interesting article about soaking grains

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  • Great article! Thanks for the link.

    It is a fact that acid causes the protein to break down in bread, causing it to become dense and heavy, as opposed to light and airy.

    Sourdough has been a miserable failure for me, so I’ve done away with sour fermentation for bread. I prefer sprouting and sweet natural yeast.

    Rachel White
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    I’ll post ont he board instead of PM if that’s okay. Ones I’ve had success with may be useful to others. I’ll just create a new post. Also, others who have had success can post , too. I haven’t used kanut and barley, yet; but maybe others have. I’d like to use kamut for my pasta recipes eventually.

    I wish I could share a sourdough success, but I’m awaiting a starter from a friend (the same one who gave me my kombucha mother and water kefir grains).

    They will come in dribbles instead of all at once. I have a lot going on with Pesach coming and preparing to buy/start my seeds for planting.

    HiddenJewel
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    Sourdough bread never turned out for me until I read Vintage Remedies Guide to Bread. Now it turns out light and yummy. A big key for me was making it a wetter dough and  using water on the counter and my hands to handle it instead of flour.

    Super easy to make too. I feed the starter throughout the day, mix my dough in the evening, let it rise all night (apx 12 hours), form loaves and put in pans when I get up, rise until early afternoon (apx 6 hours), and bake.

     

     

    petitemom
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    Light and yummy sounds much better than what I tried, I do not like a dense bread.

    I’ll see if I can find that book at the library…

    Rachel are you talking about soaking or sprouting kamut and barley?

    I do sprout wheat and rye, and use them for pancakes. That’s because I can’t get kamut or barley where I live, and also because my family is very wheat-tolerant. That’s because we’re brown-rice-based in our diet, so we’re not overwhelmed with unhealthy wheat diets.

    I don’t make bread from sprouted wheat. That’s because I don’t have a grain grinder. I’m getting one, eventually. It’s just that I decided to get a meat grinder first, to make healthy meatballs, etc. full of wheat bran. I use sprouted grain for pancakes, and also to add to brown rice.

    Last week I put sprouted wheat in a jar with water, and it started to foam up like yeast. I think it’s the yeast from the fermentation. It smell’s like sourdough, but it’s clear and liquid. So I use that to soak brown rice, instead of cultured whey, and add sprouted grain to it. It’s dairy-free.

    For bread, I follow the idea on originalyeast.blogspot.com  This website is so fantastic, because until read it, I had never heard of anything before. Natural-yeast has become quite popular on thefreshloaf.com.

    I fermented raisins, water, and sugar under anaerobic conditions. It becomes a very lovely, sweet, “wine”. Later on, I can add different fruits (excluding papaya and pineapple, and other fruits that produce papain, the enzme that breaks down protein), like apples peels, grape skins, etc. and also healthy sugars like honey and jaggery. This “wine” is full of good yeast. It is not sour at all. I don’t add any wheat product, as it will become sour. Avoiding anything sour is my motto. 

    It’s the weather. It’s a hot and humid country that brings out the most terribly sour part of the sourdough. In cool-weather, sourdough is appropriate. Here, it would require too much manipulation between the fridge and the counter.

    From the sweet “wine”, I make a starter with flour, which is the preferment. It will ferment for several hours, then I will add flour, sweetener, and salt, and knead it into a loaf of bread. I let it rise well, then shape it, then rise again, then I bake it.The key to is use a REALLY hot oven (above 400F) and moist, sticky, dough.

    Bread baked with this “original yeast” is very fluffy and rises slowly (slow -rising with natural yeast is the “traditional” way to make artisan, healthful, breads, ). I get breads tasting like ciabatta and baguettes, and even bagels.

    Now that using this “natural” yeast like the pioneers did (they used ale) is so easy, I make bread with it and not with commerical yeast. So much easier that sour-soaking.

    Rachel White
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    Yes, it is a goal of mine to move away from commercial yeast. Your “wine” reminds me of my water kefir and hard cider – it’s the same process and so good. Wish I could get organic hard cider at a reasonable price and locally; will continue to investigate up here in our mtns. where the apples are grown. Did you know that John Adams had a glass of hard cider every morning? He claimed that was the reason for his 90 yrs. of longevity!

    It also reminds me of my book “Wild Fermentation”. I like to experiment with leftover fermetns and add them to others; though it’s not something I’ve focused on, but it makes sense. In fact, I’m going to use my water kefir storage water in my next bread recipe and see what happens; my dh and I were talking about that the other day.

    When I get kamut and barley, I will either soak or sprout them. From what I’ve read, Pearl Barley doesn’t have to be soaked/sprouted do to it’s being hulless; it’s comparable to white rice v/s br. rice. So I”ll be getting hulled barley and sprout or soak it.

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