Dropping my endorsement of All About Spelling (AAS) & Returning to SWR

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  • January 16, 2013 at 10:17 pm
    missceegee
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    Sound Literacy is a great app. Worth the cost. 

    Janell – I’m sending you a PM. 

     

    January 17, 2013 at 4:27 am
    danceandbeglad
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    I am teaching my dd5 to read with Delightful Reading, and using Penny Gardner’s italics handwriting program. Would SWR still be practical for me to use primarily for the spelling aspect? I’m wondering if I could get by using just the WISE guide and the phonogram/rule cards?  Any thoughts? Would this be overkill? I’ve been reading about SWR all evening and am really interested in integrating the methods.

    January 17, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    missceegee
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    SWR will be very effective for spelling alone. You could use just the items you mentioned, but the SWR book is very helpful. It is the instruction manual of sorts. Admittedly, it could use a MAJOR re-write to make it as streamlined as possible, but it’s doable.

    The first 11 (I think it’s 11.) steps in SWR should be done before starting WISE guide. The main ones being to learn the basic alphabet phonogram sounds and how to write them. When you start list A in WISE Guide, it will refer to SWR as needed. SWR elaborates on the dictation process and has completed examples of the learning log reference pages. You create your own reference teacher’s log(s) to go with. I wish this came pre-made, but building it helps you understand the process.

    Unfortunately, I sold all of my SWR materials so I had to repurchase them and am starting from scratch. Ugh.

    January 17, 2013 at 9:46 pm
    LDIMom
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    I didn’t read the whole thread, but I wanted to mention a resource I learned about on here. Can’t remember who shared it but it is a book called “Uncovering the Logic of English.” My son, 13, who just began learning English 2 1/2 years ago is SAILING along now that we have this book. He NEEDS to know the whys as Mandarin is so different than English. With this book, he now can at least know why even if he still thinks it is ridiculous that the same sound is spelled ten ways (kind of agree with him LOL!).

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936706210/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=rofoatleonmo-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=1936706210&adid=1FM5XWMFWMNZJDS2B3QC

    My only wish is that Denise would make a companion study book to go with it! I have thought of emailing her to see if she would be interested as I’m beginning to make some of my own worksheets (gasp!) to use for my son, using this book. He needs the extra practice.

    We also use PLL alongside this and Spelling Power as well, which works well for our children overall.

    January 17, 2013 at 9:47 pm
    LDIMom
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    P.S. I have never used AAS, but just thought I’d throw out the book b/c several people were talking of their children needing to know the rules. Denise’s book really lays them ALL out and it is just a wonderful resource!

    January 17, 2013 at 10:20 pm
    missceegee
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    There is Logic of English essentials curriculum by Denise Eide. I bought it. It’s good, but I already know SWR. I want to sell the LOE curriculum. Pm me if interested.

    January 17, 2013 at 10:49 pm
    JennNC
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    Christie ~ just sent you a pm. 

    January 18, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    TailorMade
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    I’m assuming the SWR (or, is it SRW?, can’t figure it out) is similar to The Writing Road to Reading, by Romalda Spaulding. It uses markings, phonograms, the word list, spelling notebook.

    Just wanted to say that I used it with my eldest and third child with excellent spelling results. Second child couldn’t deal with it and I was worn out by the work of it all. I used AVKO’s adult spelling profeam with him for quite a while it seemed to work, but memory is an issue with him, so virtually none of the approaches truly work for the long term. Never went back to TWTR with youngest two and I’m not seeing spelling ability success at all. Was considering a year of SW, but I’m wondering now if I’m spinning my wheels and just need to “do the time.”

    Truth is, my kids want to spell well. Like the Sunday School post in another thread, it frustrates them because everything takes much longer when spelling is difficult. It’s just like math taking longer if you don’t know your math facts.

    Not sure I’ve helped any, but to say I understand and keep learning right along with you.

    🙂

    Becca<><

    January 18, 2013 at 6:50 pm
    HiddenJewel
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    Here are a couple of blog posts I have written on SWR. I do slow SWR down is it is needed for the student but there are some basic parts of it that I do not deviate from because they are the core to the program working.

    http://hiddenjewelalaska.blogspot.com/2009/11/understanding-spell-to-write-and-read.html

    http://hiddenjewelalaska.blogspot.com/2011/02/are-you-confused-by-spell-to-write-and.html&nbsp;

    January 18, 2013 at 10:56 pm
    HiddenJewel
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    I am teaching my dd5 to read with Delightful Reading, and using Penny Gardner’s italics handwriting program. Would SWR still be practical for me to use primarily for the spelling aspect? I’m wondering if I could get by using just the WISE guide and the phonogram/rule cards?  Any thoughts? Would this be overkill? I’ve been reading about SWR all evening and am really interested in integrating the methods.

     

    The strength of the SWR program is really in the method, not just in the words. But you can definitely just use the WISE Guide and phonogram cards as a source for spelling words. SWR is actually a great way for a student to learn to read too.

    January 18, 2013 at 11:00 pm
    HiddenJewel
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    Here are a couple of blog posts I have written on SWR. I do slow SWR down is it is needed for the student but there are some basic parts of it that I do not deviate from because they are the core to the program working.

    http://hiddenjewelalaska.blogspot.com/2009/11/understanding-spell-to-write-and-read.html

    http://hiddenjewelalaska.blogspot.com/2011/02/are-you-confused-by-spell-to-write-and.html&nbsp;

     

    That second link should be http://hiddenjewelalaska.blogspot.com/2011/02/are-you-confused-by-spell-to-write-and.html

    January 18, 2013 at 11:52 pm
    missceegee
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    I agree with Hidden Jewel re the method being important. I was trying to convey it works well for spelling alone when the child already reads.

    May 14, 2015 at 7:50 pm
    Sherrirob6
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    Missceegee – Did you sell your LoE Essentials?  If not, I am interested.

     

    If sold, is there anyone else that has LoE information and/or LoE Essentials for sale?

     

    Thanks:)

    May 14, 2015 at 9:49 pm
    missceegee
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    Yes. Long ago. Sorry.

    May 15, 2015 at 12:02 am
    anniepeter
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    Janell and Christie… If you have time, i have a question.  How do you/will you start your students?  Do you teach them to read using CM methods, or just the SWR?  I’m currently using Delightful Reading, and I’m contemplating if and how I want to use the SWR concepts/rules/phonograms…As well as whether i will use the same method for the next child who is quite different.

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