History Rotation/Epi Kardia

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  • mommyagain
    Member

    Hi all!

    I’d like to get some CM’ers opinions. I’ve already purchased MFW 1st for the upcoming year, so I’m looking to the year after. I’ve just discovered Epi Kardia, a lit-based CM curriculum. The following is a quote from their website. “Our methodology, especially successful with younger students, applies the study of history from Creation to Modern each year. Beginning again every year allows students to:

    -move to fresh material more quickly: stay more engaged; recall information learned more easily, as it hasn’t been years since it was introduced; allows a layering effect to take place, making it easier to connect new knowledge to already learned information, which according to experts, is the way we learn.”

    So what do you think? Has anyone done history this way? I hadn’t considered it before but it kind of appeals to me.

    The other plan I’m considering is doing SCM modules as written and including American history alongside. Has anyone successfully done this?

    Sorry this is so long! I must have stayed away too long, and it’s made me “chatty” Embarassed!

    Thanks in advance!

    Cheryl

    missceegee
    Participant

    Hi Cheryl,

    I had never heard of Epi Kardia, but had a few moments and checked out their site. Here are my thoughts from taking 15 minutes to look it all over:

    • PROS: Many of the books do look like good living books.
    • CONS:
    • It is WAY too complicated for my liking. God has impressed upon me time and again the importance of simplifying. Homeschooling need not be complicated and for us it must be simplified so that we keep our sanity!Smile
    • I don’t believe that skimming the surface for 3-6 weeks will result in the same relationship with the time period and the people of the time period that lingering over the material for a year or so will result in.
    • I do not think every subject needs to be tied together in unit study fashion. While some people like this, I find that it is limiting in ways that do not work for us.
    • I dislike minutely detailed daily lesson plans – it is too inflexible for us.

    Now as to teaching American history along side world history, I did do that for 2 years successfully. However, I’m no longer doing both. We study wherever we are in our world history and simply listen to American history on audiobook and read occasional books. Again, I’ve discovered over and over, the beauty and effectiveness of simplicity.

    HTH,

    Christie

    my3boys
    Participant

    I just wanted to comment on how clearly stated your post is, missceegee.  There are several contributors to this site that make understanding this method so *understandable.* 

    I, too, have to agree with the idea of  simplicity and the benefit of lingering over a time period for history.  This method has given us a much better opportunity to acquaint ourselves to the people/culture/location of the period we’re studying than what we were using.  I don’t want to discredit any company/author/publisher, but the Mystery of History was very complicated for me, as well, and I really fell in love with that program.  But,  as we skimmed over a variety of places/people, etc. too quickly it felt disjointed (is that a word?), my kids had a harder time keeping up.  If we had wanted to cover a topic in depth I guess we could have but then I felt *behind* and sometimes couldn’t figure out what time period we were in.  I know that sounds silly, but the way we are approaching history has been much simpler and I think my kids have a better understanding of the world at the given time using this method.

    Once I create a time-line for my (almost) 8yo I think it will come together even more. My 11yo uses the BOC, my 7yo does for now with some guidance.

     

    mommyagain
    Member

    Thank you, Christie. You do make some valid points. I was originally drawn to SCM because of its simplicity and the freedom to choose my own resources. Epi Kardia is looking less appealing to me (although I do love some of their book choices). Thankfully I have a year to pray about it, and collect living books for my home library!

    My3boys, I agree that my kids would probably have a hard time keeping up with the frequent changes in time periods, especially since my kiddos have some delays anyway.

    Thank you so much for your input, Ladies!!  God Bless!!!

    I was just looking into Epi Kardia, and it looks pretty interesting to me.  I didn’t find that it’s too complicated.  It’s my understanding from their website that each Set is to be used for a 3-year time period, i.e., Set 1 includes Ancients, Middle Ages, & Renassaince/Reformation, so you would spend a year on each time period.  Maybe I’m mistaken in this, but that was what I gathered from it.

    Also, you have the option to do the Daily Lesson Plans, or use the Complete Program and write your own.  The complete program is actually cheaper because it does not have daily lesson plans.  Personally, I would use the daily lesson plans but I function better that way and it helps me be more accountable to getting the work done.

    I’m not sold on it yet, but it does look very promising and cost-effective for me, because I wouldn’t have to purchase separate language arts curriculum, history curriculum, science, etc.  It’s all there.  And I can use the same time period with all my kids so they’re all learning the same things together, which also helps.

    dana_wilson
    Participant

    Hello, All!

    I appreciate your looking at Epi Kardia and as one of its authors, I just wanted to clarify a few things.  Our original ‘complete curriculum’ components are written to be used for three years each.  Families can either progress through three units in a year, or they can start from Creation and move through all of the units each year for three years.

    We all know that learning is most effective when we can connect a new fact with something we have already learned.

