I have 6 kids and am contemplating HS them in the fall. My oldest is 15 and will be a sophomore. I was considering starting our history cycle with ancients, but in addition, study US history alongside. My questions though is my oldest only has 3 years to get the most out of hs. She has to have the US history still to graduate, so that is not a problem as we will continue that for the next three years. However, what other history modules would be the best use of her remaining time? I know she is studying world history in public school right now (though I can’t guarentee she is learning all that much).
If you use the Story of the World series, history is covered in four years instead of SCM’s six years. We use Story of the World as a spine, and add appropriate supplemental books from the library. If you work through the books quickly or use some of your summer months, I bet you can get through it in three years.
We started homeschooling this year. We use the audio of SOTW in the car when we go places – each section is usually about 10 minutes, which is perfect for my young children so they don’t lose their attention. We are almost done with the Early Modern Times book (Book 3), and we didn’t rush through it at all. Of course, I have a ton of supplemental books I’d like to get to, but it’s not necessary to do them all. History was my oldest’s favorite subject this year (he’s 10), and I think he developed a nice understanding of the history of those times and of several historical figures during that period. He was just telling me last night about some “misinformation” in lots of books about George Washington, who is one person he has really come to like.
I personally would skip Ancient Egypt for your 15 yo. I would think Greeks and Romans, the Middle Ages, Renaissance, & Reformation. You might want to think about some modern history (I’m thinking WWs here), though that might be included in your American History studies.
I’m not sure, but I think SOTW is aimed at elementary ages – so would be good for the younger, but not so much for the 15yo imho.
In your position, I’d use the SCM History/Geography/Bible modules… With your oldest only having 3 years left, I’d start with #4, so you get the 2 modern history (US History) in.
Is your hope to use the SCM modules? Some people are finding it possible to work through 1 1/2 to 2 modules per year, especially with older children. I’ve looked at the possibility of using them as a 3 year cycle myself, and I think it could work if you are really committed. The lessons are designed to be short, so doubling up shouldn’t be too difficult for older children. You just may not get to all the extra reading.
Biblioplan looks good as well, presenting history from a Biblical perspective in a 4 year cycle. They do ancients in one year.
My preference for us is to start Biblical History from the beginning, but if you your daughter only has three years of school left and you really want to start with American History, I would look as starting with either Mod 4 then working through to Mod 6, then go back to ancients, OR, do Mod 5 & 6 in her first 2 years, then go back to ancients with your younger kids and allow her to either join you or work independantly on a history course of choice. Or, if she’s not big on history and doesn’t require more history for her transcript, she might use the time to work on a course she does need, or volunteer work, or a job, or whatever happens to work for her and you.
Hi, anba! Greetings from another mom of many! :0) I agree with suzukimom about starting with Module 4, since your oldest only has 3 years left. I love SCM Modules and Guides. Personally, I would also read thru M.B. Synge’s Story of the World books as a family read aloud, or assign them to your 15 year old as additional reading. They are well written living books and suitable for older students, but are great read alouds for the youngers. This would give her a good overview of history up to Module 4.
Here they are at Yesterday’s Classics (just scroll down to view all of them)
Thank you all for the suggestions. I am going to read back through them and make note 🙂
I would like to clarify a bit…
I plan on studying American history constantly with all my children (maybe 2 days a week), so I know my oldest will have enough American history in the three years combined for her required American history credit.
She is studying modern world history at the moment in public school, so I know that she at least has a bit of modern history. I am very interest in starting with ancients so we can go through the bible. I know in ps she has never gotten “THAT” history, but I am not sure if that is the best place to start with only having three years left.
Anyway, I am planning on using a CM education, but keeping them together in the history cycle. I am finding the SCM can help me a lot with that planning, but I am open to other suggestions that are CM-like. I don’t mind planning, but am still getting my feet wet with everything that is out there.
With all that said… how many historical time periods do you think I could realistically get through in 3 years? As a side note…I just started looking at the Lord of the Ring Study as I think my two oldest would love something like this… so I thought about incorporating it in to their studies, but I think it is more middle ages (I may be wrong though).
I guess I am just looking for suggestions from those of you that have btdt. My kids will be 15 (sophomore), 13 (8th), 11 (6th), 9 (3rd), 5 (k), and 2.
Thank you all for being so very helpful. You don’t know how much I appreciate it.
Here is a link to the Beautiful Feet guide. http://bfbooks.com/Ancient-Study-Guide-Download-Version This is the one that I have seen Sonya recommend for “speeding up” Ancients in high school. I have never used it, but it sounds interesting. It covers multiple civilizations, the Bible, and adds in lots of literature from the looks of it. There are also other quides available.
What to do after that would depend on her goals, your state requirements, and whether or not she is college bound.
If your daughter is currently studying modern American history at the highschool level and you plan on teaching American history along side WOrld history, I would say, if you want to start at Ancients, start at ancients. I think I’ve said before (but it might have been a different post) decide what it is you want her to know before she leaves school and teach that. If you want her to know Bible history, then that should be your focus. You know she hasn’t studied that in PS. There are different ways to do it, and how much you get through will depend on many factors. I think I mentioned Bibliolplan which covers ancients in one year rather than SCM’s Mod which cover the same periods in 3.
I am planning to use a 5 year cycle with the SCM modules myself, and it might be worth looking into something like it yourself based on the ages of your children (I will also have a 3rd and 6th grader next year). I plan to cover ancients (mod 1-3) in 2 years, (2 terms each), and the rest iin one year. Doing this your daughter could continue right up to the end of Mod 4 before graduation, Your second oldest child would get one full rotation, Your 3rd oldest would have AMerican in 9th & 10th grade, your 3rd grader would get 2 full rotations, and both your youngest two would also end up with 2 full rotations, and then some.
If it were me, I would limit my American History to good living books during the years of studying Bible & World history so as to not overwhelm my children (or myself). Maybe some good biographies, and historical fiction. I would probably check out the reading list from Mod 5 & 6 for books that your oldest could read independantly that she would otherwise miss.
My biggest concern would be taking on too much in the beginning. Having taken 2 boys from PS this past fall, I can personally attest to the fact that it can be a difficult adjustment, and more so with so many children with differing reactions and personalities and learning styles. There will be many days when you feel like you are not accomplishing anything. A period of de-schooling is definately required. The recommendation is a month for each year your child was in PS. I know that may seem really difficult, especially when you are dealing with teens coming to the end of their schooling, but it is definately something you need to consider. Personally this year I choose to focus on skill subjects and scheduled a very light year in science and social studies, etc. This has proven to be extremely important. I know that you want to do it all with all your children, but it may go smoother with some than others. I would try to figure out your top three goals for each child and focus on those. Reading? Math? Spelling? Writing an essay? Research skills? Accomplishing household chores? Money management? Attentiveness? Obedience? Respect? Organization? Remember that education doesn’t mean just acedemics. You are trying to educate a whole child — heart, mind soul and body. It will take time to get everyone up to speed, and maybe you are going to have to start in different places for each child. Enlist the help of your older children with the younger whereve possible. Combine as much as you can, and do’t try to do it all at once. Keep your eye on the goal.
You aren’t locked in stone. If you try something and it doesn’t work for you, not biggie. Just figure-out what will.
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