It depends, if you mean you love aspects of CM but another method appeals as well and you think it would blend well in your family, then you could become what I am and that is an eclectic homeschooler…someone who uses a lot of CM, but also has used some textbooks, and has used some DVD schooling. On the other hand if you are thinking of going from CM to unschooling – I would be very careful – having read a lot about unschooling, I think you would need pretty dedicated kids to go that route and I know it would have been a disaster in this house – they would have done zero given the chance,lol….Can you be more specific maybe? Linda
Pray. You know how to receive the answers. Do your homework, choose a solution, take it to the Lord. Then don’t doubt Him. If you still have those niggling “grass is greener over there” moments, go to Him again, tell Him your feelings and ask Him what He wants you to do with them.
Before/during/after prayer, keep the idea of habit in mind. What would the “habits” of each method look like each day? What methodical habits would best serve your family? Speaking from bad experience, if you don’t consider this, or spend too much time learning about all the various methods, no particular habits are established and you end up spinning your wheels and going no where. It would be better not to look at any methods/opinions and just help your children read the next page, do the next math problem, and work on character and Bible studies than to get bogged down by method decisions. We all go through this and it is very destructive if you drag your feet too long fretting over which is better/best. Studying works no matter how you approach it as long as you do it. ;0) I hope I don’t sound harsh. Just a warning as I lost lots of time over the years for these very reasons.
I’ve always been drawn towards the Independant Learning model… but I’m also drawn to CM, and the family learning. No way to really combine those that I can figure….
Independant Learning – small number of subjects… basically Reading, Writing, Math… with total focus on that for the first year or so. Other subjects are learned within the reading. Student gets motivated by goal setting and progress. Either the time is specified for each subject (some variations have long times), or time is set aside for school and student determines how long to do each subject. What books etc are used is determined by parents.
CM – lots and lots of subjects, short times for each subject. In my prefered method (as on here) many subjects are done as a family, with some independant reading to go along with it (so at a scheduled pace) – good literature etc.
I can’t see any way to reconcile the two, yet am drawn to both.
Well, I’m one that believes there’s always a way to mesh:) A friend of mine does a combo of AO and Robinson Curriculum (very independent). She just started and I believe suspended much of the arts, but is planning on adding them back in, just at her own pace. My mind just doesn’t work well seeing tons of subjects on my schedule, even though I know many of the CM subjects are short. So my compromise, though not ideal CM, is we just started a monthly “Arts Day.” Our first one was beautiful. Cocoa, snacks, and several ‘arts’ subjects done leisurely. Kids were excited (easier day:) and I just loved that we could delve into subjects and go off on tangents instead of feeling that reading about a composer or artist was a box to check (confession:) Then the rest of the month I just build on this day as I can…displaying art prints, playing music, reading poems about the artists/composers/poet we read about on Arts Day. We also try to add in Handicrafts on this day, nature study, an art project, Lambs Shakespeare…we can’t do all of them each month, I’ll rotate. I’m also trying to get in the handicrafts and nature during fieldtrips or on weekends at our leisure…making it more of our life and not written into our week. Just not seeing it on our schedule every week frees my mind and feels less stressed.
I also choose to do semesters and only do 2 artists/composers/poets per year. Again, I know not ideal CM! But for me, it’s better than scheduling and stressing because I don’t get to it. This all makes our week feel less stressful…focusing on the essentials, but still all with quality living books, of course, and cultural elements still there.
I combine AO and SCM. AO, as you probably know, is pretty independent learing from 4th grade on…you could always follow that model, but make your own schedule, use different books from SCM, etc. Sorry if that all sounds complicated! Hope you find a good fit. Blessings, Gina
We’ve found a way to reconcile both CM (to some degree) and Independent learning. Could you pin point what you are drawn to in each method and then try to fit those things together? I personally do not think it has to be an either/or method. They do and can mesh beautifully .
