I like it. I’m thinking about: All-In-One English Series for 7th & Applications of Grammar, Basics for Communicating Effectively for 8th (CLP). I’m not sure on the All-in-one… I’m wondering if it would work to jump straight into App of grammar for 7th. Or maybe Our Mother Tongue in 7th & then App of grammar for 8th.
We’re just about to start Our Mother Tongue next week so I can’t say much about it yet. We’re doing JAG right now. And this is where I show my ignorance about grammar, but can’t you just label where it says to diagram?
The diagramming in Analytical Grammar was just what my 2nd daughter needed for grammar to click. She got both the parsing and the diagramming which I finally realized are two different skills. Also consise, fast, no fuss.
I would do CLE if you just want a straight forward grammar.
Applications of Grammar is definitely worth looking at.
Ladies, thank you for helping me to think this through a bit. I am still not sure what we will use for 7th next year, but I have decided to have dd12 work through R&S 5 beginning this week. There are many exercises that I think will be beneficial. She can work through it on her own just fine, I think. I will re-visit 7th grade grammar in a bit, but in the mean time, this will give us a very good start. There are 119 lessons and I think she will be able to breeze through many of them to complete the book by fall. I will just weed some of the work so it isn’t so much.
I use OMT. I do know a few moms who think it moves too fast. It has some diagramming but not a lot. I actually supplement the diagramming part since it really works for me. (Just got a book of exercises from Grammar Revolution to work through with my 12yo who needs more practice–he’s part way through OMT.) I like OMT a lot, but have known moms it just didn’t do the trick for. I’m on my third pass through the book, lol. First two sons took do it like ducks to water. Third ds is having a more challenging time. Which is why we are stepping back and supplementing and diagramming until he gets caught up to our current concept.
Sorry busy weekend. Question about Grammar Key – you need nothiing but the CD to do the program. Does it diagram? Yes and no. Not like I ever remember with lines and branches coming off it. It’s done in a different way. Let’s see if I can describe it. Each leason they learn another part of speach. As they learn it, it is given a color and abbreviation (just like if you were writing it you would do N for noun). So lets say lesson one is on Nouns. You would get a sentence and then you would move your mouse over the word and click on the one you think is the Noun. If you are right it turns the color (all these are listed at the bottom of the page each and ever time) and then it moves to the next page (sentence – as one sentence is only shown at a time). If you get it wrong it beeps and does not change. You have to get it right for it to continue. They can re-do the lesson as many times as you want. For us I insist that my kids don’t move forward till they get 95%. High I know but I want to do this once and be done. I hope that explains it ok.
We tryed AG and it just didnt’ work for us. My kids were upset, and didn’t get it. This they get and because it corrects as they go I don’t worry about them getting it wrong then (thinking it’s right all day) then I correct it and find out hours later it wasn’t right.
After consistently working the grammar issue for YEARS with minimal resulta, lots of confusion and far too much time, we made a switch this year to AG and we. love. it. Grammar takes 15 minutes – TOPS! My 11 and 14 yo are getting it! IT is painless and quick and effective. In the first 2 weeks of using AG I called the AG office every day with a question. They quickly made me realize I was overthinking the whole process. We finished season one by Christmas and are doing the practice sheets every few weeks. The minimal amount of time involved makes it very doable on a daily basis. We are on top of grammar! I know this thread is a month old, but I had to share fwiw. AG has excellent customer service, so if you have challenges call or email them. They even returned one of my calls while on vacation.
If Rod and Staff is still an option, have your child just do half of the problems. We do this most of the time. Also, a lot of it can be done orally in just a couple of minutes. I’ve used all of the programs you listed and agree with your pros and cons. We keep going back to Rod and Staff because of the way it explains things. It’s the easiest to understand. (I used AG in high school with success but trying it earlier was just too much for my children.) I have a love/hate relationship with Easy Grammar. Overall, I really like it (style of diagramming, prep. first). One of the things I found lacking in it was the correlation between grammar and writing. The whole purpose of learning grammer is to be able to speak and write well. For us, EG, was a waste of time because it didn’t relate it to writing. (BTW, that is a great positive of CQLA/ Meaningful Compositon.) All in all, Rod and Staff seems to have the perfect blend for us (at least until grade 7).
Would you consider Shurley Grammar? It wasn’t something I would’ve picked, but when my oldest was in 3rd grade, they offered it at our co-op. he didn’t have anything else to do during that hour and he asked me if he could take it just for fun. We had not started formal grammar at home, so I figured it since it wouldn’t interfere with anything at home, there wouldn’t be any harm in letting him take it. Well, it turned out that he LOVED it and we’ve used it ever since. (he’s in sixth grade now). There is no diagramming-just what they call classifying (labeling) and it goes along nicely with our Latin. Just a thought….