I have two seven year olds, four months apart in age. The younger one, Elio, turned 7 last week. We’ve done very little math so far and part of the reason is because of some of the replies I get from Elio which makes me think he simply isn’t at a level of maturity to ‘get math’. I wanted to try to give some examples and see if I can get some feedback.
We were counting the days until company comes. It was Wednesday so we had two days until Friday, plus a week to the next Friday, when the company would arrive. My older 7yo offered that a week is 7 days and I ‘yes, said so it will be 2 days plus 7 days’. The both blurted out answers at the same time. The older one was correct but the younger one said 7. This comes up often when I ask for a simple addition response. He doesn’t see that when you add a number to a number, the reply is going to have to be larger than either of the numbers. He often will say one of the addends or even a number lower.
He still doesn’t know he has five fingers on one had, or ten all together. He still counts them every time. We’ve been doing a little of RightStart Level A which strongly discourages counting out. We have practiced a lot with me holding up a certain number of fingers, or working with cards showing dots or tally marks, or working on the abacus, and the children have to recognize the number quickly without counting by recognizing FIVE plus however many, or what a number lower than five looks like. My older 7yo does this just fine but Elio still struggles with it.
Might it just be he isn’t ready for this subject? I’m fine to postpone him learning it for months or another year if that seems to be the issue. Is it that RightStart isn’t a good fit for him? I really like they do mental math and recognize counts without counting each item, but maybe that doesn’t work well for him and he’ll come around to seeing 7 as 5 and 2 on his own later on.
He is very science/engineer minded, always trying to figure out how things work, taking apart anything he can get his hands on…so I assumed math would come easy for him. He finds it very frustrating that his brother can get the right answer so easily when he can’t.
Another interesting thing from his past. He didn’t learn his colors until very late – he was 4 1/2 years old. I had never had a child (he is my 4th) who didn’t just pick up colors, and with him I even did some ‘teaching’ but it didn’t work until suddenly one day, it did. Even he knew something had changed and he was delighted to finally (finally!) get it! Maybe that is just the way he is?
I don’t know. He will be tested in May (Woodcock Johnson III) and maybe that will give me some insight. Reading has come rather easily for him so I didn’t suspect dyslexia.
And I should say he doesn’t count them fingers if the total is under five, only if it is over…but he still counts the first hand to get to his total, and if I ask how many fingers are on one hand (trying to get him to at least start with counting ‘6’ on the second hand, he doesn’t seem to know.
My daughter was the same way. She is almost 10 now. She still has problems telling time or reading a calendar (little concept of time). She is still on simple addition and subtraction. I don’t know when she started knowing ‘5’ just by looking at one hand without counting, but she has continued to struggle in math. I was to an educational consultant recently. She specializes in math and dyslexia. She gave me a special math program to do before we begin her recommended published curriculum. It is supposed to help with number sense. Once we finish that program, she has recommended Math-U-See. I came to a point where I really did not know what direction to go. It just seemed like we were making very little progress. I am planning to use Math-U-See upon her recommendation after we finish the other program. She will consult with people even if they can’t see her in person. She was recommended by Susan Barton. If you want her contact information, let me know.
My daughter could add or subtract basic numbers (even +1) until we did vision therapy with her. He problem wasn’t huge but within about 6 weeks of doing vision therapy – she now has not problem with math. Since, January she has done a whole grade level of mathl Before that, it didn’t matter what we did, she just couldn’t get it. I’m so glad our eye doctor caught it. She also couldn’t remember her left from her right at 8 or “B’s” from “D’s”.
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