Ok, please don’t take this the wrong way – I am just giving thought to something. Most definitely pray, and listen for the answer…
I sometimes think we are drawn to independent learning when we ourselves are frustrated at the method we are already using. Maybe we don’t think we are doing it right, maybe we feel it takes too much of our time, maybe it is a combination of things. End idea being that we think independent learning means we can leave the children to learn independently a lot of the time…depending on the children this can work, however with the very young it usually is not the greatest way to school imho….make sure you are solid in your reasoning before praying and changing, make sure you understand why you the mom wants to change – make sure it is a good and solid reason. Sometimes when we start changing methods with our children it can be stressful and set things back…make a plan and don’t start anything without some serious thought and discussion with God and your hubby. If after thinking about your reasons for change, and discussions, then you can be pretty sure you are on the right track. I remember a period where I changed things up in a significant way without enough prayer and thought, and boy did I regret it, it set us back a long way…and took some real work to get back on track….Linda
I had read something not to long ago that summed it up for me. Different States are better in different subjects. For instance, Indiana has the best science, I beleive it was California that had the best Math, Ect…Instead of the public schools all having a great curriculm they are only really good at one thing. Why should we expect that any one curriculm is going to be the best for our situation and our children and their learning style. I personally break it down. I do “Math-u-see” for Math. “English from the Roots” up for Latin/greek, “Uncle Josh’s Maps” for a Geography/Map study CM science/nature Study and History ect… I throw in a few other things here and there to meet their particular needs at the time. Some CM some Sonlight, some other things as I see they have an interest in at the time. It is not that I don’t want to do one curriculm because it would be much easier. LOL 🙂 but I see a need in my children that I think they can grow deeper in. If it doesn’t work then I toss the great idea. So far I have come up with some pretty good ideas that even surprise myself. I love the CM method and try to do it to the best of my ability but I see that this works for me and my children to mix it up a bit. Why shouldn’t we have the best in Math, Science, English ect…? Pray and if you feel led to try something what can it hurt to do so. A few dollars on a book? You can always sell it if it doesn’t work out for your family. On the other hand, you may find that what you were doing was really working for you more than you thought…… 🙂
Hope this helps in some way if not to just make you feel better, not more confused! 🙂
Ok – I’ve had some chocolate, and my husband made me a banana split, and I feel much better… lol.
The picture painted of the “independant learner” looks inviting – the children learn to learn without needing constant help. My kids are still young, and it seems like I have to teach them everything. It seems like every subject, the choices I’ve made mean mom teaching them for a long time… for instance…
math – we are doing rightstart (which I love) – but that means about 20-30 minutes for each child. Right now my oldest 2 are at the same point, so that is done together… And it is a fair number of years of me teaching them. I don’t want to change it as it as the best math program I’ve seen for us.
reading – I still have to listen to my 8yo read, as well as my 6yo… and honestly this is a subject that isn’t getting done enough. Then of course there is literature where I read to them… etc. This is an area I’d have to really focus on and get going better if we wanted to do independant…..
spelling – we are just doing a bit right now (partly to make sure the phonics is in there, to possibly help with the reading…) – but once my oldest is 9 (about grade 4) I want to do Spelling Wisdom – which requires…. me for dictation.
history – family oriented, with me reading
science – family oriented, with me reading.
I guess one concern I see with the way we are doing things, is if I’m having a bad day – it affects everyone… whereas if they were independant, they could still do school. On a broader scale with that… well my dh has some health issues. This isn’t something I like to think about… but I have serious doubts that he is going to live the next 18 years…. at some point I may very easily be a single mom having to do something to make money… and that could very much mess up homeschooling. If they are doing an independant method – well I’d be more likely to be able to homeschool them while I work out of the home….
The other thing – with most of our subjects being family subjects – if one of the kids is having a bad day it affects everyone. Whereas if they were independant – the one child could get all their work done and do things they enjoy while the other is busy having their tantrum or whatever… and then having to do their work after…. right now if one isn’t doing what they are supposed to, it messes up everyone.
