eat healthy, but is not very adventurous in trying NT type things or trying to like them once he has tried them.

     

    My real question is… how do you store your lactofermented items?  I would like to ferment our gallons and cucumbers, but my fear is where to store them.  We live in NE and our finished basement – though cooler than the upperstories is hardly the 50* that I think is recommended for jars – alas I was going to just pickle them, then at least they’re healthier than what we’d get in the store. 

    I’d also be curious to know how much you dehydrate.

    Thanks for taking the time to post!  Great questions, Lindsay!

    Rebekah

    Questa7
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    Rachel….amazing!  I have started several of these processes of change over the past couple of years, but am nowhere near as far along as you are.  You are very impressive.  Thanks for the comprehensive description of your food-lifestyle…I love reading about other people’s experiences and dedication to help keep myself motivated.  🙂

    LindseyD
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    Rachel, you inspire me! I forgot to mention that we’ve also changed our fats to coconut and olive oils and butter (though we can’t afford raw, grass-fed yet, but we do get organic). I have a friend who is about to finish a batch of kombucha, then she’ll give me her extra SCOBY. I’ve already ordered flip-top glass bottles for it, and I can’t wait to get started! I really enjoy watching The Healthy Home Economist’s video blogs…very informational and visual. She is a bit overpowering, but I haven’t found another site like hers for videos.

    I would love favorite recipes for sandwich bread. I tried baking some yesterday, and while it does taste good, it’s not the sandwich bread I was hoping for. I think I may have over-kneaded it. I used a recipe from Passionate Homemaking. I would also like a good cornbread recipe. I made soaked cornbread last night, and it wasn’t sweet at all. We do like our cornbread sweet! I like using baking recipes that call for sucanet or coconut sugar rather than honey. All the recipes I’ve found call for 1/4-1/2 cup of honey. I try to save our raw honey for times when we can eat it raw, not for baking.

    I also wondered if any of you used fermentation crocks or if Mason jars work just fine? I so want to try fermenting some fruits and veggies, but I just don’t know where to start. 

    I have a friend who uses all sprouted flour because she forgets to soak. What do you all use? Which is better in your opinions? That same friend said she would give me a sourdough starter, but that seems like so much work. What is your favorite bread?

    Thanks for all your responses! This is inspiring me to keep on truckin’!

    amyjane
    Participant

    Lindsey, we started this food journey about a year ago.  Then we lived in the suburbs with an extra fridge and freezer. But we were in Alabama where access to things like raw milk and pastured chickens are harder to come by.   Since moving to Seattle, access to these foods is so easy but I don’t have a freezer here (though I have about decided to get one even if it has to go in my bedroom :)).  We haven’t tried drinks of any sort yet though I want to.  I have been a bit overwhelmed at how not having freezer space has made cooking this way more difficult.  I guess because I am cooking EVERY meal, EVERY day.  Some days I miss being able to feed the kids a bowl of cereal and a piece of fruit.  Just this morning I begin to load the kids up to go through Mc Donald’s – which we haven’t eaten at in months.  All because I didn’t feel like cooking and I didn’t have anything prepared to serve them.  So this may not be the failures you were asking.  But today I am feeling like a failure because I don’t have it in me to cook another meal this week 🙂  Thankfully it is friday and the hubby loves to cook.  Oh and I stopped halfway  out the door and came in and baked the boys some muffins.  I just couldn’t bring myself to go to mcdees.  Sorry for the sob story but today eating whole foods is a burden to me.  Hopefully just for today 🙂

    LindseyD
    Participant

    Good for you, Amy, for not going to McDonald’s!!! We all have fast food moments. I have them too when I fail to plan. We all know the saying: IF YOU FAIL TO PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL. It’s so true. Think of how our grandmothers and great grandmothers must have felt at times. They didn’t even have the option of boxed cereal or McDonald’s. I’m sure they felt just like we do every once in a while.

    I couldn’t live without a deep freeze, so if you have to put it in your bed room, stick a cute lamp on top and make it a side table. LOL

    LindseyD
    Participant

    I wanted to bump this up in case someone (hint, hint, Rachel) had time to post a recipe or two…

    Wink

    Rachel White
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    Ya’ll are very kind! Though if you saw my house, your impressions may subside; I can’t seem to organize cooking with cleaning very well Yell. If I do one well, the other suffers.Cry

    Funny, I don’t feel like I’ve done enough in this time frame, though I’m proud of the things I’ve worked very hard to acheive (it doesn’t come easily, I actually don’t care for cooking; I just receive great satisfaction in the results and being more self-sufficient). It’s been about necessity as much as conviction-they came together at the same time, such a G-d thing, IMO. About 8 yrs. ago, my husband became disabled from a variety of maladies and I became the sole provider. Then in 2006, I had a tumor in my spinal cord w/syringomyelia, had surgery and had an 18 mth. recovery; then last year I had another surgery to correct a side of effect from my first one. My husband has also had 2 surgeries during this time, with another one later this summer/early fall.

    G-d brought me home with that first surgery and it has allowed me to HS and take care of him full-time. With that, we have been living on his disability money; so I have no choice sometimes but to make things from scratch, plan ahead minutely in order to make it through the month. I still have residuals from my surgeries; though, Bless HaShem, He has strengthened me (when I let Him) and given me perseverance and creativity when, since I limit our purchases from the grocery store, I look at what we have and say-what do I fix? That forces me to do something.

    Of course, I have days just like amyjane; mine as much emotional fatigue as physical tiredness. Plus, my “time”, IYKWIM, can very draining and we have many doctors appts. a month; those I have to plan ahead, too so I don’t have to make something when I get home. I’ve figured out that I have to plan for down time and my children can prepare several things on their own, esp. lunches. So in my menu planning I look at the days where there are doctors appts., time to go to synagogue (which is a huge distance), the days of shopping and for  “that time”. I actually write on my meal list how many meals it will make (ex: 1 meal and 1 lunch, 2 meals and 1 lunch, etc), that way I can decide as the days pass, what to make.

    Probably close to 2 weeks worth of meals that are either throw in the oven, using leftovers, or easy to pull together. Even though I have strong beliefs, I am also a pragmatic person, so the 80/20 rule applies-I won’t kill myself over food.

    Traditional cooking definitely requires advance planning no matter your station in life. Our ancesters were raised within that planning tradition, whereas I was not; so the habits that must be developed can be quite challenging. However, it can be done and you’ll find your rhythm-what do I need to soak this week? When to make yogurt? when to make our breads for our meals?- still figuring out a schedule.

    Rachel

     

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