    When my children were younger elementary, we studied the Ancient period of history for about a year. I LOVED it because I love this period of history.  My kids, on the other hand, were ready to move onto something else way before I did. Laughing And four years later when we rotated back through the Ancients, I was disappointed that they did not remember as much as I had hoped.  Studying the Ancients for six weeks is plenty long enough for the younger set! 

    As I used this new method, I found when children revisited a time period a year later, they could more easily make those connections and remember much more of what we had covered the prior year, allowing us to move more deeply into the material with each successive year. 

    As my children became older, we moved through history at a slower pace, especially when we reached middle school and the books were so much longer.  And we always have had the freedom to ‘camp out’ in a unit if we wanted to do more projects and/or investigation. Epi Kardia is written such that people can work at their own pace.

    Our Daily Lesson Plans came along later because some of our customers prefered to have a more detailed plan to follow with daily history, language arts, fine arts and science lessons integrated and already worked out for them so they could focus more on teaching and less on planning.This also allows, as luvmyfidgets mentioned, all subjects but math and foreign language to be taught using one curriculum.  Can’t get any simpler than that.

    We say many times in the curricula to tweak lessons and schedules to make them fit YOUR family.  After all, isn’t this why we homeschool?  We should not let ourselves be enslaved by any curricula, we should always use it as a guide. Each child is different, each year is different. 

    Anyway, this is what has worked for our family. 

    God’s blessings on your curricula searches and decision making!

    Dana

    Sonya Shafer
    Moderator

    Thanks for the clarifications, Dana. Very helpful!

    missceegee
    Participant

    I felt the need to update my above review of EpiKardia’s program even though this post is quite old.

    I’ve decided to use EpiKardia’s American History I for 9th grade.  I like the overview, narration and assignment topics, and evaluation rubrics.  I’m in a place where I need a break from putting it all together and EK fits the bill for us for dd14. I will continue to have a free reading list that dd will work through in addition, but I’m looking forward to this study.

    In the past, I wrote a negative review here (see above) of Ek’s younger programs based upon evaluation of their online samples. I have since had opportunity to look at all levels of their materials in person. I LOVE the looks of the high school plans – all those helps are perfect for me in this season. I’m still looking at the younger programs (daily lesson plans 3rd and intermediate unit plans) and haven’t come to a conclusion about whether they are right for us for the coming year, but I do change my review to a positive one.  The program is different in its approach to history from AO and SCM and some other CM programs, but it looks to be very solid with the shorter rotation approach. It also isn’t a unit study with all subjects tied to a theme as I originally thought from the online samples. The plans are detailed, but as with most things there are those that prefer the details some, all, or none of the time  and that really is just a preference. The details might contribute to complexity for some while contributing to simplicity for others.

    I have used and enjoyed all 6 of the SCM history handbooks and studies, some AO, some CMH, some on my own. I’ve come to the conclusion that there are many good programs that fit needs of different families at different times.

    The fact is anything with a living book basis is going to top the education I received and prepare my kids for a solid future regardless of the path they choose.  I was accepted to and given an almost full academic scholarship to Vanderbilt with my average public school education. While I chose not to attend for family reasons and went to a state school instead, the fact that I was accepted proves to me that the education my kids are getting will be excellent preparation for their futures because it has already exceeded mine by leaps and bounds and my oldest is in only 8th grade. I’m trusting the process more and realizing that there can be many paths even within the same philosophy.

    Blessings as you make your decisions.   (And please excuse typos from my phone entry.)

    christie

    sarah2106
    Participant

    Thanks for the updated review Christie. I had never heard of this program and it looks interesting.

    I am still browsing around their page, trying to sort it out. I am a bit confused how it is meant to be used for 3 years for the elementary years. You cycle through everything 3 years in a row reading new books every year? I have more investigating to do. 🙂

    The book lists look nice, just trying to figure out the in’s and out’s of the program. We are enjoying SCM year 4 this year, but going back to Early American next year, always tempted by new books and ideas.

    missceegee
    Participant

    It took me a bit to figure out the EK Unit program. I didn’t get the full idea from the samples, but only when I ordered it to check out. They recommend reading 1/3 of the books from each unit per year essentially, thus taking 3 years to go through the program repeating creation to modern each year.  Alternatively, it is suggested to go through chronologically one time, using all or most of the books for each unit and taking 3 years to do so. Does that help? I’m still unsure on the program for us, but I do have a much better grasp of it now.

    sarah2106
    Participant

    Thanks, that does help.

    Interesting… 🙂

    kellywright006
    Participant

    Wondering how EK worked for you @missceegee? Did you use it this past year?

    Can you also remind me of the name of your blog?

    missceegee
    Participant

    I have not used it Kelly,  I got it to consider for the coming year. I do not think it will be the fit for us, but I stand by the review I offered.

    My old blog is http://www.learningwithcharlotte.blogspot.com and I’m toying with a new one at http://www.4arrowsacademy.weebly.com, but I doubt I’ll do much with either.

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