I have been becoming more and more aware of my 12 year older poor grammar when speaking. I have often just corrected him and moved on, but now that he is starting to do more written narrations, I am becoming more and more aware that this is a real problem. Only a moment ago I over heard my 8 year old telling him that “standed isn’t a word. You should have said you stood outside the door.”. Of course big brother argued that yes, standed is a word. (I don’t think little brother correcting him went over too well.)
Anyway, it has become obvious to me that I need to focus more on verb tenses and usage. We’re still trying to get him to use spaces, punctuation and complete sentences.
I am wondering if I should start a more formal grammar curriculum (right now I am only addressing the above mentioned errors regularly. We are not dwelling on spelling yet because all of these things are so difficult for him. I would like him to type more assignments, but my laptop is on it’s last legs, so we don’t use it very often. We use my playbook most often to look things up. Also, unless I turn off the auto correct, it will correct his spelling and grammar. I can’t decide if that’s good or bad.
Formal grammar is on our list for next year, though I’ve still not decided if I will go with Easy Grammar PLUS or something else. Should I bump this up and start sooner?
It is a dilemma isn’t it? First though, I would never never have the computer correct anything they spell. In fact, I embarrassed myself badly by having it turned off a few months ago. I’m working on a degree online, and I submitted a paper that didn’t do as well as usual. The comments were that I should have corrected the mistakes that my computer had underlined for me. Apparently, when I submitted my paper, the corrections showed up for the instructor; but they had not been on my screen! I couldn’t have felt more stupid. How lazy he must have thought I was!
Anyway, does your son do copywork? My kids were asking me today why they do that. We haven’t done that much of it, but I think I see improvements since we started. Just make sure it is good quality and correctly written literature or whatever they copy from. We don’t do poetry or scripture because sometimes those have strange punctuation, spelling, capitalization, or they aren’t complete sentences.
I’m not sure formal grammar would address the problems you’re talking about. I guess at some point a grammar program might tell him standed is not a word, but you could probably just correct it as it comes up for now like you do already. Do you let it slide sometimes, or just say the correct word to him every time? It’s tiresome, I know. I have a 10 year old that sounds like your son. The writing is a major chore, spelling is very creative and punctuation–forget it. He’d rather draw.
I don’t think I’ve been any help. Maybe someone else will have an idea for you.
Yes my son does regular copy work, though not as often the last few weeks as we’ve been starting cursive, so the only his weekly Bible verse is still being used for copy work. We use the verses given to his class at our church and they are always presented in the NIrV, so I’ve yet to run into an issue with word or punctuation in those verses.
The thing is that he is a good reader, and enjoys reading far more than our younger son who is actually a much better reader. Spelling, language and reading comes amazingly easy to him, but older ds struggles with anything written, usually becasue he gets so bogged down in the mechanics. He will write long narrations if he knows spelling, grammar, etc. don’t count and he won’t have to rewrite, but if he knows he has to rewite a good copy I’m lucky to get three (very short) sentences.
Sounds so much like my son. My husband gave 2 of our kids the weak writing gene and it missed 2 of them. My husband struggles with feeling like he can’t write. He thinks he could get better jobs etc. So I really want to help my 2 that have a hard time. I wish I knew what to do exactly. The 2 other kids are amazing writers, and I don’t even think I taught them that much.
Unfortunately, people will judge intelligence by the ability to write. Although, I have to say, my oldest son has tutored English at college; and he says no one can write. Even things we would get from that college would be poorly written. He said once he wanted to tutor the whole world! He usually didn’t help the others fix their papers; they just had to start over most of the time.
I do think that a lot of reading will help. My young son doesn’t seem to spell when he writes, but he knows when a word is spelled correctly when he sees it. It’s like a disconnect between his brain and hand. Maybe I’ll have him look more carefully over his writing. I’m not sure that’ll help, because when he reads it aloud to me he doesn’t see the problem.
Oh, sometimes I have typed out my girls’ writing for them to go over. I typed it exactly as they wrote it. They were able to see the mistakes more easily, because it was like reading a book with mistakes. I had forgotten all about that. Maybe it’s worth a try for you too. I’ll be doing that today for my son–thanks for helping me remember it.
My son does have dysgraphia, which explains his problems with writing, but he is very bright and can converse on many different subjects, narrates orally well, but likes to invent words, it seems. I have noticed that I need to make a point of having him read aloud more as he will sometimes mispronounce a word.
I would just keep plugging along. I guess if you know he has a reason for having some of the troubles he has, you can emphasize he strengths and lovingly work on his weaknesses. I guess that’s what we all need to do with all our kids anyway huh?
I am not one to usually chime in, I usually do the asking! I just read this, and again hear my own concerns with my son. We have ditched all Grammar curricula and are plugging our way through Barton Reading and Spelling. It will suffice for English, Spelling, and will have a “composition” supplement after we get to level 4. Our public school special ed. folks were kind enough to loan us this very expensive curricula for anyone who struggles with most all the above mentioed issues. You might try taking a look at the Barton website. We will stick it out even through Highschool if that is what it takes. We will simply call it our “English’ on transcript, because it covers grammar, reading, and will introduce writing while learning how to spell etc.
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