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  • clay1416
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    Hi! I’m new to the CM style of homeschooling. I have been homeschooling for 3 years now officially (even though I like to say I have been homeschooling since birth) my son is 7 and has autism plus hypotonia. My style has been very laid back but I felt something was missing…and now I have been using the CM method for 5 weeks and I’m loving it! I have been reading like crazy all your post and just wanted to introduce myself 🙂 well, actually I have a few questions for those who are more experienced…since my son is autistic and language is not his forte I dont know how much of a narration I should be asking for. I know he is listening (most of the time) so what I have been doing is just showing him what a narration looks like. Today I tried to see what he would say if I asked him to tell me something about the story and he gave me a very tiny sentence. After thinking and saying a few “I dont know” he finally said “it’s a bird” That’s a start I guess 🙂

    The second question is about nature walks, I take him and my little three year old and the one who seems excited to be out is the little one and not him. He enters his own world (8 walks out of 10) and misses all those things his little sister IS noticing. I’m getting discouraged 🙁 should I point to him the flowers, animals? I try to do so but he just goes back to singing.

    Thanks everybody! 🙂

    Sonya Shafer
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    Welcome, clay1416! I had to smile when I read your post because it reminds me so much of my experiences with my youngest who has autism. Here’s a little technique that helped with her narrations. Keep in mind that she has developmental delays, as well, especially in expressive language skills; so I didn’t start asking for a narration until she was 11 or 12, I think. 

    We have scaffolded her nature studies, yes. Since her hearing is so sensitive, we started with that sense. On our walk, I asked her to tell me what she heard, and I wrote it down in her nature notebook. As the weeks/months have progressed, we have expanded to writing down what she sees as well. And I am not hesitant to mention what I see too. 🙂  We’ve coupled that with trying to build on her interest in birds. I did an Internet search for “backyard birds of Georgia” and printed out the images of about five or six and labeled them. Then we looked at one each week or two and began watching for it at our birdfeeder. Whenever we saw one and identified it, we put the bird image in her special bird book, which was a record of only those birds she has personally seen. I’d really like to add this year the songs they sing, because we hear them singing in the trees out back even when we can’t see them. And with her sensitive hearing, she really notices their songs.

    I hope these ideas give you some encouragement! We can still use CM methods with our autistic ones; we just break those methods down into smaller bites and do whatever scaffolding helps. It sounds like you’re doing a great job!

    By the way, I love that your son is singing! Does he sing indoors too? Or is it that nature is helping him organize his thoughts enough to sing? Or just that nature makes him contented? I’m curious. Smile It’s always fascinating to try to figure out what’s going on inside their heads.

    Questa7
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    I just wanted to say that I have a son with very similar issues. We are starting K5 next month, with a combination Waldorf/Charlotte Mason approach. I would love to talk to you more!

    clay1416
    Participant

    Thanks for your responses! it’s good to know you are not alone in this! 🙂 it does feel like that sometimes.

    Sonya: thanks for all the tips and the help! I read your blog and will be trying that with my son. I realized I was asking too much question and pushing too much. I have decided to just wait and be patient (so hard!). My son has also been diagnosed with developmental delay…but I dont think his is as severe as the psychologist told me at fist…I just think he doesnt test well. He is delayed, that I know, but I have faith he will get farther than what “they” told me he would. It’s so nice to hear your daughter is enjoying the birds and nature in general. I hope we will get there eventually. Maybe he DOES enjoy nature, just not the way I expect him to do so. He like music but when we are outside during our nature walk is just non stop…maybe it’s what you said, he is just happy and singing is his way of showing it! I never thought of it like that 🙂 that does give it a positive feel to it.

    Questa7: hi! I would love to hear from you and how your son is doing! it will be nice to swap ideas 🙂 or even talk to someone who understands on those days when nothing seems to go the way we planned it!

    Carolyn
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    Welcome clay1416! 

    My dc are 5 yo ds and 2yo ds.  We will start a K year in September. You have come to the right place for wisdom and encouragement in your homeschooling journeySmile

     

    Sue
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    I’ve been reading a book by Temple Grandin, who has autism but has quite remarkably exceeded early expectations and actually has a PhD and designs equipment and systems for cattle handling. The book is called, The Way I See It, and it is mostly a series of articles she has written about autism.

    She states that there are three major types of thinking among autistic people: visual thinkers (who picture things as they learn), music & pattern thinkers (who tend to be good at music & math), and verbal thinkers (who tend to narrate a lot of facts & typically like history). If your son happens to be a music/pattern thinker, then the lovely plants, birds, or insects you are pointing out might not mean as much to him. I would have to go back a chapter or two to see if she has more to say about how to teach the various types of thinking, but you might want to get the book for yourself.

    While she doesn’t come right out and advocate homeschooling, she does mention it once or twice in the book with no particular opinion for or against it. She does, however, suggest that autistic kids need at least 20 hours per week of one-on-one learning time, and she states that it is unlikely that such children would receive more than an hour or two per week in most school settings. She suggests finding volunteers (grandparents, older siblings, neighbors, church friends) who can help you with this by recruiting them to play specific games, go on walks, etc., with your child. Thus, it would seem that homeschooling is an excellent way to provide a lot of this needed one-on-one time.

    clay1416
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    Hi Sue! it’s nice to hear from another fellow mom who is going through a simmilar journey 🙂

    I love Temple Grandin! and I know which book you are talking about. She is so good and the way she explains the three different ways ASD brains work is amazing! From what I have been able to observe on my son I believe he is a visual thinker…I’ll tell you why: just like Temple he categorizes concepts from things he has seen. I would tell him “we are goint to the park to play with friends” and he would start giving me a list of all the friends he had…so for him the concept of friend is not like mine but for him friend means “John, and Joshua, and Benjamin, and etc” Also, he has a memory that amazes not only me but his therapist. He remember things like a photograph in his mind. He loves to match visual images for example, his uncle came to visit us and he ran to showed him a picture he had with him when he was a baby (I had even forgotten we had that photograph in an album).

    Now, how I match all of this with learning CM style, I am still searching for that answer 🙂 so if you have any advice I will love to hear it and learn!

    On a good note we are doing much better with our nature walks now! He is having more inniciative like last week he asked to see what happened to the ant hills after a storm 🙂 and during our nature walk around our neighborhood he asked where was the mushroom we had seen 3 weeks ago…a total surprise to me cause the day we originally saw the mushroom he looked uninterested.

    Have a blessed day!

    chocodog
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    Welcome Sue,

        Glad you found SCM. I also liked Sue Patricks workbox system. Her son has autism. She has webinars all about how she makes her learning centers. The workboxes help them focus on getting all of their work done. It also makes it easy for them to learn.   I hope it helps. It has seemed to help me more.  My kids love learning centers.

                   Blessings!  Hope to see you on more often.  Smile

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