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  • mom
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    Hello,

    We have been using Heart of Dakota for a lil while now and I love that the organization and planning is all done for me. I appreciate that there is a variety of subjects…hymns, poetry, etc. are all mixed in there. It has been working for us, but as I am reading the original cm series and other blogs and I am being inspired to ask those if you who have done HOD or spent time looking at it, what their opinion is of it and how it might NOT be considered cm. Would love feedback. I have done scm guides and found that season of life to be very blessed. I am considering going that route again, but I don’t know if I am just having an itch or what. Lol Thank u so much for any input. It really is greatly appreciated! 🙂

    Sara Murray
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    I would say HOD is CM “inspired” but it is not pure CM.  There are parts of HOD that really reflect CM’s teachings (short lessons and living books for example), but the author has put her own spin on things.  Carrie Austin used to be a public school teacher and has her masters in education and her curriculum really reflects her own ideals of a child’s education.  

    It really just comes down to personal preference as with all curriculum.  If you desire to stick to a 100% pure CM education, HOD might not work.  But there is a lot to love about HOD.

    I personally do not care for HOD, but not because it’s not CM enough.  There was just too many things about it that bugged me so we dropped it quite a while ago.

    Anyway, I don’t think I helped clarify anything for you, but these are just my thoughts. 🙂

    mom
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    Sara,

    Thanks so much for your thoughts. I see exactly what you are saying. One of the reasons I am asking is I find myself not enjoying schooltime anymore and I know it is rubbing off on my children’s attitudes as well. I don’t want to feel like we are just”doing school” to check off boxes. 🙁 I don’t know if *I* just need an attitude adjustment or if it really is the curriculum…

    Thanks again! 🙂

    pjssully
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    Hi

    I have  used HOD for almost a year before we moved on.  I really loved thateverything was planned out for me.That was a big thing for ME!  But the kids did not like HOD.  As we got to the older guides, there was a lotof busy work and twaddle in some things.  My daughter was an 8th grader when we used it and she was coloring and guleing.  Not the best use of time for a almost high school student.  She was also doing a state study that really was more busy work than anything.  And there was  a lap book that was suppose to be completed, which I really don’t think is the best use of time. My younger kids did like aspects of HOD, but again, I think there is busy work that really doesn’t need to be done.  Ihave had thoughts of going back to HOD occassionally because the planningis all done for me—but my kids just groan when I mention it.  And when I really think about it,  I would rather do a more “pure” CM approach.

    So, it is not bad if your students like the projects and crafts and coloring and such.  Mine just did not like that.  I think the author has her heart in the right place, and has put a lot of time and energy into her programs.  It just wasn’t a fit for us.  And like the other poster mentioned, it does seem to have a “school” feel to it-I also use to teach 2nd grade so maybe that is why I gravitate towards it!!LOL

    I am sure  you are doing o.k.using it.  Unless you really feel God is leading you to something different, I would stick with it through the semester/year.  You can change things then, if you want to.

     

    pj

    nebby
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    I think if you don’t enjoy it, you should change it up. I feel with local homeschool moms like its a but if a dirty secret that I enjoy my homeschool time with my kids but I do. Just another benefit of a CM education– that it can be enjoyable, interesting and educational for mom too.

    Nebby

    http://www.lettersfromnebby.wordpress.com

    greenebalts
    Participant

    I used HOD Drawn Into the Heart of Reading one year and did a review here…

     

    http://reflectionsfromdrywoodcreek.blogspot.com/2013/04/heart-of-dakota-drawn-into-heart-of.html

     

    I didn’t feel it was CM like.  You’ll see my reasoning there. 

