Anybody wanna talk high school plans?

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  • JennNC
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    So… my oldest is in high school next year. WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO DO??!!

    Ok. Panic moment over.

    Seriously though, though there are so many options. I love the SCM guide and follow it for most things but as a family we do not love the Famous Men series… I don’t know why. It just doesn’t click for us.

    I have looked at Notgrass and I’m thinking of going with that. I have looked at MFW. I have looked at Sonlight. I have researched MOH a little bit.

    Just wondering if anyone wanted to chat a bit about what you’re doing next year in the way of CM high school. 🙂

    Bookworm
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    Do you mostly  mean history plans?   How many history credits are you planning?  What kinds?  Where are you in the  history rotation?  I can tell you what we’re doing but it may not be very applicable to what you are doing.  What does your child think?  High school is a good time to let children have some input into curriculum choices . . .

    Richele Baburina
    Participant

    Hi Jenn,

    Like you, the Famous Men didn’t work for us (though I know of others that really like it).   We love the SCM history/geo/Bible  guides so much though and are simply exchanging that one title with something else.  if you tell me where you are in the rotation I may be able to give you some ideas to substitute with that one book as well.

    Richele

     

    missceegee
    Participant

    Richele, I’d love to see your substitutions for any modules for which you have them. The Famous Men series has been great for me, but has not been the favorite of the kiddos.

    Christie

    Hi Jenn

    I recommend the Notgrass history and their Government and Economics books we have used them with great success. I hasten to add we only used them for history credit and not the Bible and Literature credits they said you could have…we did other things for that – but the history is great. We supplemented with other history books like Paul Johnson’s History of the US and biographies and things like that but my daughters enjoy history so that was why we did that. We chose our literature and poetry and I had an Abeka textbook which was great for short stories, we did not use it as a textbook or do any of the exercises we just did the reading of the stories and narrated or wrote essays. We used Teaching Textbooks and MUS for math and MUS Stewwardship – Geography came from the HEO book suggestions and the history studies, plus board games. Art we used CM approach and for practical art we used Artistic Pursuits. We used the essay course from Epi Kardia and have the Research Paper course from them to use as well. We have used Tell Me More and now Rosetta Stone plus various books for German and for music we have studied composers, been to the symphony and watched numerous dvds of ballet, opera, musicals, and great classical works. We have done various things for PE mostly equestrian, gym, and swimming. Hope that gives you some ideas. Linda

    Richele Baburina
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    Christie, I haven’t gone through all the modules yet but I love history and SCM’s Modules.  For example, in Module 3 we’ll substitute the Famous Men of Rome for A Children’s Plutarch:  Tales of the Romans – I think this is a great read no matter what the age.

    Jr. High years could use Mary MacGregor’s The Story of Rome or Plutarch’s Roman Lives.

    Highschool could use Charles Morris’ Historical Tales:  Roman or selections from Plutarch’s Roman Lives as well. 

    Keeping in mind that you can tell pretty early on if a book is or isn’t working for your student so none of those are set in stone.  -R

    Susan
    Member

    For 9th grade (last year) we used My Father’s World Ancient History & Literature which covers Bible, history & literature.  I was very pleased with how our year went.  You can take a look at samples on their website http://www.mfwbooks.com/category/M50/50.  We also used Apologia Biology, Math-U-See Algebra I & 1 semester of Logic using the The Fallacy Detective & The Thinking Toobox.  We followed the SCM schedule for music study, picture study, and poetry.  I chose my own songs for hymn study. 

    Don’t be afraid of high school.  Last year was our first year and it wasn’t as scary as I thought it would be.  This year I’ll have two in high school.  We will be adding foreign language this year & health for my 10th grader.  I like using MFW because I’m one of those people that need everything planned out and it’s written for the student to do independently.  But it can also be flexible where you need it to be. 

    Hope this helps!

    Susan

     

    Oops I forgot to put in science, we used Apologia and for biology we used Biology A Search for Order in Complexity by Christian Liberty Press.

    JennNC
    Participant

    Hi Ladies,

    Thanks for being willing to share some of your thoughts and plans about high school. Yes bookworm I did mean history; I should have been more clear about that part! Sorry if it was confusing. Next year we will be doing history from the Civil War to the present.

