Redeeming Holy Days from Pagan Lies Article

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  • October 24, 2012 at 9:15 pm
    blue j
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    Here is a timely article for consideration: Redeeming HOly Days From Pagan Lies. I have never considered the idea that the pagan influence was not the start, as they themselves claim but rather a co-opting of a church festival.

    October 24, 2012 at 10:38 pm
    blue j
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    BTW, I did not post this with the intention of starting up the discussion as to whether or not we choose to participate. 🙂  I am more interested in the idea that pagan/ wiccan influences were the ones going back and re-writing history to suit their goals.

     

    October 24, 2012 at 11:07 pm
    jmac17
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    Thanks, I enjoyed that article.  I was curious a few weeks ago when reading the thread about Halloween, since so many people seemed so against the holiday.  I didn’t know enough to comment, but it was interesting to read everyone’s perspective.  I only knew that the word Halloween was from ‘All Hallows Eve’ and that it was a day to celebrate the Saints, so all the talk on that old thread about pagan festivals confused me.  Now I understand better!  One thing that I’ve heard, but he didn’t mention in the article, is that the whole “goblins, ghosts, and spooky things” tradition was about chasing away evil so that the Saints could be properly honoured the next day. Does anyone know anything about that?  Not that it will change my families approach to the holiday, (which is that we just enjoy a day to dress up, with no other significance) but now I’m curious.

    Joanne

    October 24, 2012 at 11:13 pm
    MissusLeata
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    All Saints Day is celebrated in MX. When I lived there, there wasn’t much that you would have called “holy” about the way the Catholic church there celebrated it.

    They would take offerings of food out to the graves to honor the dead. Since saints are worshipped in the catholic church in MX, it was really pagan to me.

    I don’t know if it was like that in the beginning of the holiday or not. It’s hard to know what some of the early church practices were.

    October 24, 2012 at 11:46 pm
    Rachel White
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    @missusleata: if MX means Mexico, you’re referring to Day of the Dead; it is a macabre celebration apparently leftover from the Aztec civilization. Pagan (anti-Bible) ancestor worship combined with Catholic theology. The Conquistadors couldn’t get rid of it (originally a month long observance) so they combined it into All Saints and All Soul’s Day. It is disturbing.

    I must say that I don’t see why Protestants would celebrate All Saint’s Day and/or All Soul’s Day anyway as the definition of saints, their functions, post-mortem interaction with them, purgatory, etc. are very different between the two theologies. I understand why Lutherans want to remember Oct. 31 as Reformation day.

    October 25, 2012 at 12:26 am
    Wings2fly
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    Thanks for sharing. I found the article linked to in the comments section of that article of more interest:

    http://witness.lcms.org/pages/wPage.asp?ContentID=849&IssueID=48

    October 25, 2012 at 12:38 am
    MissusLeata
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    @Rachel…..Yes, the Day of the Dead. That makes sense that it was combined with something local. That’s my only exposure to any form of christianizing All Saint’s Day and it just wasn’t very Christian at all.

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