Ap.Fullbright or 106 Days?

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  • July 14, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    PioneerHomeschoolGrandma
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    Easing into science ages 12 and 14. I don’t want to start them in the older Apologia. This year is a year of total enjoyment of science and nature.

    Apologia Fullbright books, which one? astron.,zoo, plants, swimming creatures,they don’t like human anatomy but “I” think it is necessary to learn?, my sister in law has one of the books I think I could borrow. Everyone says they are like living books OR?
    106 Days of Creation? & Considering God’s Creation which I have
    and getting some scientist biography living books
    My one daughter really wants to learn about astronomy and not sure about the other. I think for her flowers but not sure.  We  will be doing Module 1 & 2 this year.  We live 5min. from the ocean and we are in the process of buying an ocean kayak to go ocean fishing just out of the mouth of the river 5min. from here.

    Trying to figure out how I can interweave things.

    For Nature Study we will do what they enjoy to draw them in and get the Hours in the Out of Doors with my Edwardian Lady Journal book.  They enjoy Butterflies, Birds and Flowers.

    Thank you!

    Cyndi

    July 14, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    Tristan
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    If you’re that close to the ocean then I would do Apologia’s Zoology 2 – Swimming Creatures!  It’s too good an opportunity to pass up.

    July 14, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    suzukimom
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    That would be my recommendation… although doing what the kdis want (at your stage) is a good choice too.

    However, I understand the Astronomy from Apologia is often considered the easiest of them…..

    July 15, 2011 at 2:17 am
    Rachel White
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    IMO, I think 106 Days… will be too juvenile. The Young Explorers Apologia is generally recommended for “gr. 1-6”, except for the Human Anatomy which extends to gr. 7.

    For astronomy, the Fulbright is going to be too easy, as it is on a lower elementary level. I’d recommend Signs and Seasons from Classical Astronomy:http://www.classicalastronomy.com/

    Those from Christian Kids Explore Series appropriate for yours’ ages:

    Christian Kids Explore Physics-gr. 4-8

    Christian Kids Explore Chemistry– gr. 4-8

    Also from Masterbooks there is:

    Wonders of Creation Series, GR. 6+ :http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/products-by-keyword.aspx?keyword=wonders-creation (my son likes these, too)

    Body of Evidence on DVD’s, AGES 12+; but nothing covering reproduction it seems:http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Body-of-Evidence-8-DVDBook-Combo,6836,241.aspx“

    The Exploring Series, is more workbookish, gr. 5+:http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Exploring-Series-The,4992,263.aspx

    The G-d’s Design Series  from AIG is for gr. 1-8:

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Gods-Design-for-Science-Complete-Curriculum-Set,6506,153.aspx

    Building Blocks in Science 12+ http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Building-Blocks-in-Science,5578,241.aspx 

    and Building Blocks in Life Science  13+ http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/product/Building-Blocks-in-Life-Science,6855,440.aspxDon’t mean to offer any more confusion, just that there are other options for your dd’s ages.

    Rachel

    July 15, 2011 at 3:40 am
    Wings2fly
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    If you do the Zoo 2, there are many related ocean readers your kids could read for independent reading.  There is the Burgess Seashore book and Dolphin Adventure and Dolphin Treasure.  Also Holling’s Pagoo.  There is a book list to go with Zoo 2 on the Apologia yahoo group on one of their links.

    July 15, 2011 at 5:37 am
    PioneerHomeschoolGrandma
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    We saw a sample of the Fullbright books and my daughter didn’t like them. They are 12 & 14 and thought that they kind of talked down a bit. They didn’t draw their emotions into the book and it’s information like a living book is suppose to do. I guess I don’t see what so many see in them. Now…they loved Girl of the Limberlost and to learn in that manner. Fullbrights still seemed a bit textbooky to us.

    Cyndi

    July 15, 2011 at 5:42 am
    PioneerHomeschoolGrandma
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    I will try some of the living books mentioned such as Burgess Seashore hoping that it wouldn’t be to young either. They have an immature comprehension level since they have never done oral or written narrations but Fullbright you are right one, Rachel, were just to young. I’m so glad that they were able to see a sample of it.

    I will try to find samples of the living bks. and links above.

    Thank you

    Cyndi

    July 15, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Ladyofthehouse
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    Cyndi,

    Have you looked at Queenhomeschool’s Discovering Nature series yet? My children are pretty young yet so I haven’t used it but it is on my list for down the road :o) If you will follow the link below you will notice the two bottom books both say the can be used with junior high and one of them even high school. The two at the top are I believe elementary.

