New Schedule Format for Rising 3rd Graders – I'd love input

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  • Shannon
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    I’d love input on a new schedule format I’ve devised for my 8yo sons.  It is technically for next year but we’re starting it now.  As background, I’m a horrible schedule follower so I’m trying to find something that keeps me somewhat on track while also allowing flexibility so I don’t get panicked from being behind.

    I’ve decided to divide the year into 6 terms of two months each.  My goal is to do 30 days of school each term. 

    I’ve created three loops to work through.

    Loop One is the work we try to do daily.  In all honest it is rare we do all of this each day.  I’m hoping that we’ll continue to get more disciplined about this.

    • Spirituality
    • Reading lesson for Armand
    • Reading lesson for Elio
    • Math lesson for Armand
    • Math lesson for Elio
    • Piano for Armand
    • Family Work – tasks to keep the home tidy and clean
    • Silent reading for everyone
    • Copywork

    Loop Two is four items and we try to get to at least one of them each day, ideally we’d do more than one. 

    • Term Focus (to be narrated and documented in books they create) (explained below)
    • Minor Focus (from the list below)
    • Writing – correspondence or documentation of something we’ve learned
    • Bing -( the browser) has a lot of interesting nature and geographic pictures that, if we think it looks interesting we’ll spend time learning more about

    The Term Focus subject list is below.  This is a time to do daily focus on each of the subjects, to get into bigger projects we’ve not found time to get into before.  For example, for Science this month we’re creating a water Rube Goldberg and learning about fluid dynamics in the process.  We’ve been meaning to do this for the past year.  We’re also finishing up an astronomy project we started months ago but let slip though the cracks.  We’ll definitely do science at other times in the year but this is a time we can really dig deep into each subject.

    • Sept-Oct = History
    • Nov-Dec = Science
    • Jan-Feb = Geography
    • Mar-April = Nature
    • May-June = Science
    • July-Aug = Art

    The Minor Focus is a list of 20 items we like to learn about.  I’ll choose 2 to 4 each term to have as a focus.  Here is the list (to be added to as desired):

    • Character/Habit
    • Stretching/Movement
    • Money
    • Time
    • Artist Study
    • Musician Study
    • Memorization
    • Bird Study
    • Tree/Plant Study
    • Living Math through History
    • Spanish
    • Spelling
    • Cooking
    • Logic/Critical Thinking
    • Grammar
    • Poetry
    • Handicrafts
    • Singing/Dance
    • Chess
    • Yard Work

    I know it isn’t ideal to study some of these sporatically (esp Spanish) but whenever I put everthing I think we should and want to be doing on a schedule I get totally overwhelmed and end up not getting much of anything done.  Right now one son is barely ‘grade level’ and the other is substantially behind so my primary focus is still reading and math.  I’ve added some writing this year bc we’ve done so little of it and it is clearly time to make that a focus. 

    In the ideal world of this schedule we’ll do all the daily activities (Loop One) plus one or two of the Loop Two items and when it is time to do a ‘minor focus’ we’ll do whatever I’ve chosen for that term’s minor focus and the next time we do a ‘minor’ we’ll do the next of the chosen list (thus making it Loop Three).

    So far it is working well except we don’t get to Loop Two/Three as often as I’d like.  But then again we don’t finish Loop One on a daily basis as often as I’d like either!  Embarassed

    Shannon
    Participant

    Bump.  Anyone with input?

    Does a ‘normal’ homeschool get to all their basic subjects every day?  I only have two kids homeschooling (and two in public school)…why is it such a challenge to get to reading and math for both boys every day?  Shouldn’t that be super easy?  And we never do reading, math AND writing in a day.  What’s wrong with me?

