I now understand the "mourning period" of the past

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  • Sara B.
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    You really do need a long time to get over someone you were close to.  I went to MOPS this morning, which I normally love, and I *HATED* it!  At first I was OK, but halfway through, I just tuned out.  I couldn’t concentrate, I only had one thing on my mind, I couldn’t chat afterwards.  I just had to leave.  Now.  All afternoon I’ve been vegging.  I couldn’t make supper.  I almost lost it on the phone with hubby except he changed the subject.  I just never know “which person” I’ll be – happy, somewhat outgoing, etc – or down-in-the-dumps – or snappy and angry – or what.  It’s so hard to lose someone close to you and just “go back to the way things were.”  People nowadays just expect you to snap back into life.  I truly believe it wasn’t just for “show” in the old days – it was because mourners were too unpredictable.  You just never know what you’re going to say or do, ya know?

    Anyway, just had that on my mind and needed to just get it out.  Thanks for listening as I go through grief and mourning.  Cry

    It is difficult and emotions are raw and painful – it takes time and oftentimes people do not understand especially those who have not experienced loss. I always feel that grief is a very personal thing that no-one but you can understand. When my mother died, it was an awful time, circumstances, all the emotions which go with loss were very difficult – not even my hubby could quite understand what I was going through…a few years later his own mother died, and I think he was shocked at the depth of his grief, even though he was not close to her. So I think it is time to take time to grieve in the personal way that feels right to you…so many try to ignore it, or rush through the stages, but that is never wise…we need to come to terms and honor our loved ones and honor our own emotions and feelings, even if we have to do it alone and in prayer with Our Father. I will pray for you. Linda

    By the way, my mum died in 2006 and my dad in 2009 and I still have days when I am low and feel at a loss with sadness, but then I try and reflect on all the good times and memories and it makes me feel somewhat better…I don’t think it every completely goes away.

    CindyS
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    Most definitely, Sara. It does take time; and there is no one who can prescribe a ‘time limit’ for mourning for another person. Each person’s needs will be as unique as the relationship we had with the one we are mourning. Especially with children, it is difficult to take the time to just process all of the emotions, thoughts, and reflections. If you are not already, I encourage you to journal; there will be sweet balm there as the Lord speaks to you through His word and prayer. My sister and one of my closest friends died within two months of one another and now my dad has about 2 months to live. It can be mind-numbing. It is a good opportunity for the children to learn to serve the one that serves them so faithfully! I also encourage you to take the time you need and be willing to say no to even regular activities for awhile. Cocooning with our family and seeking out the new normal can help facilitate the easing back into life. I will be praying for you.

    Blessings,

    Cindy

    Sara B.
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    Thanks, Linda.  You’re right, it is so very personal.  And people can say they understand, but if they haven’t lost someone very close to them, they really don’t.  They do, but they don’t.  I lost a grandfather in 2004, but while I thought I was “close” to him, I mourned the day of the funeral but never really again.  This is so different.  The ups and downs – I just wasn’t prepared for that.  :-/  I just need somewhere I can write this down and feel like someone understands, ya know?  And I figured someone here would know exactly what I am feeling.  Thank you.

    Sara B.
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    Thank you, Cindy.  A journal is a great idea.  I used to write poetry back in high school/early college but gave it up when my emotions were much more under control.  I think you may be onto something – it may be time to take that back up, at least for awhile.  Thank you for giving me permission to say no to things, too.  My dh pushed me to go to MOPS today, and this morning I was OK with that – until I got there.  Undecided  There’s a Mom’s Night Out Sat. night.  I’m just taking this a day, an hour, at a time.  I don’t know today if I will be able to go that night.  That’s the day after the funeral.  <sigh>

    Sarah, go with how you feel each day, if you miss some events like the one on Saturday night, that is fine….better to do something for you than to have to pretend that all is well, when it isn’t…just be gentle and kind with yourself and little by little you will be able to feel again without the awful crushing sadness, it takes time and does get easier, but don’t try and rush it or push it away, we have to deal with these emotions or they tend to eat away at us which is not healthy. What you are experiencing is completely normal, and only you really know what you can and cannot handle, listen to yourself….while I don’t recommend wallowing, I do feel we have to face our feelings, pray about our loss and feelings and then we can heal slowly but surely. A Grandma if we are lucky is a very special person like our mothers who have nurtured us and helped us become who we are….they have been in our lives a long time and often are one of the first people we lose….my daughters were only 14 when my mum died and they took it very hard and even now they occasionally still feel the loss very badly…they were very close to her and she was the quintessential grandma, Godly, caring, fun, loving and all the things a grandma is supposed to be – it was a huge shock to us all and so I will pray for you – especially on Friday as you honor your Grandma’s life, and then take your time, you and God know your needs, listen to them and take heed of them, don’t feel obligated until you are ready……Linda

    sheraz
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    Sara – I am sorry for your loss.  About six months ago I lost my big brother completely unexpectedly.  I can tell you that it is okay to say no, to sit and stare at the wall, to cry, to be upset, to be happy about their life, to feel any range of emotions.  I have lost several members of my family, including my younger sister 5 years ago at Christmas, but even with all my experiences with grief, I wasn’t prepared for the emotional toll his death was for me.  I still have grieving moments, unexpected ones…where my emotions go all wacky.  It is okay.  Take your time.  Grieve how you need to – don’t do anything you don’t feel up to for a little while.  It will ease, and you will find that you are ready to take back your life.  Hugs to you.  Sheila

    RobinP
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    Praying for you Sara.  My very healthy, very strong daddy died 3 years ago.  We were very close.  I’ll always feel it.  My dearest friend lost her 20yos last month in a car accident.  He was homeschooled his whole life and they were extrememly close.  She told me the other day how confused she was because everyone was telling her about the “steps of grieving” and that she really felt none of that, at least not in that order.  I assured her that grief is not a checklist!!  We need to allow ourselves to grieve…not as those who have no hope knowing our hope is in Christ.  But it hurts.  It should hurt.  Death is the curse, but praise God, it has been defeated.  And one day we’ll see our loved ones again.

