I know how CM taught reading. Yet how do we select the poems we use? I know ideally it should be something the child hasn’t heard before. But so many nursery rhymes have nonsense words. Do I avoid those or not? Also, what is a good number of poems to cover in a year? Would twenty be too many?
Yes, you’d want to avoid nonsense poems, at least in the first 3-4 yrs. of poetry exposure. Mine are older so I let in a little nonsense in there only occasionally.
Mother Goose is the best place to start, IMO. Ambleside Online has a poetry order according to years and many free online. Most peole I know started with the Robert Louis Stevenson’s Child’s Garden of Verses, especially the one illustrated by Tasha Tudor (the one we have). Christina Rosetti is another good one.
My children have also enjoyed reading aloud themselves from a 3 volume series of poetry books reprinted by Yesterday’s Classics called A Child’s Own Book of Verse. The first volume is targeted to be read to and/or by children as young 5 yrs. old. Highly recommended. As they get older mine have also enjoyed Poems Every Child Should KNow, which is free to listen to at Librivox and you can download it, too. I like the wide exposure as well as targeted study.
Nursery Rhymes are wonderful. I know it does seem like nonsense to us as adults, but it’s fun for them and not really nonsense in their minds (think of all the imaginary activities they engage in that we find silly and odd?) and helps them in their speech and literary development. This article explains it well. Both of mine still like to read our worn copy occasionally on their own.
Though I would choose the timeless rhymes, not any newer ones, personally; but I have a tendency to only choose books that were written prior to the 1950’s for quality and content purposes.
I didn’t mean to suggest I was opposed to nursery rhymes; I’m not. That’s what I plan to use. I was just wondering about the words dd would only see in those rhymes, such as dickory, diddle, porgy, that sort of thing.
Also, how many should I plan to use per year? No one has addressed that part of my question.
Read and recite poetry aloud frequently, enjoying the poem together. You can read poems about nature, the seasons, holidays, and life events. Or you can focus on the poems of one poet for a few weeks, reading a biography about that poet sometime during those weeks. Occasionally assign a poem for dictation or recitation.
I also looked in my book When Children Love to Learn(a CM education book) and although it doesn’t speak specifically to the age you’re speaking of and nursery rhymes she has that CM taught that:
poetic teaching takes place each and every day. This teaching need not encompass whole class periods, but just times of repetition in which memorized poetry is recited, or stanzas read (here a little, there a little), or a formal lesson given using poetry classified as a lyric (I’d place Mother Goose in this category), epic, or ballad. Also, it reads that CM taught to “read poetry every day”
Further on it reads to:
Store a child’s memory with a good deal of poetry without a good deal of labor. Hearing and reading the poems frequently allow the child to take in the words and meaning naturally without the great effort of memorizing. It is recommended that two poets and their works are introduced to the students each year.
I hope that helps clarify a bit. I assume your child is around 4, 5 or 6 at the oldest? If younger than that, I wouldn’t worry about studying a specific poet yet or the recitation. Just read to her what you choose to daily and when she can to herself out loud (practices read aloud skills and the ‘flow’ of poetry), then move into the other poets. The SCM list of poets is very good. As you can see there are variables between SCM at 1 poet a year in depth (combined w/an Anthology), AO at 3 a year and quoting from the book above, 2 a yr; of course, keep in mind that these amounts are referring to ages 6 and up, once “formal” schooling begins.
You specifically asked if 20 were too much. I personally don’t think so if you’re just reading for pleasure, but I never required memorizing; we are somewhat informal at this point. Some people, after their children are older, have a poetry box for the same purpose as a Scripture memory box for formal learning. We have always just read different ones and enjoyed them daily. I have found that they remember certain phrases from poetry on their own. They enjoy reading poetry aloud from the Verse books I mentioned above-my son read one on Thanksgiving about Thanksgiving from it this year, of his own choosing. Mine also do poetry as copywork. Again, mine are 9 and 10. This being our fourth year, this is the first time we’re being formal, as I’m reading a bio of a specific poet and we are going through the RLS’s poetry specifically along w/RLS’s bio, then we’ll move on to someone else and go into more depth as each year passes. However, we will continue reading a variety of poetry selections as the SCM link recommends. I only plan the 2-3 poets, other than that, I don’t plan exactly how many we read.
I hope I’ve answered your question…if not, maybe someone else has something better to add. Summing up: informal daily reading before 6/7 and then a combo of informal and formal daily scheduling at 6 or 7 with memorizing and recitation.
oh, I forgot to definitely recommend you try to get A.A. Milne’s collection of children’s poetry to listen to. My children didn’t really understand or appreciate it until older, but they enjoyed listening to the flow oflanguage and the topics had to do with children’s ideas and thoughts. So if you’re interested, seek out an audio version first (preferably one with a British accent). Mine were as young as 3 when listening to it in their rest times and play times in the background.
I’m not having a problem with what to read aloud to dd. But when the time comes to teach her to read, do I teach her using those nursery rhymes with made-up words or do I stick to those such as Little Pussy (recommended by Hearing and Reading), Mary Had a Little Lamb, and Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, that have words she will see all the time?
Great question and great discussion, ladies. You’re right, there is a difference between which poems you read aloud and share together for Poetry sessions and which poems you would want to use for Reading lessons.
For Poetry read-alouds, we want to use poems that are classics and that show the enjoyment of playing with words. But we also need to keep in mind that the children should have fun but not nonsense.
As to Reading lessons, Charlotte recommended both poetry and prose. She used poetry for the first lesson and then seemed to encourage using prose more, because it would contain words more commonly used and seen. (Sounds like she had the same concerns you have, Karen.) So go ahead and use a good classic poem to start with, maybe two, then you might want to use a short Aesop’s fable or a Scripture verse to keep variety in your lessons.
Sneak Peek for our Forum Friends: We are about to release a beginning reading kit designed like Charlotte described in her writings. I’m so excited! It’s at the printer now. It will include these reading selections: a Stevenson poem, two Scripture verses, an Aesop’s fable, and a short letter from the author after the style of Beatrix Potter. Look for it in just a couple of weeks.
As to how many to use, Charlotte talked about the possibility of covering about 1,000 words in a year using her method; but as always, teach the child, not the curriculum. I would recommend you select several passages of various genre and just start working through them at your child’s pace. With the four selections listed above in our kit, the child will learn more than 950 words (including the 100 most commonly used words); however, we don’t put a time limit on the lessons. We encourage the parent to go slowly, securing the ground under her child’s feet.
Does that help at all, or just raise more questions?
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