My four girls are supposed to tidy their rooms, make their beds, and put away clean laundry before coming downstairs for breakfast. The girls share two rooms (two girls, one bed in each room). Every 9 months or so, they switch roommates. It doesn’t seem to matter who is who’s roommate, there is always fighting and bickering. “She’s not working.” “She’s making me do the whole room.” “She’s un-doing what I’ve done.” Etc., etc., etc.
I have tried not allowing them to eat breakfast (which punishes me because then they clamor for snacks when we should be doing school). I have tried taking away privileges (no dessert, etc.). I’ve tried running upstairs and checking the rooms each time they say they’re done – that works for a short time. (And breakfast usually gets burnt.)
I guess some of it is my problem….When I come downstairs, I don’t go back up. I do all my room chores and laundry putting away and laundry gathering and then I’m downstairs for the day. (Unless if I have an actual project to do upstairs.) I expect them to do the same.
Karen- I too have struggled with being downstairs trying to get breakfast going while they are finishing up upstairs. One thing that I have had to do with my two girls that share… they do their room chores at differnt times. They do not make beds and clean their rooms at the same time, but rather in shifts. That way they don’t fight. One does her bit, I do a quick check, then the other does her bit of work. Wish I didn’t have to do all that but it saves some sanity. Hope that helps.
What about changing when chores are done? Do it after breakfast and make breakfast earlier. Do it before bed so they wake to clean rooms and no laundry to put away. Do it around lunch. Maybe the time change will make for less fussing at one another and about one another?
The other real solution is to be there with them daily to observe and train them in what to do and how to leave each other alone while doing it. Then when you are no longer up there (once they are well trained) if arguments arise have a stack of chores they hate to hand out for arguments/complaints. During the training time plan breakfasts that won’t burn. 😉 So make muffins and while they cool you’re overseeing kids. Put oatmeal in the rice cooker. Have yogurt and fruit. You get the idea!
Alternate days. Each child does ALL the cleaning of the room every other day. Potential for unfairness when non cleaning child is extra messy? Yes. Potential for learning that you don’t want to make extra work for others when they can make extra work for you, or that cleaning up your own mess / half the mess isn’t so bad. Yes. 🙂
Oh, such good ideas. Now i have to pick just one and stick with it! *L*
Do you mind if I just complain a wee bit about being a parent? The thing I hate the worst about being a mom is that I have to discipline MYSELF first. Hate, hate, hate that! *L*
Thanks, ladies, for the ideas and the Tristan, for the reminder that I need to be there with them instead of multi-tasking as I want to do.
2 things I’ve done that worked with our 3 girls: make sure they know where everything belongs–and— I tell mine if someone is not working, but sitting around while everyone else is picking up, that person will pick up by themselves. My girls work faster knowing they don’t want to be left in a room by themselves picking up.
Since they complain about who’s not doing what, could you change it around to where they must each report to you 3 good things that someone else accomplished. They would all have to have done some work in order to receive a good report and each would have to notice the work of the others. This could be tied in to several habits. Encouraging them to express appreciation to each other.
I split the boys up – one is in charge of the bedroom and the other is in charge of the living room/play room. The new rule is that they have to come down and ask me to check it before we have breakfast. It helps that THEY are reminding ME!
I did read everyone’s post, and you’ve gotten some really good suggestions so far.
In your original post, you said that if the girls miss breakfast, they’re clamoring for food during school time. Honestly, I get it, but I wonder if making them go without a couple of times might not help you get your desired result of clean rooms before breakfast. If they know what to do, how to do it, and when it’s expected of them to be finished and they still can’t complete the job, then they should not be rewarded with breakfast. Period. Unless you’re willing to implement Tristan’s suggestion to have breakfast first and then tidy the rooms, then don’t serve them breakfast until what you’ve asked is done. If you explain, “Girls, I’m sorry you didn’t make your beds and put away your laundry in time today, but I just can’t serve you breakfast because it’s time to start school. You’ll have to wait until lunch (or mid-morning snack, if this is something you do) to eat. You will not complain about this either. You have had plenty of time to complete your work and you chose not to. Hopefully, you’ll make a better choice tomorrow.”
If, during school time, they’re slacking or complaining about being hungry, you already instructed them not to, so that behavior has crossed over from dawdling to outright disobedience, which you would have to deal with in an appropriate manner.
I also noted that you have taken away dessert for not having the chores completed. And I wonder exactly what that accomplishes? It seems to me that, in order to make a lasting effect and change the behavior, the consequence should naturally fit the behavior. To me, dessert and room tidiness or dawdling don’t really have much to do with each other. However, you cutting into their play time later in the day and having them do the jobs then seems to be a more natural consequence. They took up your valuable time in the morning by dawdling, so they should repay it later in the day when they’d rather be playing, reading, or doing whatever they would normally do for fun.
Have you ever thought about having them complete the room tidying and laundry BEFORE bed? In our home, we have what’s lovingly referred to as “bedtime cleanup”. This takes place during the 30 minutes prior to being tucked in. Each child has to not only completely straighten his/her own room, but also go around the house and see if they have any toys, shoes, books, or other belongings that they’ve used throughout the day and not put away. Then they must lay out their clothes for the next day, so that in the morning, they’re ready to go.
Finally, perhaps you could delay making breakfast until after everyone is downstairs, the rooms have been checked, and the day is ready to begin. Once everyone is in the kitchen, you could all make breakfast together. You cook the more difficult things, let an older one help with the cooking, another girl sets the table, another pours the milk or juice, etc. One of my children’s morning responsibilities is to unload the dishwasher as soon as they come into the kitchen. I can supervise the unloading since I’m in there making breakfast. If the dishwasher doesn’t need to be unloaded, or if they unload it before I’m finished cooking, they chip in and help finish the meal by cutting fruit, buttering toast, pouring glasses or milk, etc.
Of course, any job you assign a child to do is a job you should expect yourself to follow through on. If you’re not checking, then you’re communicating to them that you don’t really expect them to do the job right or to complete it in time.
I hope I’m not coming across as critical. I know how frustrated you feel, as I’ve been there before. So if I sound harsh, it’s because I’ve had to take some drastic measures in the past (such as taking away all my children’s belongings, making them wait to eat, and more). That may not be for everyone, I understand.
Have explained that the benefits of working together to accomplish something as a team far outweigh each person having to do something on their own? Perhaps you can draw on their bond as sisters and use it to get them to work together instead of apart, emphasizing the benefits: work goes faster, it’s more fun with someone there, you learn to help each other, and so on.
Thanks for the suggestions. And no, you did not come across critically! Just like a firm sister :). I’m going to mull this over and talk to my husband about the suggestions…..I’m wondering if doing the tidying at bedtime would be better for us.
Thanks so much to all of you! I do appreciate this forum.