     

    Blessings,

    Melissa

    http://reflectionsfromdrywoodcreek.blogspot.com/

    psreitmom
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    We used HOD for 2 and 1/2 years and had to stop to to focus on my daughter’s struggles in math and reading, due to her dyslexia. I am planning to do HOD again next fall. I think I am drawn to HOD because 1) it is planned out (I need that:) 2) I really like Carrie’s book choices so far and 3) I think there is excellent Bible and character training woven into the lessons. Honestly, there will probably be some of the ‘busy’ work that we will not do, because I still need to focus on reading/spelling and math. When we were in HOD previously, we did not make maps that were scheduled in the history/geography part. My daughter has some visual problems and maps would drive her crazy. Also, she didn’t do the science notebook exactly as instructed, since her writing skills are not strong. I am sure I will have to make adjustments when we go back to it. I like having the guide. But if some of the work does not fit my daughter’s needs, we will change some things. I may not be able to continue HOD when we get to the upper guides, depending on the level of books. My daughter is 10 and is still not working independently. I am going to take it slow and see how it goes. I am not going to be tied to the guide, and feel we have to complete things exactly according to the guide. I just know I can trust what HOD stands for and that my daughter will grow spiritually and in character by using it. CM teaching is finally making more sense to me, especially since I came here to SCM, so maybe certain aspects of HOD will need to be made more CM, but I am not going to hesitate using it.

     

    Melissa, Thanks for the review on DITHOR. I had wondered the same thing myself about it being repetitive. My daughter loves when I read to her, and I don’t want to take the joy out of it by making her do a lot of writing. I’m sure it is a good reading program, but because of my daughter’s LD, it would probably be too much. I’m sure she would just enjoy discussing what we read.

    HollyS
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    We used HOD for a few years.  My DC enjoyed it, but we switched for a few reasons.  I did think there was a bit of busy-work, especially with the art projects.  My DC wanted more room for creativity, which I was usually able to somewhat do.  Also, I didn’t like the idea of having several levels of HOD going at once.  I like them combined as much as possible, which we weren’t able to do.  Another issue was that my DC took forever on the notebook pages!  We currently do one or two pages a week and I keep them a bit more simple.

    Things I loved were the book choices, the hands-on math lessons, and having it all planned out.  We are currently using the LHTH preschool level of HOD…I just skip over activities that I don’t  care for.  I also still use her Emerging Reader program (it’s in the back of a couple of the teacher’s manuals).  My DC enjoyed the lessons for the most part.

    I would also consider it “CM Inspired”.  

    ServingwithJoy
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    I am actually considering HOD for my 7th grader to do independently next year. We will be studying the same time period (roughly Module 6 – 1850-modern times) as a family with SCM. The reasons we are considering it:

    1. She is ready to move into more independent work, but I wanted something that would help her organize her school day.

    2. The books correspond to what I would have selected anyway (in addition to the SCM resources, which she will also read).

    3. She is a voracious reader and I have always had to ‘pad’ her work.

    4. She loves hands on projects….and she has a momma who is soooo not good at assigning that type of thing. I think she will really enjoy the notebooking aspect.

    All that considered, she will probably NOT do all the busywork. She will probably NOT be required to do assignments that we feel are superfluous. In other words, we will adapt it to fit her. I am considering it a ‘base’ and a source of ideas.

    Also, we will not be using their grammar recommendations but will go with a more CM friendly English program. And DITHOR is out, for sure. Written narrations along with the book package are effective for her and will be continuing. Map studies will continue along the SCM lines. It is simple and effective.

    I have used HOD in the past. I LOVE the way it is scheduled (good pace, easy to organize your day, etc). I also love the ideas for activities – I am not a creative type so that is helpful for me!

    I did not love all of the book selections and the busywork. But after primarily using SCM, I feel much more free to take the good portions and substitute where I need to.

    I am a curriculum ‘tweaker’ and at some point I just had to accept that about myself ;0). SCM is the closest I have come to a no-tweak curriculum. Until I decide to write our own curriculum (ha!) I am happy to adapt the ideas from HOD or SCM to our particular style.

    mom
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    Thank u all for your thoughts. Seeing HOD as CM inspired makes perfect sense. I love many of the book choices and that everything is planned out. I knew DITHOR wasn’t CM and I think that will be the first to be dropped. I too miss having my students combined, yet I appreciate the ‘one on one’ influence HOD offers. Repetitive assignments that do not always correlate to the lesson do tend to bother me too. Also I do not feel the depth of conversation or narration is there. I think that is where my “lets just hurry and check off the box” mentality stems from. It does not feel like we are lingering on a topic, just surface learning. All that to say…I don’t feel confident enough to let go. I have tried to plan things out and it seems like when it is ME who makes the plan, I second guess myself and find myself replanning over and over and never going anywhere. The author herself says you cannot tweek HOD and I can see that each thing done seems to have purpose. I don’t think I can jus y tweek it to make it fit…

