Just when I thought I found the perfect grammar curriculum for my 12 year old daughter, I’ve changed my mind. I was going to use Fix it grammar, but have decided not to. Ive looked into AG, and it has too much diagramming for her. So now I’m looking at Our Mother Tongue, Queens, and LLATL. Has anyone used any of these that can tell me about them? Are they mostly independent? TIA!
Curious why you decided against Fix It Grammar? We used AG with my oldest a couple years ago (She’s 10th grade now). It was really heavy on diagramming but also the sentences were boring!
We are using Fix It Grammar right now with my 6th and 5th graders and they love it.
I highly recommend Get Smart Grammar. Much preferred among the group of kids and parents I taught with one year of AG and then switched to GS. Clear, direct instructions and explanations. Uses a chart instead of traditional parsing. Lots of diagramming, but room to do it. Sentences aren’t exciting, but it was very effective.
I just came across Sentence Composing from Killgallion (I think that is the name.). There are elementary, middle school, and high school levels. I’m using this with my almost 10 year old. Love it!
Ive read mixed reviews on Fix it Grammar and some people were saying that it’s teacher intensive and took a lot of time to correct it. I have a baby due this summer and my time is very limited. I will check out Get Smart Grammar.. Thanks!
Day 1 of the week: I teach the lesson (5 minutes) and we define the vocab word and label the parts of the sentence. Then the kids write a fixed copy of the sentence into their notebook. (By the end of the year they will have the entire correct story in their own handwriting in a notebook.)
Days 2-4 the kids correct the day’s sentence, define the vocab word, and check the teacher’s manual that they corrected the sentence right. Mistakes are brought to me. If it is right they copy it into their notebook.
Missceegee, we are doing SCM Using Language Well with my oldest who is 9 years old. I have been planning to use Get Smart Grammar. When would you start Get Smart Grammar? I have heard some say around 6th grade is a good time.
Not trying to sound like I’ve got all the answers or have one up on anyone else in this forum, but as an English major and former editor, I wanted my girls to learn the exactness required in writing–how a phrase out of place, a misplaced modifier, incorrect punctuation, etc. can affect one’s meaning and clarity. To do so requires parsing and diagramming. Diagramming is essential to understand how the words in a sentence are connected. You simply would not believe the kind of work I had to plow through with authors as I helped them write their books. I did not simply fix grammar and punctuation; rather, I was a substantive editor. So I had to help them write the content in a clear, grammatically correct way so that my copy editors wouldn’t have to fix it 🙂
We used Get Smart Grammar for my two oldest as an intro to grammar. I taught them together, and they were in 5th and 7th grades at the time. We followed up with AG the following year to intensify their understanding as well as to give them guidance and reinforcement on capitalization and punctuation rules, which is not included in GSG.
My girls love the process given in the student book of AG for parsing and diagramming. AG puts a concrete process on paper as a flow chart, and within two days of completing a few sentences together, they had the complete process down (the complete process happens midway through Season 1). The process pulled the concepts together in a concrete way.
I had first purchased Shurley Grammar when they were really young–before my CM breakthrough–and did not like it at all. With Fix It, I didn’t find it intensive or challenging enough. As for the sentences in AG, I have to respectfully disagree with the earlier review. We love the sentences in AG because they connect as an actual paragraph of information, interesting historical information. I found the sentences and layout a wonderful complement to writing instruction since they sentences were actually connected. The girls even commented on how nice it was to have sentences that meant something instead of sentences that were single thoughts with no context. Their overall paragraph writing has improved because of AG’s multifaceted approach and layout. You need no English or grammar background to do either program.
I am going to follow this same pathway for my two younger ones when they get to those grade levels as it has worked well going from concept (GSG) to more concrete (AG). Having said that, this, of course, is simply our experience. It is always a journey, and I am always willing to change things up to accommodate learning styles and goals, which is why reading on this forum is so helpful!
what grammar curriculum should I use I thought of using rod and staff English 1 or English for the thoughtful child vol.1 for my 7 yo any suggestions would help me determine were to place him this year I know that English for the thought child vol1 is highly recommended in the cm community but it looks slow going