Geography help, please

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  • Linabean
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    Hi everyone,

    My kids are 8 and 6. We are doing Module 2 history/ bible/geography and are struggling with “A Child’s Geography, Vol.2”. It seems to be going over my dc heads for the most part. I am finding it difficult to engange them with this book and am needing to do a lot of discussion and explaining for them to understand a lot of the writing. I’m not sure if it is the writing style or if this is just something that was written for older elementary. My 8dd does slightly better… well, she tries a little harder anyway. I have already significantly shortened the lessons and, like I said, have started using more discussion. These have both helped but have not completely fixed the problem and have, actually, created new ones. When we need to add in so much discussion it takes away the narrating time (not that they were able to narrate from this book to begin with anyway!) and with the significantly shorter lessons we are WAY behind now and I feel like we won’t EVER get through this resource! I don’t think it is very CM to need to force your children to try to absorb the knowledge and I feel like I am talking WAY to much.

    Does anyone have any alternative suggestions for this book? Is there a list of living books about these individual countries that I could check out of the library? I would be soooo happy if someone could help me out with this. Thanks.

    -Miranda

    Richele Baburina
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    Hello Miranda,

    This book did not work for us either and we gave it a valiant try.  Our children are the same ages as yours but I don’t think it is a matter of age – it didn’t work for me either and I love Ann Voskamp’s writing outside of this.  I cut it (it’s on the free reading shelf) and added “Drive Thru History – Ancient History.”   Since this is our first rotation, I went ahead and chose some readings from “A Wonder Book” and my eight-year-old read “Archimedes and the Door of Science” (listed in Grades 4-6).  We have map drill once a week and look up everything on the maps and globe during our readings.

    You may want to try a search on ‘living books ancient history.’

    Best,

    Richele

    Linabean
    Participant

    Thanks Richele,

    I will check these things out right away! One question. In your opinion does the Drive Thru History actually help with the geography aspect. I do want my kids to know how cultures differ in other countries, how people live there, what it feels like and looks like, not just where it is on a map. I think that’s why I am so dissapointed that this resource isn’t working for us. At least I can honestly say I tried!

    Thanks again for letting me know what you are using instead.

    God Bless!

    Miranda

    Richele Baburina
    Participant

    Miranda, I have not had much success finding current living books for children re Turkey and am hoping someone has some suggestions.  A culture’s poetry is something you and your children might find enjoyable. 

    Personally, we love Drive Thru History and there was a recent thread on this forum with many recommendations.

    We read “The Seven Wise Princesses” which is a retelling of the Persian epic poem by Haft Paykar.  

    We’ve also enjoyed “One City, Two Brothers” and you can find a list of Jewish books at pjlibrary.org 

    Another thought is to look at cultural centers’ book lists or, if possible, head to some ethnic restaurants where you might be able to make new friends and ask lots of questions.

    God bless you as well!

    Richele

    Rachel White
    Participant

    The All through the Ages  by Chrisitine Miller resource has a section specifically on Geographical History, where it is broken down into 26 countries with living books broken up into grades 1-3; 4-6; 7-9; 10-12 and overview for each country of ‘specific events’;’bios’;’historical fiction’; and ‘culture’ for each of those grade spans.

    Rachel

    HeidiS
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    I am using Anne Voskamps Childs geography 2 this year for our 2nd go round with the Ancients. My dd is 11 and is really enjoying listening to the story. I do agree it is too old for 6 to 8 year olds to fully benefit from, but keep in mind it is written TO the child- meant for them to read as if they were reading and writing their own journal, so it does lose something when we read it aloud to them, if you know what I mean? Anyhow, we have a friend of my dd over for school 2/3 days a week and she is 12, almost 13. I feel like they are at the right age for the information in the book, but they feel it is written to ‘young’ for them. So I read it, changing it to 3rd person as we go and so far it is working well. I don’t want to lose the geography that this book brings to life so well, especially as we are also reading about Alexander the Great and his conquests down the middle east and across Asia- this book connects it all very well. I actually just figured out this time round that Alexander actually went through Lebanon and what is now Israel and you can actually get a feel for it while reading the book. Also loved the bit about Jonah and Ninevah, having the girls realize there is still a spot in Iraq named for Jonah and that the Iraqi stories also tell about Jonah makes it very real to them.Much better than a history text thats for sure..

