Hi, I am beginning slowly to plan for next year. Who’s with me? I struggle every year on what to use and how to approach the struggling learner in math or the one who is older and want to be separated from us now. Anyone share the same struggles? I have been reading a lot of Charlottes methods the last few weeks and still trying to grasp it all. I have 3 children left at home, a incoming 9th grader 🙁 went to fast, a dd12 and a dd9. I have read a lot about grammar and copy work ect. what about vocab? Do you use a workbook with words like Sandy Queens, or do you make up words as you go?
Could I get some opinions on what I have so far?
DS 14
Math Geometry unknow text
Science Biology co-op
History world History ?
L.A writing/speech co-op
DD12
Math unknown what to use. She is really struggling with memorizing math facts
Science MFW
Copywork, spelling wisdom, Jump in, vocab, grammar
History MFW ECC
DD9
Math: Math lessons for a living Education by Angela O’Dell
We’re using Fix It Grammar which includes 1 vocabulary word each day. (And covers our grammar and copywork too.)
For your 12yo – is it multiplication facts? We love the stories on Multiplication.com as a different way to learn them. Click on the “Learn” tab to find them.
Here is an example, though they offer pictures, video, and other neat parts to bring it to life for kids:
6 x 8 = 48 is the story of Chicks (shaped like the number 6) on Skates (shaped like the number 8) who eat a cake decorated like a fort – Fort E Cake (48) while on their skates. Once kids are familiar with the stories you can use the cue words: chicks skate. In every problem 6 is chicks and 8 is skate. So there is a problem with surfin (7) chicks (6) who visit the Fort E Zoo (42) (7×6=42). You get the idea. Some of my kids never needed this, others truly only began to remember certain facts when they could put a story to it.
Multiplication.com also has lots of free games to practice facts (everything from addition to division).
We are using Math Lessons for a Living Education too. I like Math U See for the older kids. For struggling math students, doing problems with them is the best. It is difficult to do math independently if they are struggling.
Have you looked at the free curriculum guide here? It will give you suggestions for all subjects for all ages.
Here’s what we have used and liked through the years.
Math U See for all grades
For years I pulled copy work and dictation exercises from the books my kids were reading. I really think this is the most effective way to teach these things since the passages really mean something to them. However, I grew tired of this and ended up purchasing a program called Simply Spelling that provided the passages for me. Spelling Wisdom is great for this as well.
Vocabulary is not a separate subject in a CM education but something children pick up naturally from reading so many great books. People with advanced vocabularies are usually readers.
No writing curriculum is needed if you follow CM’s philosophy. Written narrations are composition and parents give added instruction to help turn these narrations in to essays as they student progresses through high school. A brief teaching on research papers sometime in late high school would probably be good for college bound students. Each student should have his own copy of a good writing handbook to read through as well.
If a parent really feels they need a writing curriculum, I would still hold off until middle school, at least. Many moms love Jump in for this age.
No formal grammar instruction is needed until middle school or so and then it can be taught in one or two years and the student can be done with grammar. We have used Easy Grammar Plus and Step by Step Grammar at this age.
I don’t care much for Sandi Queen’s language lessons. You just don’t get much for your money and the exercises are so short that they can easily turn into busy work that your child just rushes through with little to no comprehension.
Angela O’dell’s histories are not very CM either. I recommend Simply Charlotte Mason’s program or another living books program instead. O’dell’s books just don’t engage a child the way true living books do.
I have mostly designed my own history plans using living books. However, I have used a bit of Truthquest, Beautiful Feet History, and Ambleside Online and I recommend them all. I just prefer to do my own thing, for the most part. I pull from the book lists from all of these resources including the ones here at SCM.
For vocabulary, those of mine who were better readers generally learned vocabulary through the reading assigned, especially literature. When doing read-alouds, I typically defined words as we went along, usually asking them first if they could figure out or knew what they meant.
However, as someone else said, struggling readers often need additional vocabulary help. I pulled words out of the week’s literature reading (especially when they read independently) and created a list on Quizlet. There are a couple of games, practice drills/flashcards, and testing options on Quizlet. It worked fairly well for my readers.
Yes, its multiplication facts. We have been working on them for 2 years now and she has some memorized but struggles with many. She will turn 12 in few weeks. Thanks for the websites. I will be using Jump in this year with her and Easy grammar I think. We also will continue with spelling wisdom. Is this to much?
Melanie,
I use O’Dells math with my youngest right now. Thanks for the heads up on her other stuff. I don’t know why im struggling with putting together a language program. I guess because im new to this and I majored in English and trying to get past the that. If you or someone else can lay it out more clearly that would be great. I would need it for my dd12 and dd9 (she just turned 9) I didn’t start school with her until she was 6. She just wanted to play games and be a little girl. 🙂 My dd12 really struggles with spelling as well, as I shared math facts. So its very frustrating for me. We did start this year using Spelling wisdom and doing it very slowly. She has learned about 6 new words in the last few weeks! YAY!!!!! So it does work I just need more time maybe. I am going to use Jump in, I like the easy format of the program. What is a common place book? do I use that with both girls? Your all probably wondering why I haven’t included my ds14 in the conversation. He is doing amazing. 🙂 Thanks for all your help and input. I greatly appreciate all of you. 🙂
I recommend checking out the SCM blog to see how language arts works for the ages of your children. You will find blog series on all things CM and they will really help you to wrap your brain around CM methods.
Your 9 year old would be doing copy work, reading books at her reading level, and hearing you read books above her reading level to her. She would also be doing dictation once a week.
At 12, your daughter should be doing dictation once or twice a week along with copy work on the other days. She should be writing one or two narrations a week as well as reading books on her level.
Both children should be narrating orally from all school readings.
That covers CM language arts for those ages! 🙂 Sounds simple, doesn’t it? Well, CM methods are simple but they go deep. Narration is oral composition first and then progresses to regular composition which naturally transitions into essays as the student grows older. Try narrating yourself and see how much brain work it takes. A student cannot narrate what he doesn’t know and a student knows what he can narrate. It is a simple but highly effective educational tool.
Copying from great authors is teaching our children proper writing skills, spelling, vocabulary, punctuation, etc. Dictation adds spelling and focused attention to the mix.
Reading lots of great literature is the single, best thing our children can do to succeed in language arts. As they read and hear beautiful language, proper grammar, intricate sentences, proper punctuation, and advanced vocabulary, they will take in so much-they are like little sponges just soaking it all up until it becomes part of who they are.
Angela O’Dell’s books aren’t awful. They are decent as far as textbooks go. They are certainly better than most textbooks but they definitely are not living books in my opinion. They wouldn’t be terrible as history spines. However, I think there are much better books out there for this purpose. I really like Helen Guerber’s history books for your daughters’ ages. They are free in the public domain or you can purchase hard copies.
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