OT: Preparing room for # 4

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  • mrsmccardell
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    Now I have plenty of time as baby isn’t due until mid-June but depending on which way we go, it may involve some training, which is why I’m thinking of this now.  

    We live in a 4-bedroom house.  Currently dd6 and ds5 share a bedroom while dd2 is in her own room in a crib.  Quiet time has my ds in the shared bedroom and my dd is in the extra room and dd2 is asleep in her own room.  I am trying to figure out where to put baby.  I can make the extra bedroom for baby but then that takes away a room for quiet time.  Should I leave dd2 in a crib or switch her to a bed (we have another crib so it’s not a problem).  Dd2 sometimes wakes up at night so I don’t want her and baby to share right away.  I like the idea of a playroom upstairs but I also like the idea of baby’s own room until it gets older.  Any thoughts?

    Tristan
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    I may not be a lot of help, we do things completely differently! I’m expecting #8 and we’re in a 3 bedroom house. The baby/crib is in mommy and daddy’s bedroom. This means they can nap easily any time, they are close by at night, etc. Rigth now the 11 month old is there, but he’ll move out before summer when baby #8 arrives.

    Then we have 2 other bedrooms. In one is DD11, DD7, and DS2. This is the room we’ll move the youngest to this spring. The girls are in a bunk bed, the 2 year old on a toddler mattress on the floor.

    The second kid bedroom is DS8, DS5, and DS3. The 8 and 5 year old are in a bunk bed, the 3 year old in a toddler bed.

    For daily quiet time we currently have the oldest two in each bedroom on their beds. The 2 and 3 year olds are downstairs on the couches near mommy (one naps every day, one is hit or miss but can look at books if he wishes. The 11 month old naps on his own timetable so he may or may not be asleep in his crib during quiet time. The 3 year old is going on 4 and will be allowed to do quiet time upstairs in his bed in the room with 2 older brothers at age 4. At our house that is a big privelage and the kids want to stay in bed so they don’t have to come back down to the couch with the ‘little kids’. I already know he can do it because bedtime has him in his bed with the rest of the older kids and going to sleep just fine.

    A suggestion to help with others not waking when baby wakes – buy white noise machines for each bedroom. It also helps baby sleep better. It makes a huge difference – enough that when we take the 11 month old for surgeries we bring a white noise machine for his hospital room every time and he sleeps better even with all the alarms, machines, and vitals checks day andnight. (He’s had one spine and five brain surgeries in his 11 months).

    I have found most of mine are better sleepers sooner when the house is not “silent”. I don’t have the children be quiet as mice when the baby is trying to nap, but they may only use indoor voices. Because of that my babies have all slept through just about anything during the day. Only one of mine was especially sensitive to noise and couldn’t shut down and nap if the normal household noises were going on around them. We have never put the baby in their own room, it sets them up for having a hard time transitioning to sharing a room IMO. At our house you are going to have to share a room, so we just start out that way so there is less retraining later on.

    My all time favorite books about sleep for children are the No-Cry series by Elizabeth Pantley. Wonderful! She has 3 specific to sleep: The No-Cry Sleep Solution (for babies), The No-Cry Sleep Solution for Toddlers and Preschoolers, and The No-Cry Nap Solution. Check your library.

    So I would say combine those you want to soon and work on obedience in quiet time as they adjust to the new arrangements!

    houseofchaos
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    Personally, I would have a separate room for baby until he or she is older.  We are in a 5 bedroom house, expecting #10.  No extra rooms here, that’s for sure!  Quiet time – doesn’t really happen here – between 2 to 4 kids in a room doesn’t stay very quiet.  Or the smaller ones end up falling asleep and destroy bedtime plans – our children do not need much sleep at all!!    ;-D   We did try having a baby in our room once, but it was not very nice for me – I am an extremely light sleeper.

    I am sure you will figure out what is best for your particular situation.

    Congratulations!

    Tristan
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    houseofchaos – I have to politely disagree with this “between 2 to 4 kids in a room doesn’t stay very quiet” This is 100% a matter of habit training. It takes mom’s time to train the children to be quiet in quiet time, just like it takes mom’s time to train a child to stay in their bed at bedtime. If it is not a priority to mom then it won’t happen. Quiet time has been a priority in our house and one habit I’m diligent in working on or maintaining.

    It’s okay if that’s not a priority to you, my sister doesn’t see the need for a quiet time at her house. But it is a realistic and possible habit for even large families to learn!

    houseofchaos
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    Sorry, Tristan, you are right, I should have said “between 2 and 4 kids in a room in OUR house doesn’t stay very quiet.”  Daytime noise doesn’t bother me, and I prefer them to go to bed early – that is when I need my quiet time.  Quiet times in the afternoon don’t seem to work well for our system!

    As always, habit training is essential in the areas that are a priority in each home. 

    suzukimom
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    Well, we use a bassinett in our room (no room for a crib) until the child outgrows it (around 4-6mo) and then they move in with their siblings.

    Our Son (age 9) has his own room that is quite small…   And then our girls are in another room – 2 on a bunkbed, with the 2.5yo in a crib.  I’ll be moving her to a toddler bed soon….   I’d moved all the kids out of the crib once they climb somthing – I think all the other ones climbed out of something at a younger age….   Delta and Foxtrot climbed out of the playpen… but Echo was a turkey and climbed over the baby gate for her first climbing feat!   Golf hasn’t climbed out of anything (we got rid of the playpen last year at this time…. we haven’t used a baby gate with her because the others just take it down…. and she hasn’t tried to climb the crib I guess because the others just take her out once she is awake and wants out….