    Scoathy
    Participant

    Here is what my schedule looks like for my 8 year old (below after comments)

    Math: I set a timer for 30 minutes max….sometimes we do 1/2 a lesson, sometimes we do 3 lessons

    Reading: I have no formal reading program anymore. I set the timer for 20 minutes, he reads independantly, then narrarates when he is done

    Writing/Grammar/Spelling – all done as Independant work, but I am available for questions when needed

    Memory work is done during snack time

    Misc stuff like yardwork, handicraft skills, cooking, or games like chess are all done randomly as part of life. I don’t feel a need to schedule these into our day

    Daily:
    History (Ancient Egypt/Bible/Geography)
    English (Reading/Writing/Spelling/Grammer)
    Mathematics
    P.E. (Martial Arts, Soccer, Free Play)
    Foreign Language (French)
    Music (Guitar)

    Monday Only:
    Local History (town, county, state)

    M/W/F:
    Science

    T/T:
    Health
    Personal Developement (Character Studay)

    Friday Only:
    Art

     I am only homeschooling 1 child, so I do think it makes it easier on my time. However, I am still working toward more and more independent work/study. I plan to add Character Study to his Independent work list for next school year.

    I have to be honest, the loop schedule would not work for my house, but if it works for you, then that is great 🙂

    elsnow6
    Participant

    Unfortunately I don’t have any great input on the schedule bc I’m not great at getting it all done either, & while I actually love structure, I’m dealing with a lot of things at this time in my life that keep me from following one as well as I’d like. With that said, I’m wondering why you need to do separate lessons for your boys…are they at very different levels with math & reading? If not, I’d combine them. My 8yo reads well so I don’t do reading lessons just have her read independently & aloud (not aloud every day) sometimes with me reading a section then having her read it too for fluency practice. However, it dawned on me recently that I’m a good reader in terms of reading with expression & the things that make it interesting to the listener yet only recall “learning” this indirectly and likely from my mom who read to me the same way. In realizing this, I saw that I stress myself out trying to directly teach things (even some things like character & chores) even that is much less necessary than we often think (the realization was largely brought about from a book I’ve been reading “Hold Onto Your Kids”). Ok, so if those thoughts aren’t applicable to your situation…have you gotten on track with just the basics? If not, put this plan on hold & just get all of you used to completing the basics of education at this age & maybe ensuring they have plenty of time to explore outside & are read to aloud from good books that cover other subjects. Just really simplify things like poetry, music & art study to reading living books… you may choose to let them draw or tell about these or just read to them & show pictures or have music on in background. Doing this at bedtime or mealtime usually has worked for us. I don’t see anything wrong with your plan, but I’m not the best to evaluate that since I’ve yet to be able to carry out a full CM approach. What I’ve found is I have this thing I call “Pinterest Syndrome” lol…I think there’s a “perfect” plan, idea, recipe, etc that will make life fall into place. I’ve wasted soooo many hours looking for that perfection instead of just acting on a plan, accepting that not everything will work & that I’m not screwing up my kids (or insert any area of life) by not successfully implementing that “perfect” plan & actually do damage by pursuing perfection. I know this may not all apply to you but were just my thoughts as I read your post. HTH 🙂

    Tristan
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    I think you have to find what works for you, which I know is a totally unhelpful answer.  I have eight children and we deal with a lot of medical needs with the 2 year old that have me at the hospital and in doctors offices often.  My children have had to learn to work independently in some areas and to use an assignment sheet to keep school moving.  It has actually been a very positive thing. 

    Daily they will get the following done (whether I am home or not):

    • Family Devotional with hymn study
    • Math
    • Reading
    • Personal Scripture study
    • Writing
    • History OR Science, oldest does both on the same day.

    Then dependiing on the day they’ll do something from this list:

    • Art
    • Music
    • Copywork
    • Handicrafts

    Each year is a bit different as ages change and the materials we’re using change.  They spend afternoons playing outside, doing nature study, or working on projects of their own design.

    There have been seasons where we did 4 R’s only.  Reading, Religion, wRiting, aRithmetic.  Other times we do those basics and focus on one other major subject for a month or a semester (like rotating through a month of history, then a month of science, then history, etc. or a semester of history and then a semester of science).