Also, independant learning can allow children to focus a bit more time to the subjects they are truly interested in, while still doing what is needed in the others.
having done some thinking – although I haven’t reconciled things – I do realize that as the kids get older, more will be done independantly. I do need to get them reading more on their own too. When it comes down to it, that Robinson Curriculum (which I was looking at) is basically a list of books (probably mostly public domain) and a set of rules that I wouldn’t likely totally agree with anyway. I like the things I’ve picked out to do with the kids… and a lot of times I do like family subjects.
So, I’m not likely doing any major switching anytime soon….
I always tell others we do the 3Rs with a CM flair.
I love CM teachings. I love great books and narrating. Gotta love Copywork.
I pick out great Living History, Living Science, & Lit books — they each do a Math lesson everyday.
Some do Teaching Textbooks. 2 Boys do Saxon.
They do about 2 hours of reading– then little ones narrate to me.
Older ones do a 1 page written narration of something they read that day.
Copywork for littles.
We have family reading time with Bible, and anything that I feel like at that moment. Could be character study. Then they take turns narrating— youngest to oldest.
So– it can be done— with 7 children– this works best for us and me
Give it a try– if it’s what you want— you can always switch back.
I have/use parts of RC. When I speak if moving toward independent though, I mean able to read and comprehend without my help. SCM is a much better fit for my family as far as long range than RC. I do like the simple daily structure of RC in the beginning over SCM. Mainly because with multiple children I have been, to this point, unable to tackle the number if subjects with such a wide range if abilities. That’s a self discipline/habit issue for the most part for me. But, as the kids each became/become better readers, the middle to upper grades if SCM is much more life like than RC. ;0)
Glad you feel better – trust me, as the children get a little older they can do so much more independently, and then they can also do written narrations along with their oral ones, you can make the CM method work the way you want, by tweaking – but in a very short time, these children will be learning a lot by themselves with you as their cheer leader and mentor more than total hands on help. Linda
How to you guys read my mind and heart? What a timely topic, ladies! I am suddenly leaning toward unschooling these last 10 days or so, but with a CM/classical emphasis. We’re heading off for a vacay, so in two weeks, maybe I’ll have some better insight and some clear answers from the One Who Knows.
In the meantime, can someone tell me if this example is Unschooling”? …..
We had a pretty much self-directed day so far today. The girls have been playing school by themselves in the mornings for a few days, which has resulted in my 4yo dd making her letters very well, recognizing printed letters and numbers on sight, and starting to sound out small words such as in, on, cat, bat, rat, etc. The 7yo dd has begun to print her letters more perfectly, trying to show the 4yo exactly how they should be made. Fun! They jointly pick a topic each day and then the 7yo reads several books to the 4yo aloud. Most days, they draw pictures of what they learned, being careful to put their name and date on each picture. (all without my supervision or direction.)
After they got bored of that this morning (about 9am), they came down and when I asked what their topic was for today, they said animals. So we got out every single book we have about animals (wide range from fiction to dictionaries and everything in between.) I have about 200 books laying out on the floor right now. They also made a reading “nook” wioth a bunch of pillows and proceeded to read to each other then to just leaf through separately for almost 2 hours.
After that, they decided they wanted to make some art projects of some animals. They picked Bald Eagle and Wooly Bear Caterpillar.
Now they are outside trying to take pictures of eagles and posing their caterpillar paper chains in the snow for pictures.
We even taked about the concept of squaring in math – we learned what “one square inch” looks like, and discussed what one square mile, yard, meter, foot, etc would look like. Just so we could cut an 8 square inch piece of brown construction paper for the eagle’s wings.
ALL of this was directed by them. Does that make it Unschooling? If so, I’m so ready to sign up! 🙂 Any advice is welcome and a huge blessing as we figure things out…
Sorry Jenni – can’t help on that – unschooling always sounded like fun, but I wanted a little more structure for us. I used an eclectic approach a lot of CM and texts for math/science. As the girls got older I gave them more input into how and what we did and read, and I geared the science to the interest of the child, so my daughter in high school did an equine science course after bio, and the other a marine biology after her regular bio. I gave them booklists and made my recommendations and I am pleased to say they read most all of them – there is a lot of freedom in homeschooling even with a more structured set up. I wish you luck in whatever you decide and a very happy and safe vacay….Linda