    I don’t know. I have a lot to think on…

    ServingwithJoy
    Participant

    Well, you have to realize that Carrie (the author) put a lot of thought into the curriculum and wouldn’t view ‘tweaking’ it as a positive. She believed it to be a complete system and that is how it is marketed. But you are the teacher of your kids, you are the steward of their education. If something isn’t working for them or if you feel it is lacking, you have the freedom to change it. God will give you wisdom to do what is best for your kids and to speak to their hearts and minds. I wouldn’t restrict that freedom just because someone else felt they had a good system! I respect Carrie greatly, but she isn’t living in my house teaching my children – I am ;0)!

    Anyway, that is one of the things I LOVE about SCM – there is a lot of freedom to make changes and do what feels right for your family. The All Day Seminar from SCM is an incredible resource to show you how to apply CM to all the different subjects that need to be taught. It is really incredibly fun when you realize that you can do exactly what you and your kids like to do (!) and give them a great education in the process.

    6boys1girl
    Participant

    I am a curriculum tweaker too. But decided to go with HOD this year since I thought having something totally planned out would help. It’s now mid-year and it wasn’t working so … I tweaked. AND it fell apart. So while you may be able to tweak HOD be aware that it could fall apart as it is designed to work as a whole curriculum. 

    For those who want more info: I decided to decrease the amount of copywork for my kids. They were just trying to get thru it and not learning anything from it. Plus it was taking time that could have better been spent elsewhere. One of my kids was doing CTC. Without the copywork, the notebook was left half blank so that became pointless. But I wanted them to do a timeline (which is part of the notebook pages) so… And on it went.

    I finally ended up doing my own thing for most subjects. And taking a few things from HOD that we really did like. Today is our first day using it and so far so good. 

    Just wanted people to be aware that it can fall apart if you mess with certain parts.

    -Rebecca

    mom
    Participant

    Rebecca,

    That has been my experience too. My oldest has a bad habit of dawdling and I struggle with trying figure out how much work he truly needs to do. He needs to just focus on math and writing mostly. The assignments in the hs geo guide are great for him, but he is a slow worker…so it will take him forever to get through a year if we do it fully as scheduled. Yet, there really isn’t a lot of room to let me tweek it to make it work for him. I am especially concerned since I only have a few more years to get him concrete in his basic skills and habits. Anyway, just wanted to pop in and say that I have found that to be true too.

    greenebalts
    Participant

    You’re welcome psreitmom.  I also have a dyslexic child and there’s no way he could have completed DITHOR as written.  I could have read the books aloud and did the workbook stuff orally.  As is, I read everything aloud to him.  Then he narrates or we have discussion and it’s beautiful.  I would encourage this method over the DITHOR program any day. 

     

    One positive that I really appreciated about DITHOR is the exposure to a variety of genres.  I still refer to HOD books lists on their websites.  We have a tendancy toward historical fiction, but I do think it’s important to mix it up from time to time. 

     

    I will say, I have not used any of the HOD history programs, just looked at them.  I’m a tweaker too and felt there were so many things I would tweak, I might as well start from scratch 🙂

     

    Blessings,
    Melissa

    http://reflectionsfromdrywoodcreek.blogspot.com/

    psreitmom
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    I guess my goal is to make sure we read the books listed. I may need to adjust some of the writing/drawing activities that go with it. We will use different math and maybe different English. I don’t think what I’m doing will make it fall apart. I just need to follow it at my own pace, so it doesn’t turn into ‘getting boxes checked off’. I’m not going to worry if an HOD day is not done in a day. That way we can add nature walks and other books to go with the topic if desired. If we get to a guide that seems too difficult, we will change. My daughter’s educational needs are out of the ordinary, so I have to take a day at a time.

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