I am starting CM method this year with my 4th grader after switching from Waldorf. I’m beginning to feel a bit overwhelmed. I got the apologia zoology one and this will be our first real science study. I also see all of this emphasis on nature study and nature notebook. Wouldn’t doing both overlap? I have the zoology notebook already and I just can’t imagine fitting this in with some kind of separate formal nature study as well. What does everyone else do?
I feel your angst:) I’ve just recently gone more totally CM and have yet to really incorporate nature study:( Feel like a CM failure! We use Apologia, too. I’ve owned Comstock’s Handbook of Nature Study. My plan for next year is to use this, along with ideas from Harmony Art Mom’s short nature challenges (once a week, using this book). We’ll go outside for 15 min. or so to observe, and then journal for about 15-20.
I have Apologia readings scheduled 2x/week, to complete one ch. every 2 weeks to complete the book in a year. Along with notebooking on Fridays. My friend does our experiments in co-op, so I’m off the hook there:) I hope it’s not too much…that’s our plan now:) Blessings, Gina
P.S. Of course, any of the Apologia assignments to go outside can count as your nature study that week:)
Thanks for the advice. I was planning to get the Anna Comstock book too. I’ve started to make my lesson plans and I just feel like I don’t have room for additional nature study. Btw-I just ordered the laid out weekly lesson plans for Apologia on Rainbow Resources. I’m hoping that will help the ease of planning too.
If you were to decide to do both, you may want to consider that it is not imperative that you do all of the projects in the book. You can skim through and decide which ones you want to do and then just keep up your reading in a timely manner and you’ll be fine. We’ve had times when we’ve just read, read, read, and then gone back and done a couple/few of the ideas in the book. We always do the activities that take 5 minutes or less right there on the spot and the others as we have time. Not what the author intended, but it works for us (and offers a little review since we are revisiting a topic).
As you know, these texts are written for the student that will only be doing that one book for science. Therefore, one idea would be to decide how much time you want to spend on science each week and then think about how much time nature study, plus any other sciency things or read alouds will take. Reduce your textbook science by that much at least. A 4th grader that does oral narrations and a selection of projects, plus maintains a journal from your nature study will have a fine bit of work to show for the year and it will be encouraging to him (or her!) to look back on.
So are you saying that nature study is considered superior to the apologia series? I’m completely new at this and science in general so I’m just wondering. I figured the hands on projects would take away the textbook feel but we haven’t delved into it just yet.
Well, I guess I am saying that. In my opinion, the Comstock book is fully sufficient for the elementary school years, along with nature study. Having said that, we do use the Apologia because my children saw them and wanted to do them. They have enjoyed them whether we’ve just read them or done some of the projects, but we are in no way getting through a book each year. I think that the cm philosophy of ‘liberal’ education is not well suited to these books unless we mix it up a bit. That does not set well with some moms, though, and they want to finish a book, hence my suggestion that if you need to back off from something, it could easily be the Apologia.
I haven’t seen the Zoology notebook, but if it is anything like the Botany one, then I think it includes what could be loosely referred to as nature study – though perhaps a bit more guided than what CM would prefer. I think if you’re feeling overwhelmed you would be fine with JUST the apologia program and the notebook – then as you feel comfortable you can add a bit more nature study.
I can see that I have likely contributed to a level of confusion for you because there are differing opinions. I apologize, please forgive me!! The very best thing to do is pray about it and get your husband’s counsel; then you are sure to do just the right thing in this subject, and all others as well.
Cindy – I DO think that you’re probably right in saying that Comstock’s book is fully sufficient for grammar school. If you can do it well and not slack off in doing it (use the Outdoor Hour website for help) it would be a great science education. My perspective is that I’m not good at doing things that aren’t laid out in a specific order in a book… so Apologia is wonderful for me because we can read and I don’t feel like they are lacking in science if all we do is read the book, even if we don’t do any projects or any nature study. I know it’s not a complete CM education and I know it would be FAR superior if we did nature study, but unlike Charlotte – I am a HUGE baby when it comes to being outdoors in cold weather (anything below 30 – which is like FIVE months of the year in NE). I also really need structure or I skip things, so when I feel overwhelmed the things that go are the things like Comstock. I say decide which are your must have subjects – all those things you rate number 1 and start out the year doing those, then ADD the things that are a number 2 and number 3 as the year goes on. That works better for me, than starting out the year doing eVERYTHING and then feeling like a failure because I can’t get it all done. baby steps. But you could easily do the opposite – start with nature study/comstock and then add bits and pieces of apologia as you have time. Just don’t stress! That’s no fun for you OR the kids.
I appreciate all of the responses so no worry about confusion. Actually I really relate to what Rebekah is saying. One of the reasons I have switched from Waldorf is because as she said I really need more of a structure. Otherwise I feel overwhelmed or I just don’t do what needs to be done. The structure of Apologia is easier for me to implement into my lesson plans for now. I also went from being waldorf purist so to speak so I’m trying to avoid getting into a CM purist mode as well. Of course I know this probably isn’t ideal but it is the difference between me being able to homeschool vs. not being able to tackle it and sending the kids to public school because I’m overwhelmed.
We do live in a rural area so I’m thinking we already do a lot of unintentional nature study of sorts;)
Hey amypixie, we do the Apologia books for science. ds7 loves them! He is my oldest. I feel that it is all laid out for me and we can go deep into the subject. With the future release of two more books, the series will be complete.
Because of summer, we are studying insects in the later part of Zoo 1. We skipped to chapt. 9. We’ll do the first part on birds in the Spring next year. We’ll do the rest of zoo 2 on swimming creatures this winter since we don’t live by the ocean and can’t do anything hands on with it. So, you have the flexibility to skip around in these books based on the topics of interest. Fulbright states this in the beginning of the book. Do what works best for your family. While on said topic, we also pick up extra living books from the library to read at bedtime or storytime. If I find a reader on insects at ds7 reading level, I throw that one in for him to read on his own. Another example is audiobooks. I picked up the audiobook of The Cricket in Times Square from the library. The kids loved it, and they listened while in the kitchen eating or cleaning up.
I did buy the Comstock book and I like it, but it is used as a spontanious supplement. One day we walked outside and saw many different mushrooms had sprung up. So, we did a nature study on mushrooms that day. I read out of the Comstock book so we knew what to look for. We went outside to observe and touch. We came inside to draw in our nature notebooks. This all took much longer than an Apologia science lesson, but we do it only a few times per month. Another time, we learned about groundhogs after spotting one in the yard. Then we drew it in our nature notebooks. Same thing with salamanders and toads. You get the idea. You have to decide the best way for your family. You may have to try a few things until you find what works for your family and what does not.