     

    We don’t do quiet-time…  I just haven’t had the discipline to do it….

    Corie
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    We have friends with 10 children in a two bedroom home; one of the most peaceful homes you will come across.  She would tell you it is a matter of training them to have quiet time, whether others are around or not.  I am still trying to figure this one out with my four, but it can apparently be done!  🙂

    MissusLeata
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    I thoroughly believe that the whole “quiet” thing dependa on the family. Sure, almost anyone can learn to be quiet, but it’s a huge challenge for some kids and can take a while.

    I, too, am expecting #4. We have a 4 bedroom house, but one of those roome is hubby’s office and the other is presently storage. My 5 and 3 year old boys share a room and the 1 year old boy is in a crib in our room. When the baby comes, she’ll be in our room and at some point, I’ll start moving the 1 year old to the boys room. But I’m not sure I want the crib in there since I want I’ll want it for the baby and I dont’ think he’s ready yet for a toddler bed, so I don’t know when I’ll move him.

    For quiet time, I put the baby in his crib in my room, the 3 year old on the couch and the 5 year old gets to play in his room. That keeps everyone split up and usually works for us and I can get a nap, too, when I need one. When the baby comes, she can sleep in the basinet for naps or with me if I’m taking one, so it won’t be a problem for a while anyway. 🙂

    ServingwithJoy
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    We love our quiet time around here, too. Here is how ours works:

    Babies always have a crib in our room. Mom and Dad’s room is pretty much off limits to the other kiddos, and this makes it easy for me to nurse and put the baby to sleep during the day or at night without disturbing the rest of the household.

    Our boys make the sacrifice for their older (11yo) sister having a room of her own…we have FOUR boys in one bedroom! Thankfully, we also have a small study between the bedrooms.

    So, I usually have my oldest child in the same bedroom with the youngest (in our house a 10 yo with a 4 yo) for quiet time, as the oldest child is pretty well trained in the whole reading and quiet time concept and helps to dissuade the little guy from playing and getting up, etc…

    My slightly hyper 6 year old gets the study all to himself. And my daughter shares her room for quiet time with her 8 yo brother.

    If you match a younger child with an older, better disciplined child, I find that the positive peer pressure does wonders :).

    I know your kiddos are younger, but remember that if they are past the actual napping at QT stage, then you can partition a larger room or set aside another special ‘space’ instead of a whole room. We have used hallways, porches, trampolines (whether permitting), couches, and beanbags as the QT ‘space’.

    I think it is good for them to learn to independently play or read and block out distractions. The idea that they need a whole room to themselves is rather silly :).

    The rule in our house is that the child must read for a while and play quietly for a while if they are too old to nap. Hope that helps!

    bethanna
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    Expecting #4 here too. Almost any day now! We also live in a 4 bedroom house, but made one bedroom into laundry/storage. Dd7 has had her own room while the boys, 5 and 2, share. The new baby girl will have a bassinet in my & dh’s room for the first few monthes, but also a crib in big sister’s room. We start quiet time with our literature read-aloud in the boys room. Actually, first I read 2 picture books and then start the chapter book. Ds2 falls asleep during the chapter book reading. When we are finished reading, dd7 goes to her room to play quietly and ds5 stays in the room with napping brother to play quietly. If I need to nap too, we all stay in the boys’ room and the 2 older look at books while I doze. I am not sure how, or if, this part of our day will change once baby arrives…

    Missy OH
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    In our house the baby stays with mom and dad the first 4 to 6 months and then moves to their own room.  We choose to put the baby in their own room even though we are short on space so the older dc can sleep more peaceful.  We don’t do quiet time so I can’t help with that part.  We are quiet when the little ones nap, though, but we are busy doing things.  Now, when I only had little dc, they always napped in the living room and the baby in the crib.

    chocodog
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    Wow such diversity.  It is neat to see how everyone works this out.  I tried the bassinet in my room with my children. I too am a light sleeper and that didn’t last to long either.  We have 3 bedrooms. 4 children.  When the boys were younger they shared a room and my oldest dd had her own room. Baby 4 came and I couldn’t sleep with her in my room. I put her in the livingroom and put a monitor on low in my room.  I put the other monitor away from her crib.  This way I could only hear her when she was crying.  Not every breathing moment.  Yes, I would listen to her breathe.  It would wake me up if she would sigh or move.  My other son would only sleep in a swing. I would have to listen to it all the time.  I eventually moved the swing out of my room. In the middle of the night, one night. 🙂  He eventually moved to the bassinet but was my night time nightmare for about 9 months. He hated to sleep. I would have to hold him down for a nap during the afternoon.  He would cry(scream) for 5-10 min and be out cold.  I am sure if I wouldn’t have done this we would have never seen him sleep. (or me either for that fact!)   It took some training.  I however was able to finally get some sleep. Then, I was pregnant with the next one… LOL .  We did nap time. When they were older we put the baby down and went on with our business. The were old enough by then that they no longer needed a nap.  Now that they are older we use the time for a educational DVD while everyone is quiet.  Sometimes I still need a nap. 😉 They know to be quiet and play games or do something constructive if there isn’t a DVD.

    mrsmccardell
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    I love the variety you have shared wtih me.  It helps to hear what you do as it gets me “out of my own head” if that makes any sense!  My initial concern with moving baby from our room after 3-4 months into shared space with an older sibling is the concern of them putting something in the crib while baby is sleeping…I guess overall safety.  Needless to say, my parenting has been a lot of trial and error so it seems that we’ll continue along with prayer and trial and error.  Thanks for your help.    

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