Hi, I am new to the forum and would like some advice on implementing CM with my children. There are a couple of questions covering various subjects, so I will just start off and see how we go. I have been homeschooling for 4 years and was introduced to CM about 2 years ago. I have implemented a couple of CM ideas into my homeschool and I use both the SCM online scheduler and the planning book, which I love. I have two children, DS(11) and DD(6). My DS has learning diabilities, Dyslexia with slow processing disorder and short term memory problems. He struggles with the three R’s (Maths, Reading and Writing). I guess my biggest problem at the moment, is that DS still takes all my attention and time with all of his work. Now, I have another body that also needs my attention. I feel our schooling has become too much a school at home, and I seem to be struggling to keep the lessons short. (Not with my DD, but with my DS). I do not feel that it is an enjoyment for any of us. Then I am also struggling to fit everything in, all we seem able to do is the three R’s, then it is almost time to finish up. I do fit history into most days. I guess what I am trying to say, is that I would like to implement MORE CM style into our day, and am not sure how to do it. My DS still requires most of his work read to him. I do combine all their subjects, except Reading, Writing and Maths. I guess I better get more specific with the issues, as I am rambling…
DS is busy on RightStart Maths Level B, he will take 2 – 3 days to finish one lesson and I have to work with him throughout that time. I use Getty-Dubay Italics Book D – cursive, which I try to get him to do independentley, but he gets easily distracted. Then for his reading, I would guess he is at a 2 – 3 grade? For that I am using AAS – level 2. Although this is a spelling program, it works very well as a reading one too. I just add on readers. I am not sure how much I should be expecting him to read by himself, but I do know that it does tire him to read too long. For history we use the Story of the World vol 2. with the activity guide, and for science we use RSO earth and space. The only narrations they do are for Story of the World, at the moment.
What I would like to see in our homeschool, is more of the CM style, more narrations, more of the arts, shorter lessons and more specifically the methods she used for the various subjects. It would be really nice if SCM would bring out one of their wonderful guides on “Using CM with Special Needs”!! I would really appreciate any advice you can offer me, thanking you in advance.
Hi, Lisa, and welcome to the forum. It sounds like you’re doing the right thing with his math, breaking it into smaller chunks and taking several days. That’s a great way to make the lessons shorter, plus get in more review as he goes along. May I ask a couple of clarification questions?
I am not sure how much I should be expecting him to read by himself, but I do know that it does tire him to read too long.
How long would you say is “too long” for him right now? One thought that occurred to me is that Charlotte didn’t start transitioning the children to reading their school books for themselves until they were at about a 4th grade level. So my first thought would be not to expect him to read his school books himself yet; but of course, you want to keep nudging that direction by having him practice reading for you. How long would you say his reading lesson goes?
I use Getty-Dubay Italics Book D – cursive, which I try to get him to do independentley, but he gets easily distracted.
Same question, I guess. About how long is an average lesson that you want him to do independently?
Then I am also struggling to fit everything in
Are you trying to do every subject every day? Many of the arts methods are designed to be done only once a week, like picture study or music study or poetry or nature study. One thing that has helped my daughter with autism this year is that I’m trying to keep a variety in her week. That means we don’t do every subject every day; in fact, many subjects we don’t do every day. For instance, this term we’re doing math only two days a week and playing a game the third day. We’re alternating days for reading: one day a Delightful Reading lesson, the next day she reads aloud to me from More Busy Times, repeat the next two days. Obviously it will take us longer to get through the material, but she is retaining it and enjoying it — and that’s the goal.
Now, since each family (and each child) is different, what works for me may not work well for you. But if you can give us the answers to the questions above, that may help us get started with ideas for you to ponder and try.
I would say that we spend about 20-30 min doing All About Spelling, (this incompasses review of sounds, spelling rules, new teaching of sound or rule, dictation of words and phrases, which I normally do over 2 days. Then I try to get him to read aloud every day from a beginner reader. He is reading Little Bear series from “I Can Read-Level 1”. He can read Level 2 books quite easily too. This I do not do long and if he gets tired we stop. He can read about 8 pages, sometimes more. His reading over the last year has improved dramatically, a year ago, he was barely reading at a 1st grade level. His letter reversals are also getting better.