    I have heard several people mention that they’ve used MFW for high school and really enjoyed it. It looks great — I am hesitant to use it because I so much enjoy having all my kids studying the same things and I hate to let go of that any earlier than I have to, I guess. I know I can’t hold on to them forever. But maybe for another year or two? 🙂

    I have to admit Susan that I am a little intimidated by the thought of high school next year. If MFW made it doable for you then maybe I should look at it again!

    Linda do you think that the Notgrass Gov’t and Econ books could be successfully used by a 9th grader? He is very advanced academically, but I have heard people say that those courses should be reserved for the last year or two before graduation and adulthood.

    Thanks again everyone… I’ll be looking up several of the books you mentioned.

    Jenn, I think any of the Notgrass books could be done in any order for High School, they are beautifully written and I see no reason why your 9th grader could not cope with the Government and Economics, my daughters would have been able to do it and if your son is advanced he would have no problem. Linda

    Susan
    Member

    I have heard several people mention that they’ve used MFW for high school and really enjoyed it. It looks great — I am hesitant to use it because I so much enjoy having all my kids studying the same things and I hate to let go of that any earlier than I have to, I guess. I know I can’t hold on to them forever. But maybe for another year or two? 🙂

     

    Jenn,

    I know exactly what you mean.  I’ve taught my three children together for years and the thought of separating them was sad.  We still do our fine arts together like picture study & music study and we still do a morning read-aloud at the breakfast table.  So it wasn’t so bad after all.  Now I’ll have the two high schoolers working independently & a 7th grader doing MFW Rome to the Reformation.  I guess I feel like when they reach high school level it’s kind of tough to combine with a younger one.  I’m sure, though, there are many on this forum who’ve done it successfully.   MFW is a fit for our family so it works for us.  Hope you find peace about what to do.

    Blessings,

    Susan

     

    JennNC
    Participant

    Ok Linda, I think I’ll see if I can get my hands on a copy of the Notgrass books to peruse, they might provide a good way to loosely tie what he is studying to our more broad family study of American history.

    Susan are you on the MFW board? I used to be, years ago. We used most of the 5 year cycle and enjoyed it very much. But toward the end of the cycle I felt that the emphasis in the curriculum began to shift away from CM-style learning. Maybe that was just me. Do you feel that their high school courses are CM-style?

    Bookworm
    Participant

    We’ve done a variety of things–I involve my sons in planning a lot at this age, and if their plans seem reasonable, I think it’s good to work with them where possible!  We have just chosen a few really good books, ones we found here or at AO or recommended by someone or on blogs & periodicals I read.  My two high school age sons have some interesting perspectives so my oldest is designing a “libertarian American history” course for the rest of his American history credit.  He has chosen several books from some lists I’ve found. I’ll also be assigning him a big research paper to do in history.  He’ll need to do his own research and produce a paper arguing a thesis.   Last year he worked on thinking skills, using a Great Documents book and part of Critical Thinking’s American history series, and using them to do essays.  He hadn’t yet read through all of some of the typical books we use for history, so he read one or two Guerber books bolstered with lots of biographies, other books, and special interest books, since I don’t think Guerber alone to be enough for high school credit.  My next son used a Teaching Company video course–college lectures put on video–plus several additional books to cover the Middle Ages.  This year he is reading a stack of biographies and using the second book in the Notgrass World History course.  We aren’t doing the rest–the literature.  Just the history book. 

    Susan
    Member

    Susan are you on the MFW board? I used to be, years ago. We used most of the 5 year cycle and enjoyed it very much. But toward the end of the cycle I felt that the emphasis in the curriculum began to shift away from CM-style learning. Maybe that was just me. Do you feel that their high school courses are CM-style?

     

    I am on the MFW board.  It’s been a great help.  As far as CM-style for high school…not completely.  I feel it’s a mix of styles-tradtional, classical & CM.  The books are not dry like textbooks.  Notgrass history is written in a more conversational style to me (used for 9th & 10th grade).  They read classics-most of which are listed on the SCM guide.  They also do a time-line.  But it’s different from the 5-year cycle in that it’s written to the student.  I do some things with my child and I do make sure he’s on track but for the most part he knows what he needs to do & how to do it.  I may be rambling here–can’t seem to get my thoughts together.  But I hope this helps alittle.

    Blessings,

    Susan

    JennNC
    Participant

    Susan thanks very much for being willing to go into detail for me… I will have look at MFW again. Bookworm I’m intrigued by your idea about letting the child help in the decision making process. I think my ds is a responsible enough kid that something like that just might work. Going to mull that one over a bit. Thanks, everyone. 🙂

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