     

    If you are struggling to get through absolute basics each day then take a look at what material you are using Is it something that takes too long each day?  remember short lessons with full attention!  Is is the kids are not staying on task/working diligently?  Are you expecting to do too much in a day or year?  Are your plans realistic?

    Also take a very hard look at how you spend your time.  If you are not doing absolute basics but have time for the computer, internet, forums, etc, and the kids have time for watching dvds/shows or playing video games, or you’re reading a book just for you while the kids are entertaining themselves then make changes!  Eliminate these or other distractions and time wasters from your day.  (This may not be you at all but I didn’t want to leave it out.  I have to remember to save blogging for after school work, preferably when my children are asleep.  Other friends I know have struggled with other things I mentioned.)

    erin.kate
    Participant

    My 8yo’s schedule looks like this (she’ll be starting AO Year 2 on 7/7):

     

    Family ~ About 90 min each morning … we call this our morning liturgy. This is our cornerstone and if this is all we accomplish in a given day, I feel like we did well, though we typically do get through the rest of our lessons after much habit training, of ME especially. 🙂

     

    Bible & Memory (SCM Pack 4)

    M/Th: Old Testament (TQ Beginnings)

    Tu: Stories from the Life of Christ

    W/F: The Virtuous Woman & Ruby Doll (Doorposts)

     

    Singing:

    M/W/F: hymn

    Tu/Th: folk song

     

    Lovelies:

    M: picture or composer study (we do 6 weeks of each)

    Tu: Shakespeare or Plutarch teatime & Nature Study

    W: Holling geography

    Th: Handicrafts & Habits

    F: Book of Centuries

     

    Read aloud:

    M/W/F: Good books literature

    Tu: Wonder Book and Tanglewood Tales

    Th: Fables & Tales

     

    Her individual daily work:

    Miquon & Fred maths

    Italics cursive

    Getting Started with Latin

    Poetry (one poem per day from her term poet)

    (1) AO reading per day

    60 min quiet time daily, at least 30 of which must be free reading

     

    Her lessons are short, intentional, and there is a consequence for dwadling and she knows the reward of free afternoons is rich and happy. My other kids are 10, 6, and 5.

    artcmomto3
    Participant

    Just wanted to say that I think your children will benefit more if you spread your lessons out over the whole year than to cram them into a couple of months.  Some subjects only need a day or two each week.  Assign specific days for your subjects as others have done above.  If you have a subject everyday for only two months, by the time they return to it the following year they will have forgotten everything they learned.

    Tristan
    Participant

    artcmomto3 – I agree that it would be unworkable to focus on skill based subjects like learning to read, learning to write, and learning math only part of a school year. These need regular, consistent practice to master. However after 10 years of homeschooling I’ve seen in my own family that content based subjects can be learned this way.  Content based subjects can often be learned out of order without difficulty.  For example you don’t “have” to study cats before space, or Thomas Edison after George Washinton.

    Think about it this way, the child spends a few months forming personal relationships to people/places/things in science or history. Perhaps they meet Queen Elizabeth of England and William Shakespeare in their August readings. Those relationships don’t just disappear because they do not have continual studies on Queen Elizabeth every month or every year.  The relationship is formed and can be built on later.

    In the CM study rotation a child allows YEARS between their study of a time period.  Do they suddenly lose all the relationships they formed and have to begin at the very beginning when they come back to that time period four or six years later?  Of course not. 

    The same could be said of artist studies, composer studies, or many of the content based studies.  After a 5 minute picture study or 6 weeks of studying once a week the same artist’s work will you still recognize those 6 pictures if you see them on a wall at a museum a few months or years later?  More than likely. 

     

    Shannon
    Participant

    Thank you for all the input.  I’ve read them all and now will need to let them settle over me to figure out what seems the right way to go.  We’re heading out of town in the morning so I’m not sure when I’ll get to reply but I will within a few days. 

    Thank you so much!

    Shannon

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