– Same question, I guess. About how long is an average lesson that you want him to do independently?
He does one page for each lesson.
– Are you trying to do every subject every day?
My schedule looks like this :
Family –
Spiritual Study x5 days
History X 5 days (This we break up into readings, map work, time line and activities.)
Science X 2 days
Repitition Poem X 3 days
Picture study/Music study/Nature Study/Drawing/Poetry X 1 day (However, I never seem to get to any of these!)
DS (11 yrs)
AAS X 4 – 5 days
Grammar X 2 days
Readers X 5 days
Maths X 5 days
Handwriting X 3 days
Typing X 2 days
DD (6 yrs) (I am not sure yet, if she has learning difficulties, she seems fine so far)
Phonic Pathways x 5 days
Maths X 4 days
Delightful Writing x 3 days
Violin Practice x 5 days
I guess my biggest fear is that I am not doing enough, he just turned 11 and will soon be in his teens, so I feel he is “so far behind”. I worry about if he wants to go to University and if I am ruining his chances in life. At the same time I really want our homeschool to be more relaxed, I would like to do more of the arts with them and not be such a “school marm”. I was really drawn to the Charlotte Mason Method and it spoke to me, so would love to implement more of her methods. I have watched your DVD’s which I found extremly helpful, but when it comes to actually doing it myself, I stall…
Thank you so much again, for your help with this, I am sure you get so many people, asking you the same questions over and over.
Over all, it looks like a good schedule, Lisa. The trick is deciding between being driven by fear that you’re not doing enough and the desire for a more relaxed experience. You can’t have it both ways, because fear will overrule relaxation every time. Two statements you made really stood out to me in this regard: “His reading over the last year has improved dramatically, a year ago, he was barely reading at a 1st grade level” vs. “I guess my biggest fear is that I am not doing enough, he just turned 11 and will soon be in his teens, so I feel he is “so far behind”.” When those fears come knocking, it may help to look at how far he has come in just one year. When the child enjoys learning and is surrounded by the right resources, there’s no telling how far and how fast he may progress.
So if you want to veer more toward relaxing (just a little, not overboard ) I would suggest a couple of tweaks to the schedule you have described.
Make sure your lessons are no longer than 30 minutes each, and that should include any narrating.
Back off AAS to 3 days a week. That way you can alternate one day AAS, one day Grammar, etc. You can also alternate the handwriting and typing every other day. That leaves only math and reading aloud all 5 days. Make sure math is no longer than 30 minutes and keep reading aloud short too, definitely shorter than 30 minutes.
Just as an aside, when your son finishes the Little Bear series he might enjoy the story line in the Pathway Readers. The stories are about the same characters all through the early graded readers, so the children get to know the main people, and the stories teach great character lessons – very wholesome. My daughter (13 yo) started reading two years ago and has just begun the second book for 2nd grade, More Busy Times. (She’s progressing, and I’m very proud of her!) In your situation, I’d recommend starting with Days Go By to build confidence and meet the characters.
Oh, and regarding picture study and music study and such. Ease into those. Here’s an easy way to start. Pick a composer and play his music during lunch one day this week (or play it in the car while running errands or driving to a weekly appointment). Tell your kids which composer they’re listening to. Next week do it again. You can pick different songs, but keep the same composer. Continue that for about six weeks. Once you have that nugget in place, pick a different day of the week to do a 5-minute picture study. Do you see where this is going? Instead of trying to add all those extras at once and getting overwhelmed, try adding just one thing at a time until it feels comfortable and part of the regular routine; then add another one.
It certainly does help, sometimes all one needs is for someone to tell you that you are doing OK! I know I need to put my fears aside and have more confidence in myself. As you said :
– The trick is deciding between being driven by fear that you’re not doing enough and the desire for a more relaxed experience.
Thank you once again for the advice, I think I am going to watch your DVD series again to get some more inspiration…..
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