    Rachel White
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    Sara, please take your time. Each person goes through this differently and there’s not a once size fits all approach to grieving. G-d designed you, not the grieving experts. I am as close to one of my grandmother’s as I am to my mom and I am dreading the day.

    Since you referenced the past in the way people mourned, may I share something that maybe will help you look differently at what you think you should be doing (forgive the length):

    Summarizing Jewish tradition, for an immediate family member, the 7 days following the burial is completely set aside for mourning; one doesn’t cook or even leave the house; you don’t even leave the house to observe the Sabbath; prayer services are held in the home. You’re not expected to put on make-up or do anything for personal pleasure, except on the Sabbath. The community handles the food-everything, so that you can just mourn and not be distracted by the physical. There are special prayers just for mourning that focus on the goodness of G-d. A Memorial candle burns daily-a 24 hour candle -for seven days-everytime you look at it, you remember the light they brought to you. The mourner is not expected to provide for any visitors-you’re not a host. Talking w/visitors consists of memories, life and legacy of the loved one, nothing else, initiated by you so you aren’t compelled to respond to others, which takes a large amount of energy during this time.

    After the seven days have past, one leaves the house for the first time. Then for the next 23 days, you don’t attend parties or celebrations. For one who has lost a parent, a 12 month period after the burial of mourning is expected, with a special daily prayer being said and other prohibitions. After that time has passed, the deceased is remembered on the anniversary of their death w/the memorial candle and mourning prayer at home and at the synagogue, as well at other cyclical holidays. Other remembrance acts are done as well.

    My point here isn’t for you to emulate (and generally the traditions are different for a grandparent); my point here is to show you that the pressure to push down the grief, to avoid talking about the deceased (either because you’re in public, at church or it makes others uncomfortable) or to at least speak in shallow comments concerning death and expecting the mourner to go about their regular lives is a modern occurrence; our modern society doesn’t like to deal with the reality of death. However, G-d has created cyclical seasons of birth, life, and death; and we, too are a part of that. It’s okay to say no, even to your husband; you need to be able to start crying and/or praying at any time, during this time, and not have to put on a facade of coping or deal with people disrupting you and your family at this time.

    Enjoy the memories of your grandmother, encourage your children to talk about her; share the stories she shared of herself with you and of your childhood, look at pictures. Pass down her legacy-it is a blessing. Her spirit becomes alive there with you when that happens and it is a comfort.

     

    chocodog
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    I agree with Rachel and the above. I think there is a period that needs to be set aside. You will have bad days even years later. My dad pasted away 22 years ago. We buried him on Thanksgiving. That holiday was a joyous one in our family. Now that I don’t have much of a family left it can be a sad time. I just try to remain calm through the holidays and not to over do it or stress to much. It makes missing them worse.

      I also had a bad day last week. I had a migraine. I was laying in bed. All of a sudden I started thinking of my Dad. I burst out in tears. Not just a little bit but full blown whailing. I haven’t done that in a long time. I just missed him. Sometimes, it is a smell, sometimes a friend, an event, thinking about fun activities we did together. Sometimes I can think about things and be ok. Other times it requires a cry. 🙂

      I know what you mean by just having to leave. That is normal in the grieving process. I couldn’t go snowskiing for a couple of years after my Dad passed away. The thought just brought on more turmoil. I felt like no one understood. Everyone just expected me to be at the ski area. It wasn’t until my daughter was 3 or four and I tried to teach her how to ski that I could set foot out there without crying myself to death.  Then all I could do was focus on her and nothing else. If I focused on anything else I would start to bawl. I found that I could not even talk to friends. They would bring up fond memories and there I was bawling. I would have to excuse myself and focus on my daughter again. I must say that snowskiing has never been the same for me. You may find that you have to change your life a bit to make yourself “cope” . It may be temperary or it may not. There are things that I could go back to and there are things I quit. Sometimes It is just the way we handle grief.

                Blessings and I hope you make it through this greiving period. Only you will know what you can handle, what you can not. What you must give up and what is ok to try again! 🙂

    Sara B.
    Participant

    You ladies are the best!  Thank you for your understanding and wisdom and sharing such hard things with me.  Today was better, though by evening I was wiped out to the point I couldn’t make supper.  Poor kids have had cereal 2 or 3 nights in a row now.  Surprised  Won’t have to worry about dinner for the next couple days – will be up with relatives tomorrow night and Friday is the funeral.  But I am thinking for a while at least, I need to make supper in the am while I’m in relatively good spirits so we can actually eat real food for supper.  Poor hubby, too…  Undecided  He’s having a hard time grasping why I can’t do school or clean the house or get food on the table.  But I think in a way he *does* understand, too.  I think….  Well, I don’t know – he’s trying to understand, at least, so that’s good enough.  🙂  Again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing with me and lifting me up.  I know eventually I’ll get back to “normal” (except for calling Grandma every day <sigh>), it’s just a matter of when and taking baby steps to get there.  (((hugs))) to you all!

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