    Linabean
    Participant

    Thank you ladies, I appreciate the input. I am very interested in the Drive Thru History series. They will get to “see” the country and the land at least this way. I will see of our library has them, as cost is a concern. It still seems to me like all the resources out there focus on the history and not so much the geography like A.V. book does. I feel like we already have history for this time period covered adequately. So anyway, I’m just nervous about not covering geography well enough without the A.V. book. Thank you for the suggestions and advice.

    God Bless,

    Miranda

    momto2blessings
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    I don’t know if this is common, but  a large church in our town has a library with Drive Thru History—anyone can check out.  Also, our library will sometimes buy items patrons request.  Just a thought:)  Gina

    Rachel White
    Participant

    Miranda,

      if I may offer a simpler solution beyond using another curriculum and much less stressful. If you don’t have wall maps at easy access where the chidlren can see them easily, I suggest that. I know they don’t make the best wallpaper, but having them on our dining room wall exposes my children frequently to both America and the World, practically learning by osmosis!

      For every book we read, barring fantasy reads, they look up where the story takes place and what route the characters take within the story. That’s it. They do it automatically now, rarely do I need to initiate this place-finding expedition. They also do the same regarding current events.

      So, it’s that easy! It seamlessly incorporates itself into history and current events. First, you’ll have to stop and require them to find the places you’re reading about or hearing about on the news, but after a while, they will want to know for themsleves because it will make the story incomplete if they don’t.

      As for learning the cultures of each of these places, most of that will probably come from the books you’re already using. If you want more exposure, then I recommend All Through the Ages mentioned above, for the excellent booklists it has organized for the countries.

      Rachel

    momto2blessings
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    I don’t know if this is what you’re looking for, but we’re doing Module 5 and I thought that’s where it was recommended to read “What The World Eats” by Peter Menzel.  Not seeing it now, though?  Anyway, I got this from our library and we’re enjoying it.  It has a 2-3 page spread with nice pictures talking about different countries and what they eat.  We read the spread and look the country up on the map. Gives a nice little feel for the country. But this may not be the countries you’re looking for.  :)Gina

    sheraz
    Participant

    We are doing a lot of our geography on a wall map on our dining room wall too, just the same as Rachel.  My husband has sent away for all these free vacation brochures available – and this one company has all these wonderful places to see and it describes them.  He started this for fun (not knowing that I counted it for geogrpahy) by having the kids look all the places on the map.  When they find them, they talk about the pictures and what the people do there.  It really just helps with recognition issues.  They also have 2 uncles who travel around the world for their work, so we look up where they are in relation to us… Of course, we look up current events (Japan, Austrailia, New Zealand, Eygpt, Libya…) and others as things are happening there.  We found a lot of ex-library geography books at our local Friends of the Library sale.  Also, if you google them on line, lots of places have cool things to read and print about the location.  We read “Misty of Chincoteague” and looked it up on line for a map and found a park guide with the vegetation, wildlife, and other fun information.  However!  Look it up before you bring your kids to the computer – one of the beaches in that area was a nude beach (I wasn’t aware of the that prior to this and was glad that we didn’t have to have the whole modesty talk again =) ). 

    I had a book about Italy and its food once – it covered all the geograpical regions for food and then had recipes from each region.  Our diet didn’t allow us to eat that, so I gave it away.  There were several in that series though.  It would be a fun way to study. 

    I also checked out travel guides and we “walked” our way through the countries, looking at the pictures of the architecture, clothing, transportation, cafes and restuarants.  We even planned “trips” a few times.  Then if we have more interest, we go to the children’ reference section and get more in depth books.  There are also films about countries available at our library.  They enjoyed those.  If you want a “record” of their stuff, the enchanted learning site has little worksheets and books they could print and make about your countries.

    This also applies to all 50 states of the US as well.

    Linabean
    Participant

    Thank you ladies! I think I have some ideas, now, that I think I can pull together without to much cost but that will still accomplish what I think is important.

    God Bless!

    Miranda

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