Homeschool vs public school

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  • June 16, 2011 at 11:47 am
    dmccall3
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    Hi everyone!

    One of the reasons I am choosing to homeschool is because of the way piblic schools approach education. I read an article once about how public schools began and evolved. In it was information about the original goal of public education and why it was set up the way it was – something about mass producing people for the work force. Anyway, do any of you know where I could find this type of site/article/etc? I’m not looking to find that exact article but just the general information in it. I appreciate your help!

    June 16, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    Bookworm
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    I don’t know of a small article on this topic, but there is an excellent whole book on it!  The author is a former public school teacher named John Taylor Gatto.  Here is the site:

    http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm

     

     

    June 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Heather
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    It is a fascinating topic to me…and one that so few know or will speak about.  I can highly recommend the DVD “Children of Caesar” by Voddie Baucham from vision forum.  Also, A Weed in the Church by Scott Brown is a good read.  It talks about the origin of Public School, then its evolution to “Sunday School” and modern day “Youth Group”.

    June 16, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    dmccall3
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    Thank you both! Has anyone seen Waiting for Superman? I’m curious about that as well.

    June 16, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    joannarammell
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    Agreed Vision Forum is full of amazing sources like this.  That is were I learned a lot about these topics and many others.  It is also why my husband and I started keeping our children with us in church.  Also check out Dewey and the other “fathers” of education…their underlying philosophies are downright scary.  Oh, and I know where I got alot of info on it…F.A.C.E.  Foundation for American Christian Education.  There are many many reason to stay away from the public government schools…many.  Also, I found Voddie Baucham’s blog or something online…ah here it is…Western Conservatory…the Botkin family…under articles I just typed in school…and here you go…http://www.westernconservatory.com/search/node/school .  Maybe that is what you are looking for?!

    joanna

    June 16, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    joannarammell
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    Waiting for Superman?  I did not watch it because I thought it was FOR public ed.  was i wrong?

    jo

    June 16, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    dmccall3
    Participant

    Oh yeah. It apparently brings to light the horrible state American schools are in. I think the title is saying that the schools are “waiting for Superman” and need him.

    Thank you for all the information and links you provided!

    Can I ask why you now keep your kids with you in church though instead of having to wait to read info about it? Haha. I’m intrigued and curious and kind of excited because for no *real* reason I want my chikdren with me in church. Is it Sunday School itself? Or…?

    June 16, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    Bookworm
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    We’ve seen Waiting for Superman.  It profiles several families who try to improve the education their children are getting–many by trying to get into charter schools.  I think it’s worth viewing for ANY parent concerned about the quality of our public education system.  I do not think the producers are necessarily pro-homeschooling but they are very frank about the failures of the public system.

    June 16, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    laurap
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    There is one that I personally liked better than Waiting for Superman.  It is called The Cartel.  If you are a netflix subscriber you can download instantly.  Although our children are not in public school it does impact us greatly.  Where I live a LARGE portion of my property taxes are for the school district and when you stop and think of how the money is ‘wasted’ and my family doesn’t even participate in a subpar school system it is maddening.

     

    June 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    joannarammell
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    about children with you in church and the whys…it is very personal for each family…but a lot of the different reasons can be found here…http://www.ncfic.org/

    we actually went to a family integrated church when we were in Phoenix…it was wonderful…they don’t have one where we are…but we have found a great church and we have the support of the pastor and his family in keeping our children with us…though we are different than others.  It has taken quite a bit of training …and will probably continue to take plenty of training!  but it is worth it for us.

    God Bless,

    jo

    June 16, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    LindseyD
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    Can’t wait to check out these resources you’ve all recommended! 

    In answer to your question about keeping kids in church, Diana, this previous thread might be insightful to you: http://simplycharlottemason.com/scmforum/topic/childrens-church-pros-cons

    Since starting that thread, we have made a permanent decision to keep our children with us in church. It has been well worth it. Ds 7 1/2 is now taking sermon notes on his own, without any prompting from dh or me. Both children (ds 7 1/2 and dd almost 6) participate in the singing and always get very excited when a song is sung that they are familiar with. Daddy plays in the praise band, so we sit up close to the front, and they enjoy watching him as well. 

    Hope that helps,

    Lindsey

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