    I think you you can preview a sample of all of them.

    http://www.queenhomeschool.com/productpages/Discovering%20Nature%20Series/discoveringnatureseries2.html#Bessie

    Also, I know I mentioned before A Girl of the Limberlost and you said your girls had read it but Gene Stratton Porter has written a number of novels all with heavy nature emphasis. They might enjoy those as well :o)

    July 15, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Rachel White
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    There are living book selections for your dd’s ages from these authors:

    Wild Animals I Have Known by Ernest Thompson Seton

    Wild Animal Ways by Ernest Thompson Seton

    The Sciences by Edward S. Holden

    A Little Brother to the Bear by William J. Long

    Secrets of the Woods by William J. Long

    School of the Woods by William J. Long

    Great Inventors and Their Inventions by Frank P. Bachman

    Parables from Nature by Margaret S. Gatty

    Squirrels and Other Fur-Bearers by John Burroughs

    The Wonder Book of Chemistry by Jean Henri Fabre

    The Story Book of Science by Jean Henri Fabre

    The Secret of Everyday Things by Jean Henri Fabre

    Jean H. Fabre was a French Creationist naturalist

    Those above can be found here, to see the age recommendations and for a preview :http://www.yesterdaysclassics.com/catalog/displaycatalog.php?catalog=nature

    and probably for free in their entirety at mainlesson http://www.mainlesson.com/

    From SCM-Jack’s Insects-gr. 4-6-http://simplycharlottemason.com/books/jacks-insects/

    Selections of the best price from Queen HS:

    http://www.queenhomeschool.com/bookpage/bookframe.html

    Rachel

     

    July 15, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    PioneerHomeschoolGrandma
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    Rachel,

    I need to make my SCM order and trying to decide on 106 Days Creation & Hours in the Out of Doors

    I’m wondering if the Nature Study Handbook at Queen’s might be more appropriate because of the ages of my girls.

    I have the Edwardian book which is something for “us” to look at as examples but I need more.

    I have Anna Comstock’s book but for me the book is a little overwhelming with all of the lessons etc. I’m sure I could make it work but it would be nice to have something basic? I also need something like a Nature Journal that she can use that has questions to answer which she can use for writing,  activities to do, a place to put her dried flower, a place to sketch.

    I will check out the living books that you mentioned. I’m noticing that Sonya materials are mostly geared toward the younger set?

    Thanks

    Cyndi

     

    July 15, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    Rachel White
    Participant

    106 Days…is for elementary ages. Hours…is a parent resource that I think would benefit you more as a teaching for you to help you understand and/or implement nature study, if you haven’t done it in the past.

    I know it’s been shared already, but you can easily use Anne Comstock’s book by using the free and/or purchase materials at this blog:http://handbookofnaturestudy.blogspot.com/

    Start at the ‘Getting Started’ link and go from there.

    Personally, I think Queen’s Nature materials (not the Fabre books, the reading level is upper elementary through to HS) would be too young, also. On the site, they recommended for the same age span at 106 Days…; grades 1-6.

    A combination of:

     one of the more technical science book/curricula series ( any mentioned earlier in this post that are age appropriate), read together or independently with narrations.

    living books: read together and/or independently with narrations

    implementing nature study, at least 1x a week, but encouraging observation and using nature guides for identification anytime you’re outside. We like the Peterson First Guides.

    would provide a good year of science before getting more hard-core next year. You may want to find out what your state requires for your children’s education (if any) for graduation and, for your 14 yr. old, what direction she may be going in to determine what subjects you need to cover and in what order.

    Studying what you know they haven’t had yet would be the best use of this year, IMO. You mentioned astronomy and anatomy as not having been covered; that would be a good place to start. They can study their individual interests on their own (books you pick out for quality) while ya’ll are covering other things as a family.

    Does that make sense?

    Rachel

    July 15, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    PioneerHomeschoolGrandma
    Participant

    Okay, I put this in my favorites. Wouldn’t it be neat if they had teaching moments, observation questions, place to write, sketch, activities, for 12 to adult???

    Where oh…where.

    Thank you so much Rachel.

    The girls still like to read Laura Ingall books still and some of the Nature living books looked really good and  I thought about at Queen’s. My 14yr.old comprehension isn’t the greatest but she still didn’t like Fullbright.

    Now I’m wondering about Out of Doors Handbook as a Teacher Resource? I know what you said about Anna Comstock book but as I said it is a little overwhelming for me. Sonya recommended My Nature Journal on Amazon.

    I will pray about this decision before I make my order at SCM. I don’t like decisions.

    I found something really neat by Rachel Carson A Sense of Wonder. Check it out. She has a GREAT passion for nature and write beautifully! Let me know what you think. It is at Amazon

    Cyndi

    July 15, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    laurap
    Participant

    We used a book by Felice Gerwitz an Jill Whitlock calle Creation Anatomy.  There are also others in the series for Astronomy, Geologyand Gen Science I think. It is actually just a guide and really a unit study…..there are reading lists included for K-12…..we did not use it as a unit stuy…..just as our science and skipped other stuff……

    Some of the suggested activities for Language Arts we did us because they were sort of written an oral narration ideas…..for example….

    “Use the Scripture 1 Cor. 12:12-27 as a basis for an oral presentation on the human body and the way the systems are interependent” (this is a suggested activity for graes 4-8)

    I have not seen the other books but it did address some things in the teaching outline like ‘evolutionist believe…….but (then gives a scripture reference) we believe …….

    For us this guide was a great spring board with lots of ideas……the samples online only show the younger grades activities I think but there are plenty of activities for all levels K-12 listed as options.

    July 15, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    Rachel White
    Participant

    Yes, Hours Out of Doors is a Teacher’s Resource and would be valuable for you. It would assist you in learning what CM said in regards to implementing nature study and help develop a mindset for you so you can then impart what you’ve learned to your dds.

    I agree with Sonya…My NAture Journal would be a great tool for your dds.

    Rachel

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